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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:48 PM Feb 2016

Debate consensus.. Christie "ripped open Rubio's soft underbelly"

Not long after the conclusion of the GOP debate in New Hampshire, Michael Steele, a former chair of the Republican Party, was sitting in a booth at JD's Tavern in Manchester, a favorite watering hole for journalists, pundits, and political tourists, and he was shaking his head. A reporter had told him that she had just heard from Marco Rubio's camp. The once-surging presidential candidate had two hours earlier become the goat of the night, after he robotically repeated talking points in response to Chris Christie's fierce attack that junior senator from Florida was nothing but an inexperienced empty-suit legislator whose best asset was his ability to deliver memorized rhetorical flourishes—that is, to robotically repeat talking points.

Responding to Christie—and proving his assailant's point—Rubio had multiple times recited a prepared line in which he slammed President Barack Obama for purposefully ruining the United States. This was Rubio's emperor-has-no-clothes moment. And after the debate, he dared not enter the spin room to explain his broken-record impersonation. But his advisers, up until now one of the most savvy teams on the GOP side, quickly developed their post-debate spin. They were telling reporters that the debate demonstrated that Rubio was so committed to criticizing Obama that he would seize every opportunity to do so. At the bar, when Steele heard this, he laughed sadly. "No, no, no," he said. "It was a major blunder."

That's how most of the professionals saw it. Even on Fox News, which had been Rubio-friendly turf, his screw-up was the headline of the night. Like a wolf, Christie had pounced and ripped apart Rubio's soft underbelly. (Christie had been practicing this assault earlier in the day.) And the politerati watched in amazement at Rubio's implosion (that word seemed to be the consensus description in the swanky Google-sponsored media filing center at the debate). Now there's no telling how New Hampshire voters—especially those still-undecided, late-breaking voters—will respond to this. They're a volatile and fickle bunch, as likely to be swayed by a non-controversial moment (say Ted Cruz speaking about his half-sister's death from an overdose) as an exchange deemed uber-significant by the press crowd. Yet it's hard within the media bubble not to see Rubio's brain freeze as a helluva plot development.

Candidates do rise and fall as media creatures. Rubio placed third in Iowa, and became the story of the week, as political journalists focused on him as the new break-out candidate. At a town hall meeting in Derry on Friday, his supporters marveled at the large number of camera crews trailing the Florida senator. The presence of this horde gave the Rubio backers the feeling that their man Marco did indeed have momentum. And in the political-media echo chamber, this has a self-reinforcing aspect: candidate dubbed hot by the media receives more media attention and the chance to become hotter. The narrative was Rubio gaining an edge in the so-called establishment lane of the race and being in the position to pull away from Jeb Bush, John Kasich, and Chris Christie. (During that appearance, Rubio recited his well-polished stump speech, which included the riff about Obama that he would repeat four times at the debate.)

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Post "Marcobot," the media tale is quite different. Is Rubio ready? Is there any there there? Can this guy think on his feet? Does he have the smarts to be president? He can expect the press to keep a watchful eye on his words and note his penchant for repeating a series of well-honed lines. (Which is, after all, what a stump speech is.) What this means is that Rubio's best asset could turn into a liability. Of all the candidates, he is the smoothest.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/can-marco-rubio-reboot-after-robot-gaffe

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Debate consensus.. Christie "ripped open Rubio's soft underbelly" (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2016 OP
My question is what would make someone repeat a totally out of place line so many times malaise Feb 2016 #1
Nah, not drugs, something that fucks up the brain even worse rufus dog Feb 2016 #3
"just a pretty boy stupid mother fucker" Stinky The Clown Feb 2016 #4
That takes breath-taking arrogance but I guess malaise Feb 2016 #9
He's an empty suit. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #6
Rubio must have a pull cord hanging out of his back TheCowsCameHome Feb 2016 #2
Christie Found The Weakling On The Playground.... Laxman Feb 2016 #5
Christy baited the hook mercuryblues Feb 2016 #7
Rubio is a lazy guy. It's amazing he was motivated enough to memorize one line. Vinca Feb 2016 #8
Tweety tore him a new one on MTP malaise Feb 2016 #10
I missed that for some reason. Vinca Feb 2016 #11
I'm watching the repeat now malaise Feb 2016 #12

malaise

(269,172 posts)
1. My question is what would make someone repeat a totally out of place line so many times
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 01:57 PM
Feb 2016

Is he on some medication? Reminds me of the grabbing of the water bottle in his SOTU response.
What an idiot amateur.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
3. Nah, not drugs, something that fucks up the brain even worse
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:13 PM
Feb 2016

Pure naked ambition. You take a guy that isn't all that bright to begin with and groom him to say what is required. It works to get him elected in Florida, we saw the crack in his ability in the response to the Prsident. A bit of a reset, and he tries to step back up again. And he cracks again.

Don't over think it, he is just a pretty boy stupid mother fucker.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
4. "just a pretty boy stupid mother fucker"
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:18 PM
Feb 2016

The PERFECT description.

Add hair plugs and high heel shoes and we start to form a complete image.

malaise

(269,172 posts)
9. That takes breath-taking arrogance but I guess
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:18 PM
Feb 2016

even the groomers should be able to objectively know that mediocrity is still mediocrity - Rubio a quintessential lightweight on steroids wound up way too tight - seriously.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
2. Rubio must have a pull cord hanging out of his back
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:06 PM
Feb 2016

How else can he be that much of a talking puppet?

Absolutely unreal.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
5. Christie Found The Weakling On The Playground....
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:20 PM
Feb 2016

and he took his lunch money and gave him a wedgie. It's what bullies do. Rubio was always a lightweight. Christie just waited for his chance to beat him up in front of everyone else. The rest of the Republican field is too obsessed with pandering and too cowardly to engage in that kind of behavior. Christie is a practiced schoolyard bully and gave them a great display of his time worn tactics. Thing is, if any of these idiots did their homework on Christie and had an ounce of courage they could pummel him with his record. That whole debate was nothing more than a shameless display of the different shades of incompetence and lack of character.

mercuryblues

(14,539 posts)
7. Christy baited the hook
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 02:47 PM
Feb 2016

reeled him in. Then splayed him like a fish and deep fried him. The best part is that the republicans love Christy because he holds no punches. My guess he is getting hauled in to get Reinced off.

Vinca

(50,304 posts)
11. I missed that for some reason.
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 03:30 PM
Feb 2016

It must have been Tweety. He's such an annoying character I change the channel the second he comes on. LOL.

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