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"Pro-Black Is NOT Anti-White" (Original Post) kpete Feb 2016 OP
so pro all lives matter Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #1
It's dismissive gollygee Feb 2016 #4
White people generally don't define themselves as white ShrimpPoboy Feb 2016 #2
Perfectly stated. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #3
the "settler fantasy" actually tries to erase histories--you're supposed to just be a race, MisterP Feb 2016 #10
Do white people alive today bear responsibility for those past atrocities? oberliner Feb 2016 #5
Two things gollygee Feb 2016 #6
It was meant as a question for reflection oberliner Feb 2016 #7
The only way to deal with it is to actually deal with it... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #8
A lot of that is happening oberliner Feb 2016 #9

ShrimpPoboy

(301 posts)
2. White people generally don't define themselves as white
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:30 AM
Feb 2016

or celebrate it, unless the purpose is to put down others. We get to define ourselves as cajun, German, irish, etc. We celebrate those differences and have groups promoting our respective cultures.

We stole that history from our black countrymen. Understanding why they want their own space to promote the culture and sense of community they've built here is the least we can do.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. the "settler fantasy" actually tries to erase histories--you're supposed to just be a race,
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 03:13 PM
Feb 2016

not have any ancestry, because bringing history into the equation reveals the fact that the strictly-enforced boundaries are constantly being crossed

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. Do white people alive today bear responsibility for those past atrocities?
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 10:55 AM
Feb 2016

I think that is an important question to reflect on.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
6. Two things
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:11 AM
Feb 2016

1. Did you read the list? A lot of those things were done by people alive today.

2. The point is that no one intends to do stuff like that. Anti-black people did those things, but no one who is pro-black has plans to do anything like that to white people and therefore they are not anti-white.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. It was meant as a question for reflection
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:16 AM
Feb 2016

Yes, a lot of those things were done by people alive today. But my question specifically addresses the unspeakable atrocities specifically connected to slavery.

I do get what the point is - and I am not taking issue with it, per se.

I just think that the historical legacy in the US is something that will haunt its people seemingly forever. What is the best way to deal with that legacy today?

Wounded Bear

(58,675 posts)
8. The only way to deal with it is to actually deal with it...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

stop bleaching all of the shit stains out of history. Listen to Santayana and actually teach real history. Teach what really happened, and how slaves were actually treated, and how free blacks-who have existed in our country since the earliest days, by the way-have been treated over the years.

The message copied in the OP addresses a fear that many white supremacists have, or at least use to motivate their supporters. They fear that what they have been doing to others will be done to them. It's a fear common to most all bullies.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. A lot of that is happening
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:31 AM
Feb 2016

Certainly at the college level - and increasingly at the high school level as well.

I think a lot of ordinary whites (not white supremacists) don't really understand what the appropriate response is.

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