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http://freakoutnation.com/2016/02/company-paying-high-wages-and-benefits-just-crushed-wal-mart-in-profitability/Then, too, I knew they exported a large number of our factories to China, because I worked in international business, at the time. Get this, China Labor Watch investigated five Walmart supplier factories and found a total of 10,000 workers suffered serious rights abuses....
Walmart and Amazon pinch pennies and squeeze people, but they are not the only games in town. My daughter and I have a monthly mother/daughter tradition at Costco. We can each do our shopping, while visiting and indulging in interesting food and beverage samples along the way. I like Costco because they take care of their people, while still offering good deals.
Costco pays its employees a living wage, starting at $11.50 per hour and averaging $21 per hour, plus overtime and company-sponsored health insurance. Costcos CEO and president Craig Jelinek speaks about the economy:
Warpy
(111,291 posts)I have never seen the same person twice at Wally's (don't look at me like that, I need cheap generics nobody else has) with the exception of one pharmacist who's been there for about eight months. She's looking frazzled, so she might be ready to walk.
Paying low wages and limiting advancement are false economies since Wally's has to pay enormous costs every time an employee quits and a new hire has to be trained. Eliminating this expense by paying well and treating their employees like colleagues has saved Costco this huge cost and IMO, that's what has made it so much more profitable.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)My choices are as follows: local (what I buy when it is humanly possible; wasn't always this way, but in the last year especially I've decided to go without even a bit more just to avoid WM and/or Meijer-type stores), Wal-Mart, Meijer, and one of the alternate-branded Piggly Wiggly's (goes by various names in various regions, as I understand it?). That's my "roughly 20 minute drive radius" choices.
IOW, expensive, trash, trash, or kind-of-expensive-kind-of-okay. Not a great choice, all things considered. It's not like they'd have to pay as much either; $11/hr is darn near a corporate wage around here (and is, in fact, better than all but one of our local manufacturers that I am aware of).
MichMan
(11,940 posts)Not sure why you have an issue with Meijer. Their employees are union.
I shop there whenever possible. The closest Costco is an hour away
Shandris
(3,447 posts)...a decade or so ago (or has it been two...I can't remember anymore!). I also know a very conservative member of my family worked there once and while she never complained about them (and to be perfectly fair, she enjoyed working there for the most part), I don't ever recall her mentioning the 'dreaded U-word'.
So either something has changed (which I did not know), or maybe there's a state by state thing? I won't profess to have followed the history of it closely; I pretty much made my judgement early on and never looked back. I'll have to look at them again and find out though, that WOULD make life a bit easier.
Thanks for the info!
MichMan
(11,940 posts)I live in Michigan (Meijer home state) where there is one or more in almost every populated area. Every one I have seen around here is unionized. Might not be true in every state etc.
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)It's 30 miles farther than Sam's Club for us but a far more pleasant experience. $2.99 for a package of 4 LED bulbs this month--stock up.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Thanks for the heads up.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 26, 2016, 05:48 PM - Edit history (1)
getting four bulbs for $11, on a half-off sale.
Ace charges too much for their LEDs, but Walmart and ACE are the only game in town unless I want to make a long trip.
I wish we had a Costco near me. I can't afford to drive to the closest one...sixty miles away. Round trip 120...that does not offset the savings.
I'd be shopping there all the time if it was close to me.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)ISTR an article about employee-owned companies that mentioned them
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)customers can join Ace, as a coop, I think. I have the paperwork but haven't filled it out yet. And you get money back at the end of the year (don't know if there is a waiting period...with my electric coop it was like 15 years, but I do get a check from them every year now)...but yes, it may well be employee owned. I never heard that before. I'm heading there now. I'll have to ask them.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)And yes they are employee owned!
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I live in probably the most walkable neighborhood in Las Vegas, which by any standards is a normal semi-suburban neighborhood. But there's two grocery stores, three casinos, two gyms, a bar, five restaurants, a dry cleaner, a Starbucks, a couple of convenience stores, and the best comic book store in town -- plus a medical marijuana dispensary just opened up. All this within walking distance, which is AMAZING for Las Vegas.
Sadly, now I have to spend ten minutes driving to my local Mega-Despot.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I live in an apartment so I'm limited on how much bulk buying I can do but I still manage to spend a couple of hundred a month on stuff that is necessary. I'm 55 years old and I've never stepped foot into a Wal-mart.
Rex
(65,616 posts)So I feel no sadness when I see one of these trickle down stores go out of business. My hope is those unemployed find work at a place that will treat them like humans.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)People who have done somewhere between good to great in the past twenty years,
newthinking
(3,982 posts)Even though they built their kingdom on poverty, they could halt their slump and boom their business if they truly changed their policies and model to one that is similar, But they won't because when people are that greedy and immoral they just can't "get it". Making money while greatly benefiting community and their employees is just not interesting to them: Even if they get richer doing it.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)the closest Costco is 1 1/2 hours away...we shop at Costco...in my experience, Wally's prices are not especially low...some are, some are not...be very careful if you shop at Wally's...
spinbaby
(15,090 posts)I used to go to Walmart a lot because I drove an elderly relative who shopped there. I found the place to be badly stocked, limited in brands, and not particularly well priced. The yogurt I buy regularly was vey high priced in slightly different packaging than the other stores. Often, Walmart had the same product in smaller packaging to make it look like a deal.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)that Costco just doesn't carry everything that I need to buy and I'm too poor to not ever go to Walmart. Also, some people don't have a Costco anywhere near them. I usually buy produce at Fiesta and frozen food at Kroger. I'm not sure how they are on pay and benefits.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Check one out if you've got one near you. I'm a convert.
Thav
(946 posts)And recently the have made moves to be more healthy, no artificial colors in their private label stuff.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)1939
(1,683 posts)Costco is profitable enough to pay higher wages because they have a limited stock (in terms of variety not volume). If Costco tried to stock the variety of items you find in a Walmart Super Store, it wouldn't be as profitable per dollar of sale (and wopuldn't have the margin to support the higher wages).
GoldenMean
(49 posts)But they don't charge $55 a year to just get in the door.
Costco makes $2.4 billion a year in membership fees.
I shop at both Walmart and Costco because I have to make every penny count
Sorry, if I had more money I could be more selective in where I spend money.
Walmart did just raise their wages from $9 to $10, so they are feeling the Bern
SunSeeker
(51,576 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Fine if you have a car. Transit-dependent? Not so much.
SunSeeker
(51,576 posts)Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I understand one can save money there, but a lot of people buy just what they need to get by every month, and can't afford to "stock up".
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)there is one inside the loop.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)See what I mean?
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Just in Houston there is one close to inner city. There is also one on I-10 and Bunker Hill, one in Sugarland, one in Katy and one at Willowbrook
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Most folks wouldn't be near it.
P.S. Many Houstonians, especially the UT grads among them, refer to the Loop as the "Aggie evacuation route".
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)I went to google maps and it is 15 miles from on I-10 from the West Loop to the East Loop. Or are you talking about the Beltway.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Especially without a car. I understand Houston is making some strides in transit, now that Bug Man DeLay is not there to lobby against projects in his own district (!!), but it'll take a while to get even where Dallas is today.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)it's on the bus route. And buses in Houston have bike racks now. And it isn't really close to the loop either, it's about 2 or 3 miles from the West Loop.
TexasBushwhacker
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GoldenMean
(49 posts)Three lb. roasted whole chicken for $4.99
Costco loses $40 million a year selling them at this price
Whenever we go we make sure we get one.
You can't beat their $1.50 Kosher dogs either
I once as a joke took my wife out to dinner at Costco and and just walked around eating the free samples.
Z_California
(650 posts)My son has worked at Costco for four years. They are a great employer!
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Good enough to have on its own, so full of flavor. Also the french onion soup, canned tuna/salmon, personal hygiene products like deodorant, razors, and shampoo, socks, undershorts, gym shoes, coffee beans ... No end to the great deals to be had.
Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Moist delicious affordable devil.
Even if I have eaten nothing but chicken for a week, I always buy one as I am getting ready to head for the check out because they are that good.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)I shop at a gigantic Costco in Hillsboro OR and the employees all seem quite happy to be working there. If I was younger I'd put in an application myself.
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)I wonder how that works i states where herb is legalized? Anyway I wish they would stop that practice.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)My daughter has been there several months, and started at about the same wage listed above.
They actually have great prices, also. They basically sell their own store brand, and the quality is good! The only thing that lags is the produce, but with what you save, you can go to Kroger and get decent produce.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Hence the similarities, including the crappy produce.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)We have a grocery store here in Houston called Fiesta. It somewhat caters to the Hispanic community and has really good prices on produce and always has really good avocados. They are cheap on everything that Hispanic people buy - tomatoes, peppers, onions, beans, bananas, etc.
But Krogers has really good prices on frozen foods, particularly frozen vegetables. $1 for the 16 oz packages of frozen broccoli, brussels sprouts, okra and others.
Nobel_Twaddle_III
(323 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)🙆
moondust
(19,993 posts)how many multibillionaire megalomaniacs do they have on board? Huh? That's the real measure of laissez-faire success in laissez-faire 'Murca.
Populist_Prole
(5,364 posts)OK, we really can laugh...
My father is a hard-ass TP conservative. He's befuddled by cognitive dissonance though:
There's a Costco really close to him, and a Walmart just a bit farther. He really likes Costco as a store, and throws them a ton of business. But he always grouses "But they're kinda' left wing". He doesn't like Walmart except to buy hunting/fishing licenses...but he always comes to their defense whenever complaints are aired about their employee relations. He likes their business model but he dislikes the store.
Now THAT is a working definition of a true ideologue.
moondust
(19,993 posts)I sometimes find myself noting which companies tend to screw their workers and engage in other objectionable practices and I tend to steer clear of them when there's an alternative. Like a lot of other people, I never buy products like Brawny paper towels that I know are made by companies owned by the Koch brothers.
Go ahead, call me an ideologue!