Trump speaks the truth re: punishing women for abortion.

[CincyDem]

As I watch the kerfuffle of the last 48 hours, I don't understand why The Donald would "walk back" his comments to Chris Matthews about punishing women who exercise a personal choice about their health and/or bodies.

Donald is the republican who actually SAYS what most republicans actually think. He really is the "truth teller" of the right. And what he said about punishment - it's in their heart day in and day out. I'm surprised The Donald didn't immediately turn to the camera a la Frank Underwood and say, in his best Chris Rock voice "Yeah - I said it".

If you draw a straight line from Roe v. Wade to today's clinic regulations, protests, provider murders (by protesters),etc - the only logical end point is a full out ban and prison terms ("10 years? What?&quot for the woman who has made a choice.

WTF is wrong with these people? That's where we heading with the republican party and the best way to change that course - wash republicans out of the Senate, the House, the Governor's mansions, the state houses...these guys are tailban in suits and ties. Shame on anyone who claims to be a democrat but can't get off their ass and vote it.

Sorry. Just had to vent somewhere. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Flyingbird5066]

1. Donald trump is a pro choicer posing as pro life

The irony is that trump said what every repub candidate except for trump believes.

[MH1]

4. Donald Trump is a pro-DonaldTrumper posing as whatever he thinks will work. nt.

[MoonchildCA]

8. Exactly! Which is why he had no idea how to answer the question,

...or how he was "supposed" to think. But the fact that he is willing to feign his "pro-life," abortion-is-murder stance, is almost more evil than if he actually believed it.

[knightmaar]

19. Not really. Most anti-choicers don't have an answer either

It's how you stop them in their tracks:

"So how should a woman be punished for having an illegal abortion?"

[crickets]

[MoonchildCA]

24. Yeah well, some I'm sure.

Many will say punish the provider. I've heard them.
I still stand by my statement that Trum is an anti-choicer for political expediency only, and has never even considered a nuanced answer, like so many of his "positions."

[lark]

25. There's only one belief that matters to Donald.

His belief in getting the best of any deal for himself and screwing everyone else. He's proud of 4 bankruptcies, he got richer. He never mentions the 1,000's of people who lost their jobs while he ducked out on his responsibilities because he never thinks of them. Nobody matters to him but himself and how someone would make him look better, richer, etc. That's why he's so scary. He has no moral compass and will do anything, anything, that makes him richer or more powerful and screw everyone else.

[Renew Deal]

2. They say the woman is the victim of an illegal abortion. This is wrong.

She is the victim of republican policy. If they believe what they say, then she is a criminal and so is the facilitator. Their condemnations are based on hypocrisy and lies.

[riversedge]

3. Wendy Davis was on Chris Hayes last night. She made the case that punishment is what is

happening to women when severe restrictions get placed on them--more and more each month as more and more Legislatures play Doctor--practice medicine--in RED states. She said yes it is punishment--the right word. Perhaps there is a transcript someplace. Thanks for your post.

[Kber]

5. Spot on!

Any one who pretends otherwise is lying.

[global1]

6. Donald Exposing This Might Be A Blessing In Disguise.....

Repugs have been and are pushing to make abortion illegal. So if they get their way - how would that be enforced?

Donald just perhaps stated the obvious and took things to the logical/illogical conclusion.

However, this was one of those things that is the deep understory of the Repugs push. This was not supposed to be exposed - because it would get the People to start thinking about the real implications of overturning Roe v Wade. 'Really - punishing women for having an abortion. That's crazy.'

Now that this has been exposed - all the Repugs are walking it back. No - that's not what we mean. That's not what we intended.

Well Donald let the cat out of the bag and started the masses to really think about what this is all about.

This might be the difference necessary to prevent overturning Roe v Wade.

This is just my humble opinion of this.

Bottom line Trump has exposed the Repug Party for what they really are. Their stands on women, immigration, money in politics, buying/rigging elections,etc - overall their 'blatant hypocrisy'. When this is all over and they successfully Dump Trump and rig the election for the 1% - those Repug supporters that have been brainwashed into thinking they are the Grand Ole Party will really get to see them for what they really are about.

We might need to Thank Trump for that contribution. Maybe he will truly 'Make America Great Again' and we can take back our democracy for WE THE PEOPLE.

[AtheistCrusader]

13. Yeah, he's just crass enough to say what they are all thinking.

If you want t outlaw abortion, you want to punish women for having them. You can't have one without the other.

They don't like to say it out loud though.

[PearliePoo2]

7. "these guys are taliban in suits and ties."

Yes, absolutely they are.
And bible-thumping, sleazebag Cruz is one of the worst.
It's a theocracy they want, complete with stonings and hangings in the town square.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Yet again men telling women what they can & can't do. But Trump is an empty suit. . . nt

[world wide wally]

9. I don't think Trump believes in anything besides Trump.

He is the proverbial con man getting caught in his own bulllshit when pressed hard enough. Why wasn't he ever pressed on this or any other policy before now?

[Cryptoad]

11. Hows that GOP outreach progam working out?

[0rganism]

12. DJT correctly assessed the pro-life position after thinking about it for 5 seconds

clearly he hadn't given any prior thought to his pro-life pandering, so he was able to arrive quickly at the simplest and most obvious consequences of such policies and state them plainly in words we can all understand. it's pretty much the most presidential thing i've seen him do, and he's getting torched for it.

torched from the right for stating a simple truth which was only to be hinted at with dog whistles.

torched from the left for the egregiousness of this standard Republican position for our future, aka "The Handmaid's Tail".

strangely enough, kudos to both DJT and Matthews for tossing this idea around and revealing the ugly truth that underlies it.

[B Calm]

14. +1. If abortion was against the law they would punish the law breaker. Republicans know this

and their fake outrage is hilarious!

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

23. From "National Treasure": "Somebody's got to go to jail..." n/t

[malaise]

27. The fake outrage is because

he let THEIR CAT out of the bag. ReTHUGs are allowed to dance around these issues so how dare the Donald expose their long term plans. I'm betting that was the reason for that sudden RNC meeting.

[B Calm]

28. I think you're spot on about the sudden RNC meeting.

[KT2000]

15. forcing women to give birth

is another form of punishment they endorse. A woman must be punished for having sex without the intent of procreation.
The whole issue is about punishment.

Glad you brought this up.

[andym]

16. Trump reached a logical conclusion

If abortion is illegal and considered murder, then why shouldn't all the parties involved be punished. It's logical and such consequences would quickly result from a ruling that declared that legally human life begins at conception and is entitled to full protection under the law. Of course conservatives don't want people to know this.

[SheilaT]

17. And of course, every woman who has an abortion

got pregnant all by herself, no man involved, right Donald?

The other thing the anti-choice people simply don't understand is that even if abortion is outlawed, women will still find a way, unless you monitor every single woman of child-bearing age, noting carefully every month whether or not she has her period. I believe it was Romania that did that, and the numbers of abandoned, unwanted babies was truly heartbreaking.

[Ilsa]

22. Revisiting history isn't something low-information republicans

like to do. After all, they might learn something from history that doesn't jive with their ignorant talking points and RW brainwashing.

They have probably forgotten the extremely violent deaths by firing squad of Nikolai and Elena Ceaușescu after the Romanian Revolution.

But some of the worst sins were the warehousing of children into those disgusting orphanages.

[jtuck004]

18. Is Sharia Law, no? So those communities that have written laws forbidding Sharia Law, are

they going to be in trouble if the real estate swindler wins?

[mainer]

20. If a woman's forced to use a clothes hanger to abort

whom does the GOP propose to punish, if not the woman? The store that sold her the hanger?

I agree that Trump is only following a logical train of thought.

[elehhhhna]

26. if, however, she shoots the fetus, its all good

[randr]

21. Attacks against Planned Parenthood are punishments aimed at women

Facts are facts, the Republicans have waged war on women ever since they asked for the right to vote.