cnn: Keystone leak 90x worse than first reported

[spanone]

TransCanada now believes the Keystone pipeline has leaked about 16,800 gallons in South Dakota, a dramatic increase from initial estimates.

The leak was discovered on Saturday and forced a key section of the controversial pipeline to be shut down. TransCanada (TRP) initially told regulators the spill totaled about 187 gallons of oil.

TransCanada told CNNMoney that while the company has "made progress" in trying to find the source of the leak, it has "yet to pinpoint the source."

Despite that, TransCanada said the spill has been "controlled" because the pipeline was shut down immediately after it was reported and valves and pump stations were shut down remotely. The company said visual inspections confirmed the valves were closed.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/04/07/news/keystone-oil-spill-south-dakota/index.html

[B Calm]

1. Boy you'd think you see this being reported on the national news.

[spanone]

2. our media is no longer our watchdog....it's 'truth' for profit

that's how i see it.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. You are talking about South Dakota and

there is only one News Source that being the Argosy in Souix Falls. And South Dakota being Corporate Friendly,you are never going to here about Corporate screw ups.

[jwirr]

5. The reservations out there are not corporate friendly. Is any

of the damages on the rez?

[Wellstone ruled]

25. Just North of the Santee and West of the

other Santee Reservation. If this gets into the James River it will hit the Missouri.

[jwirr]

32. Shit. I just read that there was damage in another DU thread.

I hope the tribe takes them (the Canadian Company) on. Tribal cases are usually very slow in getting to a settlement but all the better. The company will have to pay a lawyer for the next 15 years.

I worked with the tribes to try and stop the coal mining in Montana and got no where. This makes me so angry. Always they target native lands.

[Wellstone ruled]

34. Seems the Santee Band

are more proactive than the Crow or Paiute Bands. The Santee Band wanted to be the Marijuana growers and distributors in Sodak last summer. They were building Grow Houses and a Processing plant at their Casino in Flandreu South Dakota,heard it has since been shuttered. I know there are Band Members who have large beef and Cash crop operations in and around the Parkton area.

[jwirr]

37. Yeah, one of the things that makes me thing we are going to

get MJ legalized is how hard they are trying to prevent independent growers from growing. My guess is that when it is legalized it will be corporate growers.

[Wellstone ruled]

38. That is what is happening here in Nevada.

One of the Casino owners formed a Corporation to not only Market but will control the Growing and processing operations for all of Nevada. Notice how the DOJ told the Bankers that it is now okay to deal with Marijuana cash receipts.

As far as the Flandreu Santee Band,hopefully after this DOJ thing they can get back on track with their operations.

[pinboy3niner]

7. Argus Leader: Oil spill estimate jumps to almost 17K gallons

http://www.argusleader.com/story/news/2016/04/07/transcanada-pipeline-oil-spill-estimate-jumps-400-barrels/82757630/

[jwirr]

4. Who does this pipeline belong to and can they be sued for

damages?

[Wellstone ruled]

26. If it is Enbridge,that is

majority owned by Flint Hill(koch),could be operated via Kinder-Morgan.

[Katashi_itto]

6. Go Clinton!

[PatV]

23. Hillary Clinton's 5 takes on the Keystone Pipeline

October 2010: We're "inclined" to back it

June 2014: "I can't respond" but we're "trying to get it right"

January 2015: "I'm not going to express an opinion"

July 2015: "If it is undecided when I become president, I will answer your question"

September 2015: "I oppose it"

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/politics/hillary-clinton-keystone-pipeline-history/

Full quotes are at the link. She's EVOLVING doncha know.

[chknltl]

8. IMO This story needed legs. Good on you CNN

More info here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141406322

[spanone]

40. thanks, good thread!!!!

[2naSalit]

9. K&R

[OnlinePoker]

10. This is the problem with buried pipes

Until you unbury them, you can never be sure how much has leaked out.

[Fast Walker 52]

11. I'm shocked SHOCKED!

[Takket]

12. whoa wait a minute!!!!!!!!!!

McConnell has had the ear of the MSM for years every time he wants to tout that the pipeline is safe and Obama has no reason to block it! So why is DU the first place I hear about it?

But, sarcastic indignation aside, I though the keystone was blocked???? Why is it in South Dakota??? I know Canada installed piping but I didn't know it ever made it here.

[spanone]

13. well, it IS being reported on CNN, so that's a tad of hope

[gratuitous]

22. Same company, different pipeline

Keystone XL still hasn't been approved for its entire length, though many segments are operating in the United States. This is another pipeline owned and operated by Trans Canada.

Ordinarily, I'd say this episode doesn't bode well for final approval of the Keystone XL pipeline, but I'm remarkably ignorant of just what criteria go into the political calculations of such decisions.

[bvar22]

28. ...what criteria go into the political calculations of such decisions?

The most important is money paid to the right politicians.

[prairierose]

30. Exactly, bvar22, and in this state,it is not hard...

to know which politicians to bribe. You don't even have to bribe very many here...small state.

[Takket]

29. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[RiverNoord]

33. Technically, the XL portion is only a shortcut through Montana, western South Dakota and Nebraska.

Transcanada has built a bunch of active pipelines running through the US during the past 6-7 years. Keystone XL would have been fairly straight run from Hardisty in Alberta to Steele City in Nebraska. It also would have been used to move North Dakota Bakken oil fields crude instead of how it's currently transported, mostly by rail.

Blocking the XL portion, in reality, didn't amount to much of a win. As the folks in Hutchinson County are learning...

[Jopin Klobe]

14. Yes, we've closed the valves ...

... so, it's all over ...

... except for the toxic crap still sinking into the earth and groundwater ...

[Grins]

15. So...they were off by about 9,000%....

Simple mistake. (One that everyone saw coming.)

[Divernan]

18. Every single leak is initially underestimated by a factor of 10.

At least the ones that eventually did get reported. And most of those were noticed by property owners, not by the pipe operators who were supposedly monitoring for changes in pressure which would indicate a leak.

[Blue Dalek]

35. ^^THIS^^

[womanofthehills]

45. Known for huge numbers of bad welds - almost half of all welds had to be redone

Canadian regulators noted 21 incidents in the Keystone pipeline’s first year in operation. And U.S regulators identified up to 62 probable deficiencies in TransCanada’s operations of the pipeline, as noted in a letter PHMSA sent to TransCanada last year. PHMSA has fined the company for breaking rules, but has never taken action to stop construction when inspectors caught the company breaking the rules.

“It is possible the Keystone pipeline has other small leaks that have not been identified yet at the site of other bad welds,” Vokes said. “It is impossible to know where they are until someone notices them, and by that time the damage could be catastrophic.”

http://www.desmogblog.com/2016/04/06/keystone-pipeline-spill-transcanada-scrambles-latest-mishap

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-05-30/the-real-reason-keystone-xl-might-fail

“From the start of welding,” the PHMSA wrote in a Sept. 26, 2013, letter (PDF), “TransCanada experienced a high weld rejection rate.” (That is, ultrasonic testing on the welds holding the pipes together determined they were not up to snuff.) “During the first week 26.8 percent of the welds required repairs, 32.0 percent the second week, 72.2 percent the third week, and 45.0 percent the fourth week. On September 25, 2012, TransCanada stopped the Spread 3 welding after 205 of the 425 welds, or 48.2 percent required repairs.”

[C Moon]

16. Yeah, CNN is reporting it...under the category CNN MONEY.

[Kittycat]

24. FFS!

[C Moon]

41. I'm saying it should be headline news, not hidden in the Money section.

Maybe I'm thinking of newspapers.

[Kittycat]

42. I agree. I'm just so sick of this.

[C Moon]

43. Oh, I thought you were telling me to shut up: like I was dissecting it, too much. :)

[Kittycat]

44. Of goodness no. Post away! Please

I'm just at a loss for words some times.

I really thought the GWB years would be our worst. But I struggle to see any improvement in these and many other key areas of public information, investigative journalism, transparency. Even media fact checkers have failed us, only giving narrow definitions of facts or stories to portray their truth ranges.

I don't even want to get in to how much further right we've slipped on other matters as far as policy. I'll be here all night.

[Ferd Berfel]

17. Oil leaks are always 100x worse than 'first reported'

It's how they operate. And the Media is more often complicit than not.

Since the 'press' is given special status in the constitution, Maybe we can sue "media" for failing their constitutional duty?

[highprincipleswork]

19. Oh, but it'll never leak! Not this one.

[suffragette]

20. It's always worse than they anticipate or admit at first

They'll lie about anything to get their profit.

[No Vested Interest]

21. Rachel Maddow reported on this last night. nt

[AxionExcel]

27. The Republicans still trying to ram this freaking toxic boondoggle up America's keester

Behold a big bluster-blubbing keester-reamer (R $), doing his best to keep America anchored in Republican FAIL.

[RiverNoord]

31. Looks like TransCanada could use another pep talk from Hillary Clinton.

Although the 1.6 million she already got for last year's pep talks didn't seem to pay off too well...

[Brickbat]

36. Less than half the capacity of one tanker car.

[malaise]

39. What a fugging mess

Lock it down