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lovuian

(19,362 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:51 AM Apr 2016

A killer planet is rapidly heading toward Earth

http://nypost.com/video/a-killer-planet-is-rapidly-heading-towards-earth/amp/

Scientists believe they have discovered a planet, currently unnamed but being referred to as Planet 9. Unfortunately, this might not be great news, since the planet’s orbit might cause asteroids to come shooting at the Earth.

http://time.com/4184942/planet-9-new-pluto-solar-system/

Brown and Batygin concluded that Sedna and the other members of its flock must be herded by an as-yet-unobserved planet with about ten times the mass of Earth, circling the sun at an average distance 20 times greater than that of Neptune—making one orbit every 20,000 years.
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A killer planet is rapidly heading toward Earth (Original Post) lovuian Apr 2016 OP
Nibiru AxionExcel Apr 2016 #1
Yep. Nibiru's coming! ladyVet Apr 2016 #40
Let's get this party started Visionary Apr 2016 #2
The Elite (R) have already started partying (and peeing on trees) without us smelly proles AxionExcel Apr 2016 #4
Smelly proles keep their fires lit. nt leveymg Apr 2016 #35
Lars von Trier "Melancholia" - Ending scene Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #3
I loved that movie!! nt B2G Apr 2016 #10
that gives us time to become an off planet species SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #5
We would be well advised to worry about solar flares, but not about this Baobab Apr 2016 #6
Planet 9 from Outer Space? Really? Bucky Apr 2016 #7
Yes shenmue Apr 2016 #8
Thread win! denbot Apr 2016 #13
At least it's not a Dark Star. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #18
I came for this comment JackInGreen Apr 2016 #27
Do we deserve to be snuffed out with class? 2naSalit Apr 2016 #32
You do realize all planets are from outer space L. Coyote Apr 2016 #34
Tabloid lies, distortion and nonsense in the first link muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #9
Forget it... pinboy3niner Apr 2016 #11
We just let our buddy the janitor sweep up the garbage before we see most of it Paulie Apr 2016 #25
Kuiper Belt Objects Point The Way To Planet 9 lovuian Apr 2016 #28
oh, planET 9. for a second I was worried..... Fla_Democrat Apr 2016 #12
That is a movie that never gets worse with repeated viewing elljay Apr 2016 #26
Angora sweaters never go out of style. leveymg Apr 2016 #37
Nor does Tor Johnson elljay Apr 2016 #38
Thought this was a Trump joke. retread Apr 2016 #14
Oh you did, did you? AxionExcel Apr 2016 #15
We Americans are tired of being anal probed! Kaleva Apr 2016 #17
Speak for yourself awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #19
Rec'd for the comments in this thread. Kaleva Apr 2016 #16
Mysterious planet is to blame for mass extinctions of life on Earth, scientist claims lovuian Apr 2016 #24
We don't need no stinking space program! HuckleB Apr 2016 #20
If you can't trust shitty newspapers on science, who can you trust? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #21
OK, now that's funny... Wounded Bear Apr 2016 #22
Science Daily lovuian Apr 2016 #23
So, wait, is this a simulation they're talking about sakabatou Apr 2016 #33
Yep DJ13 Apr 2016 #29
I don't believe anything any more. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #30
sweet, another test for evolution snooper2 Apr 2016 #31
There are thousands of planetoids out there, is this new? Rex Apr 2016 #36
Like the amazing Criswell said in the movie, this story is true, based on sworn testimony. pressbox69 Apr 2016 #39

AxionExcel

(755 posts)
1. Nibiru
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

of course. Watch out - Marduk Baal Moloch Moolah (whatever) is coming to take names and kick booty.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
40. Yep. Nibiru's coming!
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 10:51 AM
Apr 2016

I'm reading a book about this now. Very interesting. Good research for future stories.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
6. We would be well advised to worry about solar flares, but not about this
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 12:10 PM
Apr 2016

Carrington class CME = high chance of causing massive global disruption, maybe 1 in 8 per decade..

Because of the ultimate health sink problem, (I.e. Fulushima) we should not build any more boiling water nuclear reactors.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. You do realize all planets are from outer space
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:55 PM
Apr 2016

Actually, that's where they hang out.

I guess this refers to the outer solar system. But your comment is still funny, a planet from outer space...who knew.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,337 posts)
9. Tabloid lies, distortion and nonsense in the first link
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:24 PM
Apr 2016

They've got the 'story' (about 6 sentences) about a wrong as it's possible to. The Time article is realistic. Let's deconstruct the New York Post crap:

"A killer planet is rapidly heading toward Earth"

No. It's not a 'killer', and it's not heading toward Earth. They think there is a planet which is between 200 and 1,200 times the distance of the Earth from the Sun. It orbits about once every 20,000 years, and never gets anywhere near the Earth.

"In January, a new planet was discovered at the edge of the Solar System"

Well, a prominent astronomer thinks all the evidence (ie the orbits of other Kuiper Belt objects) points to this planet. But no-one has detected it directly yet.

"Planet 9" takes 20,000 years to orbit the Sun"

Yay! They got a whole sentence right!

"When closest to us, it pushes asteroids and comets towards Earth"

Hmm. The other articles haven't claimed this; they've talked about how it affects the orbits of the Kuiper Belt objects, out beyond Neptune. If this were true, remember that it would happen once every 20,000 years ...

"Some scientists believe this is what caused the extinction of the dinosaurs"

which was 65 million years ago. There is no evidence at all that an event that has happened 3250 times since then was responsible for that.

"They also believe it's going happen again ..."

I think this is just made-up. They don't name the 'some scientists', and there's no evidence that the next time will be different from the 3249 times before that.

"as early as this month"

Again, made-up bullshit. No-one has seen this planet; no-one can say the closest approach will happen "as early as this month".

That's it, apart from an IRS joke. All in all, it's total bullshit.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
25. We just let our buddy the janitor sweep up the garbage before we see most of it
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:23 PM
Apr 2016

Tran-sneptunian objects have to deal with him first.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
28. Kuiper Belt Objects Point The Way To Planet 9
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:29 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.universetoday.com/127800/could-planet-9-still-exist/

On January 20th, 2016, researchers Konstantin Batygin and Michael E. Brown of Caltech announced that they had found evidence that hinted at the existence of a massive planet at the edge of the Solar System. Based on mathematical modeling and computer simulations, they predicted that this planet would be a super-Earth, two to four times Earth’s size and 10 times as massive. They also estimated that, given its distance and highly elliptical orbit, it would take 10,000 – 20,000 years to orbit the Sun.

Since that time, many researchers have responded with their own studies about the possible existence of this mysterious “Planet 9”. One of the latest comes from the University of Arizona, where a research team from the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory have indicated that the extreme eccentricity of distant Kuiper Belt Objects (KBOs) might indicate that they crossed paths with a massive planet in the past.

For some time now, it has been understood that there are a few known KBOs who’s dynamics are different than those of other belt objects. Whereas most are significantly controlled by the gravity of the gas giants planets in their current orbits (particularly Neptune), certain members of the scattered disk population of the Kuiper Belt have unusually closely-spaced orbits.

I love the picture in this article

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
12. oh, planET 9. for a second I was worried.....
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 01:46 PM
Apr 2016

I thought it was just Plan 9 from Outter Space..... /whew.





lovuian

(19,362 posts)
24. Mysterious planet is to blame for mass extinctions of life on Earth, scientist claims
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:20 PM
Apr 2016

Mysterious planet is to blame for mass extinctions of life on Earth, scientist claims

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/science/Mysterious-planet-is-to-blame-for-mass-extinctions-of-life-on-Earth-scientist-claims/articleshow/51620793.cms

mysterious, hidden planet that could be sitting on the edge of our solar system might be linked with periodic extinctions on Earth, according to a researcher.

The unconfirmed planet might trigger comet showers, bringing huge extinction events, according to a new paper by Daniel Whitmire, a retired astrophysics professor. The paper links the periodic extinction events that happen on Earth — which can be seen in the fossil record to wipe out huge parts of life on Earth about every 27 million years — with the unknown Planet 9.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
23. Science Daily
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:16 PM
Apr 2016
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160407092944.htm

Planet 9 takes shape: Newfound planet in our outer solar system simulated

In their paper accepted by the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics the scientists conclude that a planet with the projected mass equal to 10 Earth masses has a present-day radius of 3.7 Earth radii. Its temperature is minus 226 degrees Celsius or 47 Kelvin. "This means that the planet's emission is dominated by the cooling of its core, otherwise the temperature would only be 10 Kelvin," explains Esther Linder: "Its intrinsic power is about 1000 times bigger than its absorbed power." Therefore, the reflected sunlight contributes only a minor part to the total radiation that could be detected. This also means that the planet is much brighter in the infrared than in the visual. "With our study candidate Planet 9 is now more than a simple point mass, it takes shape having physical properties," says Christoph Mordasini.

The researchers also checked if their results explain why planet 9 hasn't been detected by telescopes so far. They calculated the brightness of smaller and bigger planets on various orbits. They conclude that the sky surveys performed in the past had only a small chance to detect an object with a mass of 20 Earth masses or less, especially if it is near the farthest point of its orbit around the Sun. But NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer may have spotted a planet with a mass equal to 50 Earth masses or more. "This puts an interesting upper mass limit for the planet," Esther Linder explains. According to the scientists, future telescopes like the Large Synoptic Survey Telescope under construction near Cerro Tololo in Chile or dedicated surveys should be able to find or rule out candidate Planet 9. "That is an exciting perspective," says Christoph Mordasini.


It's a biggie

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
30. I don't believe anything any more.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:41 PM
Apr 2016

Am reading The Sky Is Not The Limit by Neil de Grasse Tyson. He talks about these kinds of stories. Good book. More autobiographical than I had realized when I picked it up. Recommend you request it at your library. Makes me dream of soaring thru the galaxy!!

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
31. sweet, another test for evolution
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 11:45 PM
Apr 2016

either the bundy fuckers with stashes of food and weapons will live-

Or people with a good grasp on science and math

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
36. There are thousands of planetoids out there, is this new?
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 12:51 AM
Apr 2016

There is some big ass shit way, way out there. There, I scienced.

pressbox69

(2,252 posts)
39. Like the amazing Criswell said in the movie, this story is true, based on sworn testimony.
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 03:04 AM
Apr 2016

Can you prove it didn't happen 20,000 years ago?

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