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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGOPer: Clinton Will 'Go Down Like Monica Lewinsky' Debating Trump
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/florida-republican-clinton-down-like-lewinskyBob Sutton, chairman of the Broward County GOP Executive Committee, suggested Clinton would be easy to debate in the general election.
I think when Donald Trump debates Hillary Clinton shes going to go down like Monica Lewinsky, Sutton told the Post.
Kristin Matheny, secretary of the Broward County Republican Party in Sutton's county, told the Sun Sentinel newspaper that Sutton should apologize.
You stay classy, Bob!
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)nor seen Clinton at a debate
So I rate this as pure misogynist bullcrap
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)If it ever happens, Hillary will take Trump to the cleaners. This person apparently never saw her handle the inane Benghazi witch hunters either. Love her or hate her, the woman maintains her cool under pressure. This reminds me of the amazement shown by the media PTB when Joe Biden handed Paul Ryan his head in the last V.P. debate (after having previously being far too much the gentleman with Sarah Palin). The Republicans chose, for inexplicable reasons, to portray this experienced and successful former senator as a clutzy clown, and the press jumped gleefully on the bandwagon.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Most republican voters clearly don't, but what about everyone else?
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Human brains do not work that way.
Who, whom ...as Lenin said... Is the basis for human decision making.
robbob
(3,523 posts)Isn't that how the gipper "won" his debates against Jimmy Carter? Logic and facts be damned; all you really need is a good catch phrase...
elljay
(1,178 posts)I was so sure Carter won that debate and I was stunned the next morning by the polls. The people who are interested in meaningful issues have largely made their minds up before debates. Those who haven't will always go for the simple sound bites.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)femmedem
(8,199 posts)And imagine the level of misogyny in Sutton's circle if he thinks it's ok to talk like that to the press.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)and provide a link.
You know damn well no one here said it.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)They've come close. But I don't think any have gone quite that far, yet.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Wouldn't you agree?
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I just did not have time to write them all.
Chemisse
(30,807 posts)They are truly repulsive.
lpbk2713
(42,751 posts)He would ramble on with his usual ad hominem bullshit and the moderators would grow short
of patience trying to keep him on topic. Unless the debate was aired on Faux of course.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)They should have known Bernie was pulling his punches, but the Republicans wont pull any punches...... no matter how much they complain.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)so whoever wins hasn't been kneecapped before the General.
frylock
(34,825 posts)was pulling punches?
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)That is disgusting.
struggle4progress
(118,270 posts)greymouse
(872 posts)If "that woman" is nominated. Oh, wait, it's the other "that woman."
hay rick
(7,603 posts)we once again are confronted by the question of how low the Republicans can go. I was shocked when George W. Bush won the Republican nomination. I was shocked again when McCain picked Palin for his running mate. I was shocked yet again when Trump's crude insults not only didn't derail his campaign but appeared to fuel its momentum.
Bob Nobody, Republican from Broward County makes a Monica Lewinsky remark? I am not shocked or surprised. He's a Republican and they no longer hold themselves to any meaningful standard.
WIProgressive88
(314 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)We don't have 100% of the women vote yet.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Meaningful to come out of Trump's mouth. While we're at it, can ANYONE on the right say anything with substance or TACT? What a bunch of knuckle dragging jackasses.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)like "when you're in the hot seat, facts will cook your balls"
just something that will gross out The Donald.
He's grossed out by women.
He thinks about his body a lot.
So, what tweets should be sent?
houston16revival
(953 posts)I could imagine Trump getting her goat
HRC becomes slightly strident when miffed
Trump brushes off anything he disagrees with, he rules more than debates
and the media elites allow him free reign
Facts don't matter to Trump, he just reassures and invents what he needs
This is a very worrisome pairing in my view
But she'll have handlers, and coaches, and prep, and the very best the world
has to give her
She is one battle-tested lady
She's going to have to channel Margaret Thatcher, FDR, Lloyd Bentsen, Ann Richards
We could finally reverse that moment that began it all: "Are you better off than
you were four years ago?"
"Do you want our nation led by someone who can't keep his facts straight and changes
direction five times a day?"
trumad
(41,692 posts)greymouse
(872 posts)Hillary would be saying this? Are you joking?
FDR would puke at Hillary's character. Margaret Thatcher, well, that's a different story.
houston16revival
(953 posts)You sound like a Trump Troll
Go home
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)and the character of his wife too. For being privileged elitists, for being corporate stooges and sellouts, for being socialists, all sorts of things. Having read books about FDR's presidency, I believe the criticisms of him coming from the self-described left and self-described right (loads of conspiracy theories on both sides) were similar to those of Hillary Clinton today. I love reading history books because they clue us in to what's happening today - nothing much is new under the sun. Hillary is calling for a new New Deal. I think both Hillary and FDR share the ability to kick right wing asses and get things done that are good for average people. And I think you're either trolling or (perhaps even more embarrassing) unaware of the opposition to FDR's policies at the time they were being implemented. Hint: nearly every one of his policies was challenged in court.
zalinda
(5,621 posts)The very first thing you should be aware of is 'noblesse oblige', Hillary doesn't have an ounce of it in her body, all you have to do is look at her history to see it. Defending child rapist by accusing the child of solicitation , built luxury hotel in Haiti instead of destroyed homes, H1B visas and wanting more of them, defending wall street, just to name a few, FDR and Eleanor are rolling over in their graves at the thought of these actions being associated with their names.
And, what criticisms from the left the Roosevelts got was because the left were communists back then. The people loved them and voted for them 3 times. Bernie is much more like Roosevelt than Hillary could or would ever be. She never thinks of us lessers, unless she wants our vote, after that we are ignored. It has always been that way, and always will. She learned her lesson in Iraq, so she would never do the same thing in Libya, right?
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Skittles
(153,138 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)Sad.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)enid602
(8,607 posts)Or, is that half a pack of certs in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me.
Vinca
(50,250 posts)It's going to be 6 months of this stuff.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Too Funny!
frylock
(34,825 posts)The Republicans have many real-world scenarios to reference on that front.
peace13
(11,076 posts)The terns you thought were sexist with Bernie are gonna feel like kisses from momma compared to what she is going to be hit with next. The scary raised voice of Bernie will sound like a love song compared to the orange vomit she will be hit with in a GE. Ugly is putting it mildly!
greymouse
(872 posts)You know how proper the alumnae of Mrs. Smith's School for Young Ladies are.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)I'm sure Hillary is shaking in her pantsuit ( as her contemporary---even with better legs, I think that's a good choice. Also why should she even consider what she wears? I know this became a tangent---but I couldn't resist). On to relevance: what makes you think that she couldn't handle any of the Republican clowns? Have you been living in a cave--or just Fox brainwashed? Wait! Maybe you're just trolling?
peace13
(11,076 posts)Poutrages for her Dem Attacker and whatever she decides to use for her Rethugs..TBD. It could be a sniper attack for I know.
peace13
(11,076 posts)Your troll argument is a fine example of all shame in the Hill camp. Projection is the game. Better go look in the mirror.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Man!" reply. Anyone can claim "projection" since it takes you off the hook in an endless circular argument. It's interesting---I've never been accused of being a troll before. BTW, I voted for Bernie in the PA primary.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)And here I thought the Donald was a sexist shit heel.....
The fact that Lewinsky is still a republican joke du jour shows what absolute assholes they are.
Sexism and slut shaming all in one.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)fasttense
(17,301 posts)This is but a small taste of what they are going to throw at her.
It will get worse. The GOP doesn't care about the woman vote, except maybe for women like Ann Coulter. Coulter type women who want to take away their own right to vote if it means the success of the party.
Let's hope hurling sexist insults doesn't make Trump more popular. Hillary's dislike numbers are very high and attacking her may not be a bad strategy.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)This kind of vile misogyny will only help Hillary.
Oh, and here's my official response to the crap that this dude spewed:
gordianot
(15,237 posts)...of course there will be retaliation from Clinton supporters. This is the part of the election cycle I dread but may have to watch anyway. Trump and his immature personal insult style is somewhat unique. Not that there is any chance Trump or any Republican can sway me the ads themselves in small doses on YouTube might be interesting to see how they are handled. Think of the sheer waste of resources we commit to elections.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)in history..
Here comes a "real sexist" and they've cheapened a legitimate accusation...
0rganism
(23,933 posts)Trump is obviously a sexist. Trump's support base is infested with misogynists.
it doesn't matter a ton if HRC's campaign "cried wolf" earlier since all the "townspeople" can clearly see "the wolf" now.
Trump's going into this election with 70%+ disapproval from women and Hispanics. the scope of his defeat will be Epic.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)As we've seen Donald Trump doesn't mind making himself look bad as long as he takes down his opponent. And while she'll probably win it won't be without a cost. she'll enter the White House with high negatives , not a lot of capital and a Luke warm support from progressives.
Things will get much worse if she tries to flip on the TPP and can't get her college package through congress. Wouldn't surprie me if she's primaried from the left after her first term.
0rganism
(23,933 posts)i think she'll have plenty of capital and a compliant congress to work with on her agenda.
the remnants of the national-level Republican party will be kept quite busy trying to find their political footing after this election, and they won't see a lot of benefit in trying shit like email server impeachments.
Hillary's negatives are a serious thing and if she openly embraces the economic policies of the bandwagon plutocrats who jump ship from the dying Republican party, she will indeed be vulnerable to a primary challenge in 4 years.
what works in our favor is that the Clintons really like to triangulate, compromising their way to what they perceive as positions of political strength. those positions of political strength are about to shift. she'll be triangulating toward the left instead of away from it.
raindaddy
(1,370 posts)Where we do agree is if she continues the current economic class war against the poor and middle-class she'll probably face a challenge from the left in four years.
I just don't see her triangulating toward the left. In fact I see her flipping on the TPP within her first year in office. I hope I'm wrong...it's going to be interesting as hell to watch unfold..
mdbl
(4,973 posts)But I had the same feeling when she told Jake Tapper on CNN she's against the TPP. My first thought was why can't you just say you won't consider it. Then I wondered if she even said it would she follow through if she's president. It's hard to vote for someone you don't know you can trust.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)eom
keithbvadu2
(36,724 posts)Dubya and Jeff Gannon?
Photographer
(1,142 posts)These people have no couth.
jg10003
(975 posts)I'm sure she will win the debate. However that does not mean that she will win the election. Most debate experts think the debates were won by Nixon in 1960 and Gore in 2000. However the voters disagreed (yes I know Gore actually won). A lot depends on how the media reacts.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Won the debates. Trump will win the game for the most faces, Hillary will come prepared to be the diplomat she is, Trump, same old crap.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Oh, you mean the debates with Bernie. She won those?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Thesec are future tense words not past tense.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)"" Trump will win the game for the most faces, Hillary will come prepared to be the diplomat she is, Trump, same old crap.
TipTok
(2,474 posts)Oh well..
Jeb Bartlet
(141 posts)opens his mouth and nothing but shit comes out.
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)this is a dispicable thing to say by piece of garbage at the foot of all of america.
alp227
(32,013 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh!
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Sexual vulgarity just makes men look like total assholes. But then this guy probably is a total asshole.
What an awful, completely tasteless, crass thing to say.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Well, that, and Trump being an Orange-American.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)I hate that when men talk like that.
2banon
(7,321 posts)creeps. I might get alerted on here, so I won't express those here.
but they're in my head, and it's really hard to keep there.
frylock
(34,825 posts)jeffreydj
(7 posts)I do not remember Donald Trump ever debating Monica Lewinsky, and even if he did, I am not at all confident that he prevailed.
Were they making a funny over Lewinsky's blow job of Trump? I would think he has bought enough of them to be able to judge Lewinsky's abilities in that act with a practiced eye.
Oh wait! They were comparing Hillary Clinton's putative BJ of Trump in their forthcoming debate to Lewinsky's performance in the Oval Office 20 years ago. I have not read the Starr report, so I am not certain that Lewinsky's skill as a blow jobber was actually ascertained. So it is a wild guess at best.
Any of the women on this thread ever BJ a man promptly after demolishing him into a quivering heap? No? I thought not. There is no way Hillary is going to offer the Donald any such comfort after she feasts on his smoldering remains.
Clinton will destroy Trump in the debates. Everyone but Trump will know it was a demolition, and his ignorance of that will be a leading reason why he is not fit for the presidency. She will wreck him, and he will think that she tried and failed to blow him. He will only get it right on November 9th.