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http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/rafael-cruz-ted-cruz-campaign-god-sign
Ted Cruz decided to run for president after God spoke to his wife, Heidi.
That's how Rafael Cruz, Ted's father and a born-again pastor, described his son's decision-making process. Speaking on a syndicated radio show at the end of last year, the elder Cruz recounted that during a Sunday prayer session at a Texas church, Ted Cruz and his family sought God's guidance as to whether the senator should enter the presidential race, and after two hours of praying, God sent a message to Heidi that essentially said: Go for it.
Here's the story, according to Rafael Cruz:
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,888 posts)And I think he's fucking with them.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Chemisse
(30,817 posts)So God, et al, can all munch while they enjoy the show.
Stinky The Clown
(67,827 posts)AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)Retrograde
(10,163 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Or allow for the possibility of other spirits having htem on.
But hten, maybe that's just me - I'm an all-or-nothing kind of guy, it's either atheism or polytheistic animism.
tblue37
(65,490 posts)part time as each other. Heh, heh, heh.
Bucky
(54,087 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)...Well... more crazy than she started out?
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)monmouth4
(9,711 posts)tblue37
(65,490 posts)that He is always a dangerous player in matters of politics and public policy.
(I know you meant Cruz, but I couldn't resist the straight line. Never can, frankly. It's a character flaw.)
DustyJoe
(849 posts)then a prez cruz is a VP beck !
tanyev
(42,634 posts)Chemisse
(30,817 posts)Too bad so many of them miss the point altogether.
csziggy
(34,139 posts)hatrack
(59,593 posts).
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)In the wake of Boehner's comments about Cruz, Mother Jones ran an excellent (and exhaustive) piece on the many people who loathe Cruz, with all of the gory details.
And in typical "all roads lead to Rome" fashion, the common thread was that Cruz is a dick who does not play well with others. He invited himself to meetings he was never invited to, he was the prototype "self-proclaimed" expert...kinda the way George Zimmerman was a "self-appointed neighborhood watch" thug.
So yeah...maybe this was the only way God thought he could teach Cruz a lesson.
Or maybe he imagined it all because it fit his agenda.
Kingofalldems
(38,493 posts)So why doesn't Jesus tell everyone to vote for him?
hatrack
(59,593 posts)Plus, lots of people screen their calls these days, so . . .
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I'd be scared of being stalked...
eppur_se_muova
(36,302 posts)seems I left it behind at the bodega when I charged my groceries. No harm done.
OK, if it you put the little accent in, it spoils the joke ...
Gman
(24,780 posts)They've so thoroughly saturated government with him, he's now Hatched.
Or something....
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)i will laugh at him when trump is the nominee and then trump gets his ass beat
Chemisse
(30,817 posts)She was probably thinking, Fuck this! I'm going to say some cryptic, yet holy-sounding statement and put an end to this 6-months-on-our-knees-in-prayer bullshit.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)nm
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Chemisse
(30,817 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)nruthie
(466 posts)What does that quote even mean? "Seek God's face, not God's hand?" Really?
Can someone please interpret this God-speak for me?
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)the arrogance of that prick makes me sick
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...I take it to mean that God's hand would be a set of circumstances in which Cruz was well-liked, admired, and carried a resume that make him Presidential material. Maybe a distinguished Military career, coupled with helping to write and pass legislation that showed him to be a leader with a keen interest in what is best for the American people. And as we all know, he did none of that. He battled to make dildos illegal in Texas and shut down the government. And even his own daughter shrinks away in disgust when he tries to hug her.
So God's face is basically God's word, which in the simplest terms is that on-his-knees Ted sees himself as the anointed one, so he probably dug into the Bible for things like Joseph being a slave in Pharaoh's house (Genesis 39). The punchline is that Joseph did his time and walked away with all the marbles. Read Cruz's reaction to the Boehner attack (I posed it yesterday, you can find it in GD). He thinks Boehner is pissed off because he is "energizing Republicans." See the connection? It's a classic persecution complex, so Ted dips into the Bible and channels every persecuted figure and sees "God's face" in it, and feels that all of the hatred and lack of respect is proof that he is the anointed one.
dembotoz
(16,860 posts)Throw in some speaking in tongues and boom it's profesy
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Surely, He could have made up his mind more quickly than 2 hours of kneeling. It didn't take any time at all for Him to create the earth.
I don't think I'd rely on His word, he was just playin' with ya...just sayin'.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
hatrack
(59,593 posts)Delusional douchecanoes, one and all.
You talk to God, that's prayer. God talks to you, that's schizophrenia.
desmiller
(747 posts)spanone
(135,897 posts)Pakid
(478 posts)Misleading poor Ted like that. But then they do say that no one likes Ted. I guess that even includes God.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)mike_c
(36,281 posts)'Round the bend, utterly delusional shit for brains psycho. Bug fuck crazy. Somewhere there is a straight jacket yearning to embrace Ted Cruz.
2naSalit
(86,824 posts)that $500K loan she got him or was that a different prayer? Bet that one didn't take six months!
It seems they always listen to those voices in their head.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Remember Jethro Tull's "Hymn 43" from "Aqualung?"
If Jesus saves -- well, He'd better save Himself from the gory glory seekers who use His name in death
"In death" is basically Christian shorthand for:
Cruz: "Jesus told my wife to tell my wife that he wants me to run for President."
Jesus: "No I didn't."
I can already hear Cruz's concession speech, about how he will be undeterred in doing God's work for the American people.
2naSalit
(86,824 posts)Hadn't thought about the lyrics to that song in a long time! And you are correct! and then there's the American Indian perspective on the gory glory seekers...
It's 8+ minutes but lyrics are so powerful, especially the part where he - John Trudell - says,
"To god, we don't mean any disrespect but we want to talk to you about these christians..."
And what follows pretty much says it all for me. I spend a good part of my time with Indians and participate in some of their cultural events so I see this up close and personal often.
Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)his wife, Heidi."....
Sounds like an opium-filled orgy!
Ghost
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...and loaded up on peyote so they could watch the sun come up while out of their skulls.
Cruz has taken the special brand of insane zealotry we've come to know and love from people like Santorum and Bachmann and run with it.
I see no coincidence in the fact that the articles touting how "GOP Elites" are "warming up to" Trump appeared within 24 hours of Cruz's Fiorina announcement. Sometimes enough is enough, you know? No matter what we may think of Republicans, I do believe that in 2016, they understand that they are screwed no matter which way they turn.
1). Donald Trump...beaten to a pulp in the GE
2). Ted Cruz...take that Trump pulp and beat it even more mercilessly, leaving egg-stained faces on the GOP that will endure for the next few election cycles
3), Draft Paul Ryan...revolt, anger, and a lifetime of bad P.R. for the party
So Trump really has become the lesser of three evils, and man oh man, is that tragic.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)pnwmom
(109,000 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
KG
(28,753 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,380 posts)Bucky
(54,087 posts)thanks for that one
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)something akin to the more colorful, "Die, motherfucker, I'm not helping you!"?
Bucky
(54,087 posts)I thought only Moses could see God's face. Is there a view of God's face from the White House?
And why should we not seek God's hand? I thought that's what God was there for.
Botany
(70,603 posts).... "Ted get thee to a hooker and have her spank you w/my staff."
merrily
(45,251 posts)By any chance, at the time, was God's face doing this
or this
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)mr blur
(7,753 posts)than the average believer who hears voices from their invisible friend.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)malaise
(269,212 posts)for a red light end to the campaign -fugging morons.