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The Oklahoma Senate on Thursday passed a bill that would make it a felony to perform an abortion in the state, and if signed by Gov. Mary Fallin (R) would put it at odds with federal law.
Senate Bill 1552, sponsored by Republican state Sen. Nathan Dahm, passed with a 33-12 vote and no debate. The latest version of the bill cleared the House in late April, and it would automatically become law within five days if Fallin does not sign or does not veto.
"No person shall perform or induce an abortion upon a pregnant woman," the bill's language reads, striking through the clause "unless that person is a physician licensed to practice medicine in the State of Oklahoma. "
"Any person violating this section shall be guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not less than one (1) year nor more than three (3) years in the State Penitentiary," the bill continues.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/oklahoma-abortions-felony-223369#ixzz497gne247
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And this is why we must vote Blue No Matter Who!!!!
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)who say there is no different between the Democrats and Republicans - fuck that noise.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)are becoming more and more like the Republicans. I wonder if they will end up joining them
altogether some day. Who knows?.
There are no conservative Democrats. There are moderates and liberals. One is pragmatic and the other is chasing a unicorn fantasy. On the supreme court alone, I would never vote republican contrary to what the Bernie supporters claim because their hissy fit over their candidate losing has them lashing out at everyone that doesn't agree with them.
Blecht
(3,803 posts)Because your first sentence is a steaming pile of it.
No conservative Democrats? I have not seen anything so laughable in quite a while.
surrealAmerican
(11,362 posts)Last edited Thu May 19, 2016, 08:17 PM - Edit history (1)
Should we compromise, and let Oklahoma have their ban, so long as it doesn't affect other states?
Some of us don't think compromising on reproductive rights is reasonable. Is keeping abortion safe and legal in all 50 states a "unicorn fantasy" in your "moderate" world?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Neoliberalism is not progressive. You have no idea what a progressive is.
Because I've only been a liberal democrat my entire life. But you have taken it upon yourself to decide who and who is not a progressive? Tell me, did you get a plaque naming you the authority?
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)a decade of posting here, is even one post that says I support corporations? I'll wait for the link.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)ignoring the corporatist or you have no idea what it is.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)were no CONSERVATIVES in the party. You can't even quote me directly.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Research the name AL From.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)That you don't know that yourself is entirely your problem, not mine.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Neoliberalism is as needed conservative ideology. This is where the establishment gets its ideology from. http://www.thirdway.org/
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)what you're talking about and you're boring me with your redefinition of words. We're done here.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)tabasco
(22,974 posts)and the loss of the Senate and House of Representatives. Under the pathetic "leadership" of corrupt clowns like Wasserman-Schuiltz, the situation will only get worse. Any wonder why so many Democrats and independents are looking elsewhere for leadership?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)We lose state houses and governors because so many Democrats don't vote in the midterms. We see this every midterm election. You want better candidates? Then recruit them, give them money and get the fuck out and vote. Or run yourself.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)"It's the voters' fault." LOL
Autumn
(45,120 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)truth is entirely your problem - juvenile emoticon notwithstanding.
napi21
(45,806 posts)Decades ago, the SCOTUS declared Abortion WAS legal. All these nuts are doing is trying to get ANOTHER anti abortion case to the SCOTUS in hopes they can overturn Roe.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)If it every gets past the State Supreme court and the Federal Circuit
More RW grandstanding knowing full well they are full of shit and have no chance
Anyone charged under this law will get rich at expense of tax payers when they sue for civil rights violations
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)A lot of times, State governments will try to "make a statement" by voting to pass a law that flies directly in the face of established law. They know it will never stand up to Supreme Court scrutiny, but they usually try to word it in such a way that it only affects poor people and/or people who otherwise wouldn't have the wherewithal (financial or otherwise) to fight it all the way up to the Supreme Court.
This law targets DOCTORS. The ONE class of people who they KNOW will have the money and the backbone to fight it for as long as it takes (and to get the REALLY good lawyers on their side too). These Oklahoma Republican idiots would have been better off writing the bill so it punished the WOMEN who had the abortions. At least then they could hope that most of them wouldn't have the money to fight it, and the law would stand for a while.
And on a side note, every time I hear about Republicans bending over backwards to make abortion legal again, and to make gay marriage illegal, and to poke their grimy fingers into public restrooms, all I can think is.........this is the Party that claims to want to keep government OUT of your lives.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)They want to control government so that they can guarantee that the government does not work
A self fulfilling prophesy And we all know how they believe in prophesy
Wounded Bear
(58,685 posts)this doesn't look like it makes abortion illegal, at least one performed by a 'licensed physician,' which is of course a bit of a red herring in and of itself as it places more burden of regulation on the procedure.
What this seems to attack is the 'abortion pills' that have become a convenience to women everywhere. With this, it would seem a woman would need to go to a doctor's office to get the pill and would have to take it in his office. Any woman who took an abortifactant medication on her own would be subject to arrest and incarceration.
uppityperson
(115,678 posts)Chiyo-chichi
(3,584 posts)The bill that passed the legislature "struck through" the clause "unless that person is a physician licensed to practice medicine in the State of Oklahoma." It eliminates that clause & now simply reads that no one shall perform an abortion in the state.
The bill would prevent doctors from obtaining or renewing their license if they perform abortions. It would also subject them to 1-3 years in prison.
The only exceptions it provides are for the life of the mother and to remove a miscarried fetus.
Wounded Bear
(58,685 posts)guess it's not quite as stealthy as I thought. They're getting more blatant.
Either way it's a bullshit attack on women's right to medical care.
Demsrule86
(68,632 posts)He has other priorities.
"Senator Sanders agreed that Donald Trump's comments [on abortion] were shameful. But then he said they were a distraction from...'a serious discussion about the serious issues facing America.' To me, this is a serious issue," Clinton said at State University of New York at Purchase."
cali
(114,904 posts)Do it in the primary forum.
He is most certainly not the problem here.
You? Ugh.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)mac56
(17,574 posts)"Kindness and love"?! Ha.
Iggo
(47,563 posts)joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Clearly unconstitutional...god, the stupid burns.
Takket
(21,607 posts)Making it illegal to do something SCOTUS says is legal?
Quackers
(2,256 posts)Just because it may be legal or illegal federally, doesn't mean states won't try to manipulate it. The worse that can happen to them is their law is overturned in federal court.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)it was a key part of efforts to resist civil rights law. It failed then, it will fail now.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Mister Ed
(5,943 posts)...or you can expect to see plenty more of this in the future.
If the Republicans have the House and the Senate, two-thirds of the statehouses and governor's mansions, and a president with carte blanche to get his Supreme Court nominees approved, then you can say Sayonara to women's rights and much, much more, for generations to come.
lindysalsagal
(20,718 posts)Not a HRC supporter, but we just cannot hand this world over to the ape with the bad combover.
Ilsa
(61,696 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)It's got a lot of competition.
harrose
(380 posts)Please?????