GOP Code Message Elect Us And We Will End All Pensions Immediately

[TheMastersNemesis]

What the GOP is saying is that they will stop all the checks for pensions, Social Security, Medicare and any government checks as soon as they take power. They believe these "entitlements" that are welfare on the taxpayer. Then the job creators will have all the money they need to start a new "age of prosperity" by ending all taxes on businesses and the rich like Kansas just did. With no regulations as well millions of jobs will be automatically created.

The GOP is now totally open about their "scorched earth" agenda because they are emboldened by the Wisconsin outcome. You heard Christie we have to get rid of all the government workers. And they are serious. And they expect the police to bash heads of anyone who resists. That is the police and fire fighters are expected to protect the same politicians who will lay them off and take their pensions.

Things are really getting screwy.

[B Calm]

1. Elect us and will do away with labor

unions and the middle class.

[sendero]

2. Come on..

....do you REALLY believe that nonsense?

It would be a DREAM COME TRUE. If they did that, their actions would soon be reversed and THEY WOULD BE OUT OF POWER FOR DECADES.

Please, throw me in that briar patch.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

12. Oh they would have a little war to take the voters mind off it

[A Simple Game]

15. "their actions would soon be reversed" Are you sure?

Please tell me about the last legislative action that was reversed.

[sendero]

20. I am of the opinion..

... that at some point people will get fed up.

As of now, very few folks' ox has been gored. There has been no change to SS, unemployment benefits, etc.

I truly believe that if real current cuts to SS were made, one of the most powerful voting blocs ever, senior citizen, would be outraged.

Now, I could be wrong. Nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

[BiggJawn]

3. Because of the disconnect in Bubba Murika, you're probably right.

Example? The old one-legged diabetic at a Teabagger rally on a Hoveround with an oxygen bottle (all Medicare-supplied) holding a sign reading "Get Goverment outta my Hellth Car!"

[geckosfeet]

4. "Entitlements" that we have paid into over time.

This is outright thievery. Stealing what is ours.

People are so fucking stupid.

[NNN0LHI]

5. And they wouldn't be saying it if they knew their wasn't an audience for it

Hell, Reagan won by a landslide twice with the same message.

Amazing isn't it?

Don

[annabanana]

6. By turning people against each other they've demonized ALL public workers.

Rmoney actually said "We don't need more firemen. We don't need more teachers."

Envy and Fear will drive this election cycle. If I can't live with financial security NEITHER CAN YOU

http://www.alternet.org/story/155806/the_right%27s_new_tactic_to_pit_the_middle_class_against_itself?akid=8913.71875.UXBHMI&rd=1&t=8

In the Bible Belt, Republicans have long been able to divide working people (by that I mean anyone who depends on an earned paycheck to stay afloat) on social issues — gay rights and abortion. In the Rust Belt and Grain Belt, that’s been a bit harder, as there is a strong “live and let live” ethic in the Midwest. We like our neighbors and tend to accept, if not value, our differences. We also like our pulpits free of politics; we prefer preachers to be soft-spoken and potlucks are often more important than politics. The overwhelming support for President Obama in Wisconsin in 2008 (he won some very conservative rural counties) proved all that.

What the deep pockets and political might of Scott Walker — and other Midwestern Republican governors — signal is a troubling new trend: There is now a new way for the rich, ruling class to use fear and envy to divide the American middle class, a strategy that doesn’t even need to use the traditional wedge issue of religion.

As Wisconsin’s new political landscape so clearly indicates, conservatives have now managed to vilify plain old working people as elitist fat cats. Librarians, teachers, public employees, and union laborers: Basically, people who earn health insurance and decent wages have suddenly become the things that stagnate an economy and raise taxes, when in truth they, and those wages they enjoy, have been the lifeblood of a struggling post-industrial economy.

But by declaring war on teachers, union laborers, and public sector employees, the well-heeled spinners behind the rise of Scott Walker have managed to make struggling Americans vote against their own best interests out of a sense of fear and envy. Struggling workers — and most comfortable middle-class workers — often to need an identifiable villain, someone who is holding them back from success, in order to vote Republican. If Republicans can present themselves as an enemy of that villain, they win. That’s what happened happened last night in Wisconsin.

[Jackpine Radical]

19. This is a large part of how Walker won:

"Envy and Fear will drive this election cycle. If I can't live with financial security NEITHER CAN YOU"

[greytdemocrat]

7. Ya know...

You don't have to do "Cred" posts anymore. This just looks silly.

[RZM]

8. You're really arguing this?

That all pensions, SS, Medicare, and 'any government checks' will be stopped by a Republican administration?

Nobody's denying that the Republicans are more hostile to all of these things than the Democrats. But if you seriously believe that medicare and SS would just stop overnight, you really need to rejoin us here in reality.

[riverwalker]

9. you are correct

hell, the RW would take it further, make it retroactive. Liens on houses and savings to anyone who has ever recieved benefits, even after they are dead.
They already do it for medicaid.

[TheMastersNemesis]

10. If You Think I Am Kidding You Are Not Paying Attention

When they cheer about someone dying because they can't get health care. And when they are saying directly that they want to end Medicare as we know it and vote for the Ryan Budget twice which will cut vets benefits by $11 billion and so on and so on. And the GOP in Kansas actually passes a bill the ends taxes for businesses and the rich, I wonder if we should be taking them seriously.

When a party puts an economic gun in your face how are you to respond. Oh you are just joking. I stand by my post.

[Do it Right]

16. You are absolutely correct about the rethugs agenda for this country

It isn't about the idiots that are bought and paid for by corporate interest.....its about the idiot voters that put these assholes in power to fuck everyone. They aren't just coming after dems...they are coming after everyone that may have a chance with this President. It took Bush and the rethugs 8 years to screw this country up and now they want to blame Obama for not correcting it in 3 years (without mentioning Bush's name). I fear that this country is headed for the biggest BLOODBATH in UNITED STATES HISTORY.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. GOP voters love voting against themselves

until they get to the doctor's office and they said sorry there's no Medicare that will be $1800 please.

[Bjorn Against]

13. Except for their own of course

Congress has some of the best pension plans out there, but when they talk about cutting back the pension plans of government workers they are usually not volunteering to have their own pensions cut. They are hypocrites and need to be called on their hypocrisy.

[Loki]

14. I'm waiting for one of the crazies to propose

that workers should not expect paid vacations, paid sick leave or paid holidays..sacrifice for the corporations that employ you is a good thing. They can then afford to keep your position and you have the honor of working for them. Oh and that 40 hour work week with benefits, doesn't fit into our corporate model. I don't want my prediction to come to pass but those rat fuckers will stop at nothing and the people who keep voting them into power will make all of us suffer for their stupidity.

[Gold Metal Flake]

17. The people around me believe all that you wrote will happen and it will be good.

Yes, even the ones in unions. The guy in the Teamsters, the guy working for Lockheed and near retirement, the plumber too physically damaged to work with no insurance and not on disability. They all favor the Republican stories of being victimized by unions (seriously, no shit), greedy overpaid public workers and of course brown people on any public assistance (the greatest enemy). They hate that anyone should be getting something but not working for it, but refuse to hear and criticism of the rich.

These are three of my neighbors. I've known them over a decade. Nothing penetrates.

Look, this bullshit runs deep in these people. Nothing will change their minds until they all lose everything they have, which of course means we all lose what we have. Even then, they will blame liberals and brown people.

I have yet to see any suggested changes that will actually work on these very stupid, self-destructive and self-deluded, hate-filled people who vote and vote and vote.

When they hit rock bottom, we ALL hit rock bottom.

So, show me a real plan.

[SunSeeker]

18. Inland CA is redder than any red state.

Fortunately, it is sparsely populated, like most red states, so their vote generally does not affect CA statewide elections. But you are absolutely right. They are crazy teabaggers who vote against their own interest because they have Fox News blaring in their homes 24/7. My in-laws are among them.

[freshwest]

21. Pretty much. Work until you drop dead or you're a burden on society.

Consistent with their worthless mouths and parasites terms for the poor, elderly and the disabled from any cause. Run fast, run strong or be devoured by wolves.

Because you're just livestock and all that sentimental stuff is just bleeding heart liberalism, destroying liberty.

How's that for all the memes rolled into one stinking pile. We can decide to do another thing with the future, but probably won't.

[hughee99]

22. I think you're misunderstanding their coded message...

it's "Elect us and we'll kill anyone who requires government assistance, steal all your money, and kick your dog." The great part about the "secret code" is that no one knows what the code is, so you can say anything and can't be proven wrong. Hurray!