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Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 05:44 PM Jun 2012

Business Insider: Here's What's Really Happened To The Private Sector Under Obama

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-private-sector-and-the-public-sector-under-obama-2012-6#

So Obama made a pretty big "gaffe." He said that the private sector was doing "fine."
Here's the full quote, via WSJ:

"The truth of the matter is that … we've created 4.3 million jobs over the last 27 months, over 800,000 just this year alone ... The private sector is doing fine. Where we're seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government," which, he said, isn't getting the support it needs from Washington.

Given that unemployment is over 8 percent, and Q2 GDP is tracking at less than 2 percent, saying that any part of the economy is "fine" looks wildly out of touch, and Republicans are lambasting him for it.

Obama has already backtracked, but is what he said true?

Let's go to the charts!


You'll find all the charts at the links, and they're fantastic. The private sector isn't just doing fine, it's never been better. It's the public sector that's the drag on the economy, which isn't doing fine at all.
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Business Insider: Here's What's Really Happened To The Private Sector Under Obama (Original Post) Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 OP
The original source is Mike Norman. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #1
Cool! Thanks. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #2
Great find! This should be required reading for any Obama supporter. banned from Kos Jun 2012 #3
Great charts! Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #4
It doesn't matter anymore. If the howling of the Repubs & the Corporate media aren't screeched down annabanana Jun 2012 #5
Exactly! SunSeeker Jun 2012 #6
The Private Sector and the Public Sector are tied together. RC Jun 2012 #7
In the economy. The economy overall is not doing fine. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #8
It wasn't the private sectors fault nineteen50 Jun 2012 #11
The private sector is anyone not working for any of the governments. RC Jun 2012 #15
Unfortunately the president backtracked (as usual) Doctor_J Jun 2012 #9
What BS. Look at chart #6 of the 24 cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #10
yes nineteen50 Jun 2012 #12
How unusual. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #13
one can lead a horse to water but cannot make it drink. banned from Kos Jun 2012 #14
A kick for Sunday. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #16

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
5. It doesn't matter anymore. If the howling of the Repubs & the Corporate media aren't screeched down
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 06:13 PM
Jun 2012

within the first half hour of their braying. . they own the news cycle.

Rove has made truth irrelevant.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
7. The Private Sector and the Public Sector are tied together.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 07:15 PM
Jun 2012

Both support jobs and families. If one is not doing well, neither is the other.
During bad times it is the Public Sector (Government wiht jobs), that needs to support the Private Sector, till things get better. That is not happening very well. So how can the Private Sector (Living Wage Jobs anybody?) be doing fine, Charts or no charts?

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
8. In the economy. The economy overall is not doing fine.
Reply to RC (Reply #7)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 07:23 PM
Jun 2012

But it's not the private sector's fault. That's what the charts show.

If you want to define the private sector as people with living wage jobs, though I don't know anyone else who would do that, then, no, the private sector is very small and not growing well.

And a living wage job should be the standard we reach for. Saying that something is doing fine doesn't mean it couldn't be better.

nineteen50

(1,187 posts)
11. It wasn't the private sectors fault
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:12 PM
Jun 2012

it was the teachers, fireman, policeman retired and all public workers that crashed the economy. It was the government that transferred the private sector losses to the public sector while the bankers got the bonuses.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
15. The private sector is anyone not working for any of the governments.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 11:46 PM
Jun 2012

Federal, State or local, regardless of what they are paid. The problem is at the Federal Level, namely Congress. The Obama Administration could be doing a better job kick starting things also. The government needs to rein in the big corporations and financial institutions. Raise the minimum wage to somewhere between $10 to $12 an hour. Get some money circulating in the economy to help businesses get going again.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. Unfortunately the president backtracked (as usual)
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 09:42 PM
Jun 2012

instead of reeling off his job numbers compared to the Dallas Dunce. Trudeau needs to use some sort of back track for his Obama image.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
10. What BS. Look at chart #6 of the 24
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 09:57 PM
Jun 2012

The private sector is not the least bit fine in terms of job creation, the topic of the president's comment.

Though it's wonderful that corporate profits have never been higher... I guess.

Is a good Democrat now required to believe, despite the evidence, that the private sector (the job creators...) are creating a lot of jobs?

Bolo Boffin

(23,796 posts)
13. How unusual.
Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:16 PM
Jun 2012

As chart #6 says, private sector employment is off its old highs, but as a closeup chart (#7) shows, private sector employment has recovered and is above the levels it was at when Barack Obama took office.

Good Democrat or bad's got nothing to do with it. It's just the facts, cthulu2016. Private sector job growth is back on the right track and growing.

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