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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:05 AM Jun 2016

There's no way around it. Donald Trump has already inflicted a lot of damage

I get being gleeful over what he's done and is doing to the republican party. Never has it been truer that you reap what you sow. The republican party is reaping the hate they sowed, the division they sowed and the indifference to suffering they sowed. But so is the entire country.

Trump has unleashed the ugly id that was already in breakout mode. Maybe there is a silver lining but I so dread the next few months.

I wish he'd just... vanish into thin air. I really do.

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BootinUp

(47,188 posts)
1. Their hateful coalition has done a lot more damage since the
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:10 AM
Jun 2016

80's. There is no question about whether outing it fully is good or bad. Its all good.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. It's all good? No. It is not. Some bells cannot be unrung and some things
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jun 2016

should remain unsaid.

BootinUp

(47,188 posts)
9. An epic loss in November is going to be the result. The R brand damaged
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jun 2016

for years. I just don't see it your way at all. The hate must be exposed so it can be rejected.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
2. I hear what you are saying but I think the upside is...
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:12 AM
Jun 2016

that the nation has a chance to reject the haters, bigots and racist among us and deny them the influence that they have had in our government for years.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
3. He is the biggest danger to our democracy, AND our very way-of-life, in my lifetime
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jun 2016

I spent a chunk of yesterday trying to convince:

a) some Senator Sanders supporters that this election is too important to sit out or protest-vote against the presumptive nominee. It was an epic fail.

b) some Secretary Clinton supporters that this election is too important to denigrate and alienate Senator Sanders supporters to the point of risking those potential votes for the Secretary. It, too, was an epic fail.

JHB

(37,162 posts)
6. Donald can only do what Republican primary voters empowered him to do
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:15 AM
Jun 2016

Whereas the Republican establishment, who built their power on exploiting these people, has been setting this up for decades.

nruthie

(466 posts)
10. You said it.
Sun Jun 19, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jun 2016

Such a vile person. Everything loathsome and ugly all wrapped up in one horrible package. He is pure evil.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. I agree. It could be like 1964.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:58 PM
Jun 2016

That election, with a Republican nominee who was anathema even to many lifelong Republicans, was an epic GOP wipeout. Goldwater lost by a record or near-record margin, and the Democratic wave pulled in many House and Senate candidates. Some people asked if the Republican Party would ever elect a President again.

Well, the party did elect a President again, in the very next election in fact. Furthermore, it's likely that Goldwater's extreme right-wing candidacy, although unsuccessful in 1964, helped pave the way for Reagan's win in 1980.

This year, it would be nice if Trump not only got clobbered, but took enough other Republicans down with him to give us Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress. Even if that happens, though, it could turn out in the long run that Trump has indeed unleashed an ugly id, which a smoother candidate might then tap for a successful run.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
13. We need a sweep that takes back state legislatures tok
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jun 2016

In states like here in NC they have been setting the stage to keep the Rethugs in power nationally with gerrymandering and voter suppression laws, and unless we turn that tide in a lot of states they will set the stage for us to be totally screwed.

We need to swing a lot of states by 2020 so the next redistributing run doesn't let them entrench safe districts for another decade.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
12. If I was a Romney/Ryan/Huntsman/etc Republican,
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jun 2016

I wouldn't want to be associated with the racist mouth-breathers that follow Trump. I wouldn't want to vote the way they do, big tent or not.

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