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Can someone explain Justice Sotomayor's dissent on the SCOTUS gun ruling? (Original Post) Jitter65 Jun 2016 OP
This WaPo piece might help IronLionZion Jun 2016 #1
The issues where she agreed, from a quick reading: elleng Jun 2016 #2
She and Thomas think the law is too braod. mr_liberal Jun 2016 #3
Thanks. nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #4
It was a highly technical court case. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #5
Actually Not True-There Was an Amicus Brief Filed by Several Guns Rights Non-Profits Stallion Jun 2016 #7
No actual party in the case was arguing that. So yes, it's true. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #8
This Statement Was Incorrect Stallion Jun 2016 #9
No one in the actual case at hand. So no it isn't incorrect. NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #10
Read this djg21 Jun 2016 #6

elleng

(132,062 posts)
2. The issues where she agreed, from a quick reading:
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jun 2016

'To qualify as a “‘misdemeanor crime of domestic violence,’”
the Maine assault statute must have as an element
the “use of physical force.” §921(a)(33)(A)(ii). Be-cause mere recklessness is sufficient to sustain a conviction
under §207, a conviction does not necessarily involve
the “use” of physical force, and thus, does not trigger
§922(g)(9)’s prohibition on firearm possession. . .

The second category involves a person who intentionally
unleashes force that recklessly causes injury.'

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-10154_19m1.pdf

Looks like she's reading very literally. I don't know why.

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
3. She and Thomas think the law is too braod.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jun 2016

For example, you could lose you gun rights for life just for something like a Mother slapping her son for talking back or something like that.

Id have to read the law in depth but if it is like that I think I agree that it is too broad. Im surprised that it was upheld.

NutmegYankee

(16,229 posts)
5. It was a highly technical court case.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jun 2016

No one was challenging that domestic abusers can be denied gun ownership as a penalty for the crime. What was challenged was that Domestic violence under federal law appeared to require an intentional domestic violence act, whereas in Maine reckless or negligent behavior that resulted in a domestic injury also is considered domestic violence.

Sotomayor agreed that the domestic violence had to be an intentional act, and not an act of negligence or reckless behavior.

Stallion

(6,477 posts)
7. Actually Not True-There Was an Amicus Brief Filed by Several Guns Rights Non-Profits
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jun 2016

that argued that Federal Government can't restrict a 2nd Amendment Right to Bear Arms-that it is essentially absolute

Stallion

(6,477 posts)
9. This Statement Was Incorrect
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jun 2016

"No one was challenging that domestic abusers can be denied gun ownership as a penalty for the crime"

NutmegYankee

(16,229 posts)
10. No one in the actual case at hand. So no it isn't incorrect.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:20 AM
Jun 2016

There are always some nuts on the fringe of every issue that are discounted. The discussion here was about the justice and the case at hand.

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