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mainer

(12,022 posts)
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 10:18 AM Jun 2012

How many of you knew "God" was a recent addition to our currency and the pledge?

This morning, at breakfast with my very well-educated friends (all atheists), they were surprised when I said that use of the word "God" on our currency and in the Pledge of Allegiance is a recent addition. Which led me to wonder how many DUers, who are so well informed, were equally unaware of these tidbits:

"In God We Trust" added in 1956: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_we_trust

"In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956 as an alternative or replacement to the unofficial motto of E pluribus unum, adopted when the Great Seal of the United States was created and adopted in 1782.[1][2]


Pledge of Allegiance and "under God" addition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

The phrase "under God" was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance June 14, 1954, by a Joint Resolution of Congress amending §7 of the Flag Code enacted in 1942.[14]



And, in fact, "God" doesn't appear in the Constitution except as part of the signatory date:
http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#god

"It has often been seen on the Internet that to find God in the Constitution, all one has to do is read it, and see how often the Framers used the words "God," or "Creator," "Jesus," or "Lord." Except for one notable instance, however, none of these words ever appears in the Constitution, neither the original nor in any of the Amendments. The notable exception is found in the Signatory section, where the date is written thusly: "Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven". The use of the word "Lord" here is not a religious reference, however. This was a common way of expressing the date, in both religious and secular contexts. This lack of any these words does not mean that the Framers were not spiritual people, any more than the use of the word Lord means that they were. What this lack of these words is expositive of is not a love for or disdain for religion, but the feeling that the new government should not involve itself in matters of religion. In fact, the original Constitution bars any religious test to hold any federal office in the United States."

So next time you hear Sarah Palin blabber about how the Founding Fathers wrote "One nation under God" in the Constitution, you'll know just what an idiot she is.

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How many of you knew "God" was a recent addition to our currency and the pledge? (Original Post) mainer Jun 2012 OP
Yep! Iris Jun 2012 #1
I did. From the same charming period where "In God We Trust" was made a regular feature on money... JHB Jun 2012 #2
In God We Trust was first used on American coins in 1864 Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #3
True, but added to paper currency far more recently: mainer Jun 2012 #13
"In God we trust has appeared sporadically on U.S. coins since 1864" Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #17
Mainer - are you trying to confuse people with facts? jillan Jun 2012 #4
I remember the change to the pledge.... jdadd Jun 2012 #5
So do I. I was in high school and obediently recited it. n/t RebelOne Jun 2012 #14
It was part of McCarthyism and anti-communist fervor. kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #6
I did. But then I'm an egghead commie elitist. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #7
I did, but that's because I prefer American history to American "heritage" Tom Ripley Jun 2012 #8
If you're a coin collector you know. ileus Jun 2012 #9
Apparently you do not collect the coins described in post #3. former9thward Jun 2012 #10
It's really nice to watch an old movie with a classroom scene. No "god" crap in the pledge. Gregorian Jun 2012 #11
Oh yes, it was one of our responses to the Godless Communists! rustydog Jun 2012 #12
I learned this fact at DU. nt PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #15
Yes, and I also knew the Pledge's author was a socialist. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #16
I did, but only after 10th grade. sakabatou Jun 2012 #18

JHB

(37,161 posts)
2. I did. From the same charming period where "In God We Trust" was made a regular feature on money...
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 10:29 AM
Jun 2012

...and Georgia changed its state flag to incorporate the Confederate Battle Flag.

The age of "We'll show those people who's boss!"

Somehow we managed to win WW2 without being "under God". Probably the same way the Constitution was written without mentioning him either.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
3. In God We Trust was first used on American coins in 1864
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 10:42 AM
Jun 2012

This is the first US coin to carry that motto, the short-lived 2-cent piece:



In 1866, its use was made mandatory on all silver coins above 10 cents in face value, and all gold coins above $3 in face value.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
13. True, but added to paper currency far more recently:
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:33 PM
Jun 2012

and certainly not in the time of the Founding Fathers:

"In God we trust" was adopted as the official motto of the United States in 1956 as an alternative or replacement to the unofficial motto of E pluribus unum, adopted when the Great Seal of the United States was created and adopted in 1782.[1][2]

In God we trust has appeared sporadically on U.S. coins since 1864[3] and on paper currency since 1957.[3]

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
17. "In God we trust has appeared sporadically on U.S. coins since 1864"
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 11:19 PM
Jun 2012

Actually, it has appeared on all US coins since 1938, and all coins except the 5-cent coin since 1916. It has appeared on at least half of all newly minted US coins since 1866, with most exceptions made in the early days because of space limitations.

jdadd

(1,314 posts)
5. I remember the change to the pledge....
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 11:00 AM
Jun 2012

I was in first grade, We had to recite it every morning. When the change was made official, there were a lot of confused first graders....

ileus

(15,396 posts)
9. If you're a coin collector you know.
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jun 2012

One of the first things you'll learn....unless you collect modern junk.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
12. Oh yes, it was one of our responses to the Godless Communists!
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jun 2012

In God we trust, Republicans, not so much...

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