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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:15 PM Jul 2016

Wow, just wow. He had that whole enormous and raucous crowd in the palm of his hand.

Not the soaring flights of rhetoric of an Obama, but a masterfully sincere speaker.

Frankly, better than Hills. We all know it. She's just less at ease in front of a crowd.

HE IS THE PERFECT COMPLEMENT TO HER. They will make a kick-ass combo.

So happy with her choice.

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Wow, just wow. He had that whole enormous and raucous crowd in the palm of his hand. (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 OP
This is how he won every election in virginia gwheezie Jul 2016 #1
Yep. 5-0 in elections underpants Jul 2016 #59
This roll out will quiet a lot of naysayers redstateblues Jul 2016 #2
Take this kind of infectious enthusiasm on the GE campaign trail, and Nov. 8 will be a big blue tide. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #3
Bernie people Marty 65 Jul 2016 #41
Must be quite entertaining...look anything like this? Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #64
More Bernie hate. tecelote Jul 2016 #72
complement.....I compliment you on your thread! that was SO refreshing, wasn't it? Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #4
Blushing former English teacher here. Spell-check doesn't catch usage gaffs! LOL! Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #5
between that and the onerous autocomplete, it's enough to drive one Trump! Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #6
OMG! You should put up a warning for that! Jeezus, that's enough to give Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #8
even this guy? Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #13
God, GOPers surely are an ugly bunch... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #16
the face too often reveals the soul within Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #18
A mirror of the true-Self within, alive or dead. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #19
How does one live awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #34
Guy wearing Oakley's in background Throckmorton Jul 2016 #75
Isn't it strange that they are? LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #25
I'm pretty sure it is used correctly... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #58
Interesting. LWolf Jul 2016 #7
Well, the Bernie or Bust people will soon have to decide where their real priorities lie, I guess. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #9
They aren't Bernie or Bust people. LWolf Jul 2016 #12
I can't imagine any Dem who watched Kaine's speech in Miami today claiming he is a "disaster." SunSeeker Jul 2016 #17
Oh, dear. LWolf Jul 2016 #36
It was his positions, history and record that he described in that speech that made it so good. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #38
He's going to be dynamite in Texas. okasha Jul 2016 #39
Well then, LWolf Jul 2016 #42
I'm guessing there is nothing Kaine can say or do that will make you happy. nt SunSeeker Jul 2016 #62
Oh, of course there are. LWolf Jul 2016 #74
Oh, dear.... sheshe2 Jul 2016 #63
"Bernie or Bust" in the sense of being unwilling to consider anything but THEIR stated preference, Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #20
I've heard way more LWolf Jul 2016 #35
One person's ostensible "mischaracterization" may very well be a well-founded, Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #37
Sure. LWolf Jul 2016 #40
In the immortal words of Rhett Butler, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #43
Noted. nt LWolf Jul 2016 #44
Dear Lighthouse and Rules Committee, Will Morningstar Jul 2016 #46
... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #47
Thanks for the vocabulary. To spell it out for you, Will Morningstar Jul 2016 #49
Well, alrighty then. Hope your scrutiny of us continues to enlighten. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #51
Better to open the light than to curse the darkness. Will Morningstar Jul 2016 #54
wow, really? Politicub Jul 2016 #26
I agree! cwydro Jul 2016 #10
Let's peek in the WayBack Machine: How did that DRUMPF-PENCE rollout play, again?!1 n/t UTUSN Jul 2016 #11
Yeah, somebody should do a side by side compilation like with Melania and Michelle. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #22
Yes indeed!! SunSeeker Jul 2016 #14
Fantastic! Justice Jul 2016 #15
I agree completely. DavidDvorkin Jul 2016 #21
She's best with policy speeches before large groups, and in small groups spooky3 Jul 2016 #23
She's brilliant in a more intimate townhall setting. Fielding questions and responding to queries. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #24
Yes! Her Sister Jul 2016 #27
A very winning ticket we got us DEMS! Her Sister Jul 2016 #28
I couldn't believe how damn good he was, from all POV. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #29
Brilliant that she did not by-pass him! Even though people said he was blah blah blah! Her Sister Jul 2016 #32
I love a woman who knows her own mind and who trusts her 6th sense. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #33
... Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 #30
i didn't know what to expect..did great! spanone Jul 2016 #31
I am totally sold on Kaine. avebury Jul 2016 #45
Same here. I love his genuine voice and inspiring life story. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #48
I can see President Kaine in his future. nt avebury Jul 2016 #50
Find Hillary's speech from Tampa from yesterday. Several times she brought up the Orlando victims riversedge Jul 2016 #52
I'm off to beddy-by now, But, will look that up on YouTube tomorrow. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #55
That one speech alone sold me. I'm 110% on board the Clinton/Kaine train! Amazing speech BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #53
I was in the room! Callmecrazy Jul 2016 #56
How did you wangle tickets? Lucky Miamians!!! Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #65
Lucky you! writes3000 Jul 2016 #66
He is a tremendous speaker. He has shades of Bill Clinton when it comes to speaking. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #57
The overarching theme of our ticket is "QUALIFIED" IronLionZion Jul 2016 #60
Everyone of our Dems have their own unique qualities, Surya~ Cha Jul 2016 #61
He inspires TOTAL trust through his words and manner. A modest, but supremely confident LEADER. Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #67
I knew it was going to be good today in Miami!.. just from seeing a couple Cha Jul 2016 #68
Even saw the guy being compared to Joe "Hangdog" Lieberman, fer crissakes! Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #69
I saw that.. omg! So yeah, crap like makes you wonder when you've never heard him before! Cha Jul 2016 #70
A modest, unassuming hero. Walking the talk of his deep faith. Great tribute... Surya Gayatri Jul 2016 #71
"Not the soaring flights of rhetoric of an Obama, but a masterfully sincere speaker." Stellar Jul 2016 #73

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
1. This is how he won every election in virginia
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:17 PM
Jul 2016

He smiles a lot, never curses or gets belligerent but he can cut an opponent down.

underpants

(182,279 posts)
59. Yep. 5-0 in elections
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:29 PM
Jul 2016

Richmond City Councilman
Mayor of Richmond (voted by his other council members not the general public)
Lt. Gov
Governor
US Senate


Something I posted a few days ago

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
2. This roll out will quiet a lot of naysayers
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jul 2016

This guy is ultimately qualified to be CIC. A great pick by Hill!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
3. Take this kind of infectious enthusiasm on the GE campaign trail, and Nov. 8 will be a big blue tide.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jul 2016

YES, SHE KAINE! YES, SHE KAINE! YES, SHE KAINE! YES, SHE KAINE! YES, SHE KAINE! YES, SHE KAINE!

Marty 65

(5 posts)
41. Bernie people
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jul 2016

They are in total meltdown mode over on Alternet. I think many are Trump trolls but they can't all be.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
64. Must be quite entertaining...look anything like this?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 03:56 AM
Jul 2016


They'll get over it, or maybe not. Who gives a monkey's toss?



Thanks EVER so much for being the bearer of news from the Alternet Bernie Bunch.

And, enjoy your stay at DU.
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
4. complement.....I compliment you on your thread! that was SO refreshing, wasn't it?
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jul 2016

the idea of a campaign consisting at least partially on positivity, on actual issue oriented statements looked to be a thing of the past, didn't it?

so happy at this moment

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
58. I'm pretty sure it is used correctly...
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jul 2016

Kaine complements Hillary as in he adds to the campaign in areas that she is weak in.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
7. Interesting.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jul 2016

I'm listening right now to a bunch of delegates not being allowed into the room where the rules committee is working.

The delegates being interviewed, heard over very loud, chanting protests, are clearly split. Every Sanders delegate interviewed so far says Kaine is a disaster. Every Clinton supporter interviewed says Kaine is great.

It's clear that, at least for the delegates in that hallway, unity has not yet been achieved.

Except in the case of Trump; there IS unity on the need to defeat him.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. Well, the Bernie or Bust people will soon have to decide where their real priorities lie, I guess.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:37 PM
Jul 2016

This is the ticket. Point, finale.

A Trump defeat is only going to come through this ticket. No do-overs.

And, just in passing, they couldn't be more wrong. NO DISASTER, this guy.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
12. They aren't Bernie or Bust people.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jul 2016

They are delegates to the convention, not allowed into the room. Some Clinton delegates out there, too, because the room is too small, and they didn't choose to go with one of the empty convention rooms upstairs that would hold them all.

I am simply telling you what I'm watching, and you are simply proving what I'm saying about the division over Kaine.

SunSeeker

(51,378 posts)
17. I can't imagine any Dem who watched Kaine's speech in Miami today claiming he is a "disaster."
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jul 2016

Those delegates need to watch that speech.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017393407

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
36. Oh, dear.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jul 2016

First of all, it's not speeches, but position and record, that determine whether or not a candidate gets approval for many of us, and I sure as hell hope for delegates.

Second, that's exactly what that particular word, "disaster," was based on. Not on talk, but walk.

SunSeeker

(51,378 posts)
38. It was his positions, history and record that he described in that speech that made it so good.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jul 2016

Plus the way he delivered it, the whole package.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
39. He's going to be dynamite in Texas.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jul 2016

Something interesting--his accent is better when he's speaking Spanish extemporaneously than when he's reading a prepared speech. The fire comes through.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
42. Well then,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jul 2016

apparently his history and record don't resonate with many. I suppose it could be accurate to say that the party is not unified on the issues.

Again, as I pointed out somewhere today, while Democrats are unified in the need to defeat Trump, there is no unity at this point when it comes to perception of Tim Kaine.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
74. Oh, of course there are.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jul 2016

It's very unlikely that I will hear the things that would make me "happy," but he could, if she'd let him. It would mean reversing himself on several issues, though.

For the record: I'm not "unhappy" with him, even if I don't much like him. It's not like he's going to effect much change as VP. There are only 2 things that could happen that would leave me "unhappy" about Kaine.

First, should HRC win in November, something bad could happen while she's in office, putting Kaine in charge. That would make me unhappy.

Second, should HRC make it through two terms, a bunch of people might think he was the next nominee to be crowned. That would make me unhappy.

For the rest? I'm neutral. I expected a neo-liberal pick. As long as he doesn't affect policy, and as long as he isn't elected to an office that does affect policy when he's done with Clinton, I've got no problem with him.

sheshe2

(83,355 posts)
63. Oh, dear....
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 01:40 AM
Jul 2016

He has the position and he has the record. You didn't bother to listen. We await your approval after you truly listen to the words.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
20. "Bernie or Bust" in the sense of being unwilling to consider anything but THEIR stated preference,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jul 2016

in this case E. Warren or S. Brown for VP.

Will they vote for the ticket even though they didn't get their way? Remains to be seen.

If not, then we can only qualify them as "Bernie or Bust".

Cornell West? Nina Turner? Who can say...

In any case, everyone else is moving on.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
35. I've heard way more
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jul 2016

Bernie supporters opposing Warren for VP, and I haven't heard anything at all about Brown.

I'm betting that, as a Sanders supporter myself, I probably talk to and listen to more of us than you do.

But keep "mischaracterizing" us...I'm sure it will help.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
37. One person's ostensible "mischaracterization" may very well be a well-founded,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jul 2016

reality-based depiction of observed behavior for another.

YMMV.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
40. Sure.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jul 2016

Who do you think spends more time talking to and listening to more Sanders supporters; you, or I?

Who is likely to have experienced a larger sample?

 

Will Morningstar

(90 posts)
46. Dear Lighthouse and Rules Committee,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:25 PM
Jul 2016

It's fascinating to watch this process play out before my eyes. When I was somewhat where you are, we didn't have Usenet groups providing blow-by-blow reports on events as they unfold.

I am reassured by your positive attitudes and your obvious sincere desire to find the common ground upon which we all must stand. This is our first, best, and only chance for a generation to return government of, by, and for us people to its rightful role as protector of the weak against the strong. Please bear this in mind in your deliberations.

 

Will Morningstar

(90 posts)
49. Thanks for the vocabulary. To spell it out for you,
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jul 2016

I've been watching you Hillary guys and Bernie guys circling each other for some months. Now that it's down to the short strokes, I'm happy just to see you keeping civil tongues in your heads. You're not insulting or mischaracterising each other. And you're not the only ones. I've been watching this board for three days. I'm impressed by what I've seen, without exception.

There. Clear enough? I'm not known for using one word where nine will do.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
51. Well, alrighty then. Hope your scrutiny of us continues to enlighten.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jul 2016

There IS that old adage: "Brevity is the soul of wit".

Your first post brought it to mind.

Oh, and by the by, welcome to DU.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
22. Yeah, somebody should do a side by side compilation like with Melania and Michelle.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jul 2016

Devastating comparison.

spooky3

(34,303 posts)
23. She's best with policy speeches before large groups, and in small groups
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jul 2016

rather than emotional political campaign crowds.

That says more about us as having short attention spans, etc., than about her.

I agree with you about the complementarity--but they are also very similar in values.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
24. She's brilliant in a more intimate townhall setting. Fielding questions and responding to queries.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jul 2016

Kaine can hold a big crowd using a folksy, conversational tone. That's a gift...

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
28. A very winning ticket we got us DEMS!
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jul 2016

I knew to trust the nominee to choose HER running mate!

I like & believe in HER people skills & knew they will come in play when she was making this decision!

Just awesome!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
29. I couldn't believe how damn good he was, from all POV.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jul 2016

I'd never really heard him speak publicly before.

NOW I GET IT. Why he's so universally respected and such a favorite with the Obamas, the Clintons and even lots of Republicans.

Amazing man.

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
32. Brilliant that she did not by-pass him! Even though people said he was blah blah blah!
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jul 2016

Ah who cares what they say anymore! This duo is awesome!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
48. Same here. I love his genuine voice and inspiring life story.
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 08:50 PM
Jul 2016

His endearing humility and natural optimism are very admirable qualities, too.

I'm excited at the prospect of seeing him on the campaign trail.

riversedge

(69,727 posts)
52. Find Hillary's speech from Tampa from yesterday. Several times she brought up the Orlando victims
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:08 PM
Jul 2016

and others she spoke with prior to coming to Tampa. (she made a visit to Orlando). She spoke from the heart--somber. I agree with you on Kaine's speech.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
53. That one speech alone sold me. I'm 110% on board the Clinton/Kaine train! Amazing speech
Sat Jul 23, 2016, 09:11 PM
Jul 2016

and you're right - soaring flights of Obama-style rhetoric! No wonder he never lost an election! The man touches people inside their hearts! He touched mine!

IronLionZion

(45,261 posts)
60. The overarching theme of our ticket is "QUALIFIED"
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jul 2016

Both of them are definitely qualified to lead this country. Kaine's temperament puts people at ease and make a large amount of voters comfortable with his message and candidacy. There's not much to say against him. He's very naturally appealing to all types of people.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
61. Everyone of our Dems have their own unique qualities, Surya~
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 12:07 AM
Jul 2016

It's really wonderful to be so surprised by Sen Tim Kaine's!

They are a "perfect complement" to each other! Mahalo!


Hillary Clinton
✔ ?@HillaryClinton
I'm thrilled to announce my running mate, @TimKaine, a man who's devoted his life to fighting for others. -H
2:11 PM - 22 Jul 2016
27,723 27,723 Retweets 45,798 45,798 likes

And, now we're Thrilled!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
67. He inspires TOTAL trust through his words and manner. A modest, but supremely confident LEADER.
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:16 AM
Jul 2016

I knew next to nothing about the guy--just that he was well-respected.

BUT, NOW I GET THE ENTHUSIASM EXPRESSED BY SO MANY.

She aced her first major presidential decision with flying colors.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
68. I knew it was going to be good today in Miami!.. just from seeing a couple
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 04:42 AM
Jul 2016

of his vids last night.. the one on sensible gun laws in the Senate and the 13 minute one completely in Espanol on immigration.

I had never heard him speak before.. and there were too many on here voicing their opinions against it and they were Dems. I don't think they knew anymore than we did.

So I was bummed and then big Surprise!



 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
69. Even saw the guy being compared to Joe "Hangdog" Lieberman, fer crissakes!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:02 AM
Jul 2016

So, that speech was a complete and welcome wake-up call.

Small wonder he's never lost an election, that's all I can say. LOL!

Cha

(295,929 posts)
70. I saw that.. omg! So yeah, crap like makes you wonder when you've never heard him before!
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 05:12 AM
Jul 2016

Underpants is in Virginia and left this on my Tim Kaine thread.. local vid...



Underpants~http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2278788

Enjoy!

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
73. "Not the soaring flights of rhetoric of an Obama, but a masterfully sincere speaker."
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 08:16 AM
Jul 2016

Let's hope that it works.

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