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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's pretty sad about Bill Clinton
the obvious palsy he has in both hands...it was difficult to watch.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)because I was observing his hands and thinking how they're not tiny and stubby like Trump's. Didn't notice any palsy.
riversedge
(70,253 posts)montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)I was thinking the same thing! LOL
lilsourgoose
(92 posts)What's wrong with you? That's what you took away from the speech?
drthais
(870 posts)It was just an aside...
his speech was quite fabulous!
I just found it worrisome, that is all
Iggo
(47,561 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)So what? He's an old man. His mind is quit clearly every bit as sharp as ever and his political charisma is undimmed.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,761 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,751 posts)Two strokes, a quadruple bypass with complications. That was four years ago.
Now very near to 70.
Yesterday my faithful dog and I hiked on our daily five mile romp through the state park across the street from us. Came home had a short lunch, picked up my wife and headed out for a three hour kayak ride on the river also in the park.
Over the last three years+ we have not missed more than 15 days out of a year hiking those five daily. I live in SE Michigan, the summers are beautiful, the winters can get...interesting.
Guess I'm just blessed.
Peace to you
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,809 posts)Got that, kid?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,809 posts)Jeebus Kerist
Wherever it was, go back there.
63splitwindow
(2,657 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)One of the silliest OPs I've seen lately.
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)For god's sake,
BlueStateLib
(937 posts)Clinton said he was so relieved to find out he did not have Parkinsons, he didnt care how much it shook after that.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/18/bill-clinton-hand-tremor_n_2503432.html
chowder66
(9,074 posts)He got checked out when he first noticed it to rule out Parkinson's and is on record that he gets shaky hands when he gets tired. It worsens as you get older but it's nothing to worry about.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)like he says when he's tired. I noticed it at a young age probably because of all the years of working the graveyard shift. Sometimes it bugs me when I'm working on one of my cars.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,842 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)It's very common and not very serious.
drthais
(870 posts)glad someone here has some information about that...
and thank you for passing it along
3catwoman3
(24,013 posts)More in the left hand, and not all the time. When you are clinically trained, it is hard not to notice things, even when they are subtle.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,745 posts)It's hereditary in my family. My father had it, as did his mother and grandfather.
There are also medications that can cause hands to shake.
sinkingfeeling
(51,464 posts)him back in 1998, I almost fainted. Leave him alone.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)ah, never mind.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)thucythucy
(8,080 posts)Why?
I don't want to jump to conclusions, but discomfort at the sight of someone with a disability is one of those attitudinal barriers people in the movement have been fighting for generations. As with the LGBT community, the more people with disabilities come out into the public arena, and "normalize" disability, the better for those of us with disabilities and for society in general.
I can remember a time when someone out on the street in a power wheelchair drew expressions of shock, pity, even hostility. Today it's not nearly as big a deal, at least not in the major urban centers. We have to all do our best to get beyond those reactions, and the more public folks with disabilities are, the sooner that will happen.
Disability is a part of the human experience. Sooner or later most everyone will become disabled. Hopefully, when it happens to you, we'll have progressed enough as a society so that people won't see you as "sad" and "difficult to watch."
BTW, David Brooks on PBS thought Clinton's use of his hands was "beautiful." I'd have to agree.
Best wishes.
3catwoman3
(24,013 posts)...the frustration that coping with a disability can cause.
Just a couple of days ago, I was walking at an indoor track. A young man in a motorized wheel chair came in, accompanied by 2 adults who looked to be care takers rather than parents. He looked as if he has one of the degenerative neuromuscular diseases like muscular dystrophy. He was painfully thin. His 2 attendants helped him grasp a walker fitted with forearm supports. Over several minutes, and with multiple pauses, he managed to cover about 40 feet.
I passed by several times during his efforts, and I felt uncomfortable watching him struggle to do something I can do without even thinking about it - walk. I felt as if I were flaunting my able-bodied status.
thucythucy
(8,080 posts)But I've often run into situations where the mere presence of a person with a disability, whether or not he or she was obviously in pain or struggling, provoked a measure of discomfort and embarrassment (and sometimes, especially years back, simple amazement) out of all proportion to the specific situation.
Anyway, I certainly didn't see President Clinton as someone obviously in pain or struggling. It looked to me like he was absolutely enjoying himself, disability or no disability. Which is why the notion that simply seeing him on TV would make someone sad and uncomfortable has me wondering.
I wonder too about the person you saw. Knowing very many people with MS and MD, who see their wheelchairs as tools of mobility and even liberation, I wonder if the two caregivers were somehow pushing this person to use a walker, when a wheelchair would be so much more enabling (especially since he already had one). Very many of my friends had to advocate very hard to get their wheelchairs, since the idea of being "confined to a wheelchair" was such a hang-up to the able-bodied folks around them.
It's much the same with prosthetics. It used to be that the main purpose of a prosthetic leg, for instance, wasn't to enable better mobility, but to hide the disability, to try to get the disabled person to "pass" and thus accommodate the squeamishness of the able-bodied people they might encounter. This has changed--nowadays prosthetic legs are designed more often for comfort and ease of use, rather than to try to pretend the person isn't missing their leg or legs--but it took decades of advocating to get this to happen. Again, this was all more related to the "discomfort" that able-bodied people felt around someone with an obvious disability, than with enabling that person to live up to his or her full capacity.
Disability is an integral part of the human experience. We need to face it for what it is, rather than impose our own preconceptions and stereotypes, which often as not hinder more than help.
Sorry to lecture like this, but obviously that comment hit a nerve.
Best wishes.
NBachers
(17,126 posts)RandySF
(58,980 posts)What's the issue?
NBachers
(17,126 posts)I'm comparing the non-importance of the post with the non-importance of boy/girlgate.
RandySF
(58,980 posts)It's just that someone WAS actually offended earlier.
Iggo
(47,561 posts)That's the first time I watched any of either convention on TV (my SIL loves Bubba, so I volunteered to hold the 4-month-old until the speech was over) and now I get what some of you are saying. They're just looking for something wrong to talk about instead of something right.
I haven't watched TV news for a long time, and I don't miss it one bit.
womanofthehills
(8,722 posts)Rachel?
NBachers~
blue neen
(12,324 posts)I'm sorry that's what you got out of that amazing speech. Geez.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)eom
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)tenderfoot
(8,437 posts)FarPoint
(12,412 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)I'm 61, and 61 is the new 59.
Bill did touch on it when he mentioned that those of us nearer the end of our time than the beginning spend a lot of time thinking and worrying about family. We worry that they will have a difficult time of it when we're no longer around to provide comfort and shelter for them. It's a concern that's very real for we oldsters, and something the under-40 crowd doesn't think about (nor should they).
Rex
(65,616 posts)Yeah his hands shook, big deal he ain't no spring chicken anymore. His speech was amazing. His showmanship is still the best there is.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)All righty then.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)comes from the acknowledgement that we're all getting older. When most of us first met Clinton he was an energetic guy who jogged and liked McDonalds. That was 24 years ago. Now he's 70 and has a slight tremor and isn't allowed to eat at McDonalds. His tremor reminds us that time's a-passing.
Bucky
(54,032 posts)I believe he's suffering from gerontophobia
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)I had an employee years ago, a girl in her early 20s, she had a familiar hand tremor she said was just called "essential tremor".
Once I learned to work with it, it didn't even affect her work as a cat veterinary assistant.
No big drama. Older people's hands shake a lot of the time. I am nearly 60 and I can see a very fine tremor in mine sometimes.
womanofthehills
(8,722 posts)prescription meds can also cause tremors
I thought he looked great - still has his good looks and he looked healthy.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)There was absolutely nothing wrong with him mentally or physically. My hands shake a bit at times, especially after an overload of caffeine.
Koinos
(2,792 posts)Apparently, Bill saw a doctor about it. He feared it might be Parkinson's. The doctor assured him that it happens to many aging people occasionally. It usually happens when they feel tired, and it is perfectly normal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/18/bill-clinton-hand-tremor_n_2503432.html