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bravenak

(34,648 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:23 PM Aug 2016

Jackpine Radicals DEMONIZES Black Lives Matter

As usual, our local hate site is DEMONIZING a progressive group. With all the banned trolls over there I find myself not surprised in the slightest.
http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/wow-and-yet-the-black-community-and-blm-went-with-clinton/


From the ignorant article they posted:

So instead of paying attention to issues and policy, BLM paid attention to skin color instead and went with Hillary. Instead of now being able to work together with all people to bring about the realization of these very human demands, their focus on how white Bernie’s supporters are, and consequent support of Hillary instead, has guaranteed that none of their demands are met.

Just gotta shake my head.

https://policy.m4bl.org/economic-justice/



I am very glad to be rid of those PEOPLE who denigrate African Americans. Good riddance to bad cess!
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Jackpine Radicals DEMONIZES Black Lives Matter (Original Post) bravenak Aug 2016 OP
Then don't go there? NightWatcher Aug 2016 #1
I'll do what i want to do. bravenak Aug 2016 #2
Not being bossy, but I don't like the site so I avoid it. NightWatcher Aug 2016 #3
Recommended. guillaumeb Aug 2016 #4
Black folks have to inform themselves or else bravenak Aug 2016 #12
I know that's right rbrnmw Aug 2016 #31
People act like they dont know bravenak Aug 2016 #35
yeah cause they don't have to worry about who has the knives to their backs rbrnmw Aug 2016 #46
That site is fixated on Hillary Clinton Gothmog Aug 2016 #204
Is the poster, Madhound, the head of JPR or authorized to speak for it? Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #234
I am not sure he is the head of anything. But he sure got recs. bravenak Aug 2016 #247
AMEN! nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #61
Reading JPR is informing yourself? About what? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2016 #86
Gotta agree with you there. cwydro Aug 2016 #203
I think some old opponents fled there in defeat Hortensis Aug 2016 #253
My father was very Liberal yet Chevy Aug 2016 #97
2 Georgia State students kicked out of Hillary Clinton rally for 'Black Lives Matter' sign Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #180
So, something that happened in February excuses everything they say or do now? bravenak Aug 2016 #192
I'm not excusing anything that is racist Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #199
Thank you Omaha Steve saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #263
"Black folks need to inform themselves?" Nonsense! Orrex Aug 2016 #201
I know, right bravenak Aug 2016 #246
Know your enemy. sheshe2 Aug 2016 #21
^THIS^ SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #64
Indeed wysi Aug 2016 #76
Yup! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #81
Then be prepared to get yourself irritated. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2016 #7
Because drama. n/t demmiblue Aug 2016 #10
^THIS^ Turn CO Blue Aug 2016 #13
Heh. (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2016 #111
Double this ^^ chwaliszewski Aug 2016 #124
No, to promote tolerance. lovemydog Aug 2016 #182
+1 jack_krass Aug 2016 #239
Because words can have consequences. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #66
Probably because these are the same creeps that KMOD Aug 2016 #67
Yup. zappaman Aug 2016 #94
Yes, because the SAME CREEPS. betsuni Aug 2016 #123
I like that they have their very own place. KMOD Aug 2016 #142
Well done, my girl! NanceGreggs Aug 2016 #177
Why go there? Texasgal Aug 2016 #5
Because bravenak Aug 2016 #18
Okay? Texasgal Aug 2016 #24
Know your enemy. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #72
Isn't "rant and rave" Lilith Rising Aug 2016 #83
Oh good gawd! Texasgal Aug 2016 #112
No. Juust saying that Trump Lilith Rising Aug 2016 #121
"Rant and rave." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #173
why are you so worried about other ppl on another site G_j Aug 2016 #6
Why are you worried about what I'm worried about rather than getting Hillary elected? bravenak Aug 2016 #16
Probably because you posted about it. nt Gore1FL Aug 2016 #40
I respect you G_j KMOD Aug 2016 #80
I am pretty amazed at the extent that some people G_j Aug 2016 #170
Well, perhaps it's because I do hold a grudge of some sort. KMOD Aug 2016 #174
it's all too much for me to keep track of G_j Aug 2016 #176
Or perhaps you weren't persecuted, KMOD Aug 2016 #178
no I haven't been G_j Aug 2016 #179
Yeah it is silly, I have decided to ignore those causing all the drama. Rex Aug 2016 #273
Good for you - we all know you were stalked and harassed, as were others. You were NEVER.... George II Dec 2016 #296
that's what right wing bigots do JI7 Aug 2016 #8
I know. They just make me sick today. bravenak Aug 2016 #14
So does DU. demmiblue Aug 2016 #9
That is horrible bravenak Aug 2016 #17
Yeah, also were called thugs and accused of extortion here Bradical79 Aug 2016 #281
Sounds to me like right-wing trolls are ratfucking the site. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #11
I do not equate that site with being a Bernie site bravenak Aug 2016 #15
The admins on that site sheshe2 Aug 2016 #25
Yep. It is their fault that it got this way bravenak Aug 2016 #27
One admin said it was okay to CALL HILL THE C WORD.... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #37
Yep. I noticed the hatred of women there. Sick sick sick bravenak Aug 2016 #43
Fuck them! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #48
They are jealous bravenak Aug 2016 #56
jealous assholes! sheshe2 Aug 2016 #58
Of course. They're just whooping it up over what a great idea Dead Woman Card is. kcr Aug 2016 #151
Link please. Scuba Aug 2016 #193
So disgusting, I gotta have another look! Even the link dissolved!! Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #235
That's right. kcr Aug 2016 #242
Who is Madhound? He in charge of JPR? Authorized to speak for them?.... Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #245
Okay, no snark this time. I'm asking this in all seriousness. kcr Aug 2016 #255
Point: His view doesn't necessarily imply an endorsement from the site where posted. Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #259
I don't belong to the site... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #237
Here. I found a long and interesting thread on the topic. There's some reasoned opinions within. Scuba Aug 2016 #240
And there it is kcr Aug 2016 #243
Not the one I was thinking of... sheshe2 Aug 2016 #284
They did? SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #89
You would have to go look. But dont. It's mean. bravenak Aug 2016 #104
Yes they are. KMOD Aug 2016 #77
No surprise. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2016 #19
I am not ever surprised anymore bravenak Aug 2016 #23
15 post dimwit Warpy Aug 2016 #20
They might need a mirt bravenak Aug 2016 #22
The inmates are in charge there. There is no pivoting away from crazy and racist nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #33
This is the last time I bother even looking bravenak Aug 2016 #47
Best just to stay out of that cess pool, unless... Adrahil Aug 2016 #26
I just hope they feel embarassed and knock it off. bravenak Aug 2016 #28
You hope in vain, I'm afraid. Adrahil Aug 2016 #34
That is sad bravenak Aug 2016 #38
Don't argue with idiots and crazy people. Folks The Second Stone Aug 2016 #29
You are RIGHT bravenak Aug 2016 #30
As always, but especially on this one The Second Stone Aug 2016 #39
The Trumpkins and special snowflakes there aren't worth OPs here. nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #32
I know. They really get on my nerves though bravenak Aug 2016 #41
They are racists and wingnuts and crazy people. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #45
I'm fine with identifying racism here or elsewhere (JPR, Disc'nist, etc.). Surprised anyone objects. Hoyt Aug 2016 #36
I'm not surprised they object. bravenak Aug 2016 #42
Some people on this site are anti-semetic. panader0 Aug 2016 #44
I remain convinced, or at least hopeful SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #54
OMG Brave. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #49
Hey. It was nice to see you, even if very briefly bravenak Aug 2016 #51
I'll do what my old, tired nerves allow, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #57
I Know how you feel bravenak Aug 2016 #63
Disgusting bluestateguy Aug 2016 #50
No surprise. Those folks are openly hostile to black people. nt Cali_Democrat Aug 2016 #52
Hate us with a PURPLE PASSION bravenak Aug 2016 #53
why do you pay any attention to them? Skittles Aug 2016 #55
Because what they spew might have consequences. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #59
I live in Texas Skittles Aug 2016 #68
I agree with the f them. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #70
go there then Skittles Aug 2016 #71
I don't go there, I go here. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #74
whatever floats your boat Skittles Aug 2016 #75
Same here. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #79
Anti black attitudes are a physical danger to my person bravenak Aug 2016 #60
Not alone, hopefully. SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #69
Thank you bravenak Aug 2016 #103
Don't go there anymore. Iggo Aug 2016 #62
I just said upthread that this was my last visit bravenak Aug 2016 #65
not sure why they do it Skittles Aug 2016 #78
I've said it before BainsBane Aug 2016 #73
+++++++ KMOD Aug 2016 #82
Well said. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #84
Hear, hear. Ellen Forradalom Aug 2016 #90
Absolutely. They are nasty and deceptive bravenak Aug 2016 #106
+1 Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #109
^^^^THIS!!!^^^^ is a MUST READ. Thank you for that post! nt AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #134
OT, but is your user name the character in "The Birdcage"? betsuni Aug 2016 #139
yes it is. It is one of my favorite movies. I chose it because I love humor and it was so freaking AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #143
I watched it again the other night and it never gets old! betsuni Aug 2016 #144
I have watched it a million times and I agree, it is a classic. Never gets old. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #149
Ahahaha! Bradical79 Aug 2016 #282
I LOVE that scene! Nathan Lane is just amazing. Thanks for the video post. AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #290
Agreed Gothmog Aug 2016 #205
That's interesting... OneGrassRoot Aug 2016 #221
Since Bernie isn't a candidate anymore BainsBane Aug 2016 #225
Excellent points. OneGrassRoot Aug 2016 #230
Dont You Think It's Time To Focus On Trump Instead? billhicks76 Aug 2016 #85
Thank you. roamer65 Aug 2016 #88
dup Skittles Aug 2016 #92
Some On DU Are Intent On Dividing Everyone billhicks76 Aug 2016 #98
Only worthwhile comment on the thread so far. Scuba Aug 2016 #195
^^^THIS^^^ Skittles Aug 2016 #93
That's exactly what conservative groups want. KMOD Aug 2016 #95
Putins Paid Trolls n/t Chevy Aug 2016 #100
Some...And Paid Trolls From Every Interest Group There Is billhicks76 Aug 2016 #102
I Dont Know What JPR Is billhicks76 Aug 2016 #101
I don't look for racists. I look for ignorant and racially tone-deaf folks, KMOD Aug 2016 #110
I have to wonder why this shit is allowed melman Aug 2016 #114
Curious, what suggests to you that DU rules would 'forbid it?' emulatorloo Aug 2016 #251
right here melman Aug 2016 #256
BLM isnt a losing or winning primary candidate. It is a movement that transcends all that. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #261
It has been established that some people here are, self-admittingly, trolling DU. demmiblue Aug 2016 #117
They have a following melman Aug 2016 #128
Don't you think it's a bit of a concern forjusticethunders Aug 2016 #120
Haven't Witnessed Yet Myself billhicks76 Aug 2016 #181
Someone is still smarting over Seattle... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #155
I'm amused by the members of that club. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #87
Hey. I try to read her posts but it is becomming harder and harder to decipher what she is trying to bravenak Aug 2016 #107
That one was always saying farewell The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #126
I remember her endless gbcws bravenak Aug 2016 #133
Makes me realize just how long I have been at this site. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #136
I can imagine. The more they hate on them the stronger my conviction to vote for her is bravenak Aug 2016 #137
I don't know which was worse 2008 or this year. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #140
Me too. bravenak Aug 2016 #141
I used to like, SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #291
Me too. I feel the same way bravenak Aug 2016 #292
Thanks, brave. Signing out again. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2016 #295
so did DU when BLM protested Hillary. nt retrowire Aug 2016 #91
Lol the place is getting trolled, many posting w the same style as Hillary's biggest DUers Arazi Aug 2016 #96
Clicked on the link. Jakes Progress Aug 2016 #99
I really used to like a lot of them. Sad bravenak Aug 2016 #105
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #156
I think every poster at JPR managed to earn their reputation, msanthrope Aug 2016 #175
I'm a poster at JPR. What's my reputation? Violet_Crumble Aug 2016 #200
Tell me exactly what it is you disagree with? msanthrope Aug 2016 #202
"These aren’t white issues, or black issues, they are human issues." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #108
Yeah, Bernie said he would give them 15 dollar an hour in order KMOD Aug 2016 #116
Wrong. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #125
No, it's not funny at all. KMOD Aug 2016 #129
That their demands mirror much of Bernie's platform... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #132
Black voters are not monolithic KMOD Aug 2016 #138
Neither are participants on JPR. Or DU, for that matter. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #146
I can't help what the ignorant elitists choose to do. KMOD Aug 2016 #150
LOL! Congrats, you've fully embraced right-wing framing... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #153
I did discuss it. KMOD Aug 2016 #157
Parallels between BLM demands and Sanders campaign. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #162
Hillary Clinton addresses many of their wishes as well. KMOD Aug 2016 #166
She was also there for the Iraq War vote, SMC22307 Aug 2016 #210
She was also a Senator in New York after 9/11, but her phony detractors refuse R B Garr Aug 2016 #212
Oh FFS, I'm so sick and tired of this phony and dishonest superiority complex. R B Garr Aug 2016 #208
Take two aspirin and get some rest. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #211
This is the typical personal attack we've grown accustomed to from the losing campaign. R B Garr Aug 2016 #213
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #189
The primary is over dude. cwydro Aug 2016 #206
"there is a reason he did not resonate with minorities and women" Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #214
The correct info is that the election results supersede speculative articles from April. R B Garr Aug 2016 #215
Age gap cuts into Clinton’s support among female voters Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #218
LOL, I don't need a link to the election results. They are all over the internet and R B Garr Aug 2016 #219
So why on earth did you bother to waste your time on my reply at all? Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #222
You posted about younger voters. It's only part of the story. The rest of the R B Garr Aug 2016 #223
Another group trying to claim that they are the... TipTok Aug 2016 #118
Are their policy points not valid? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #127
They certainly match... TipTok Aug 2016 #158
ugh Person 2713 Aug 2016 #228
All one has to do to disperse a jackpineradical gathering... Tarc Aug 2016 #113
LOL bravenak Aug 2016 #115
Are you gainfully employed? (n/t) SMC22307 Aug 2016 #130
You're not going to convince us liberals to go into a snake pit like jack pine kimbutgar Aug 2016 #119
Good. I saw it. It was nasty. Don't go!!!! bravenak Aug 2016 #122
The site is designed to fail. JohnnyRingo Aug 2016 #131
You might be right about it being a troll testing the limits bravenak Aug 2016 #135
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #185
I was over having a laugh in another thread about what crackpots they are, but kcr Aug 2016 #145
Crackpots, yep bravenak Aug 2016 #148
I read the OP; I think you're simplifying and overgeneralizing elias7 Aug 2016 #147
Close to 150 replies and zero discussion about BLM's platform... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #152
That's right kcr Aug 2016 #154
"Dead Woman Card carrying hate site members and the crazy things they say" SMC22307 Aug 2016 #160
Why are you doing that? kcr Aug 2016 #161
Please decipher the word salad above. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #164
I don't know. Go to the website and ask the person kcr Aug 2016 #165
BLM is referenced in the OP. Why wouldn't it be discussed? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #168
In the context of the JPer demonizing BLM, sure. kcr Aug 2016 #169
The link provided in the OP is hardly an "attack." SMC22307 Aug 2016 #171
Well, obviously, you have a very different definition of attack than I do. kcr Aug 2016 #172
Inappropriately as well as Over-used internet and phrase #98 --"Word Salad" ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #217
This OP isn't about the issues Arazi Aug 2016 #163
That's abundantly clear. Name-calling and callouts... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #167
Here's some of BLM's platform: lovemydog Aug 2016 #186
Reasonable? KMOD Aug 2016 #159
That thread reminds me of the Stockholm syndrome lovemydog Aug 2016 #194
They aren't progressive BainsBane Aug 2016 #220
Good riddance lovemydog Aug 2016 #183
I'm kinda glad they have their own place now. bravenak Aug 2016 #191
Me too. lovemydog Aug 2016 #196
I know, the cycle is hilarious bravenak Aug 2016 #198
Why don't you make an account over there and tell them what you think? redgreenandblue Aug 2016 #184
Ew bravenak Aug 2016 #187
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #188
It really is pathetic bravenak Aug 2016 #190
Agree with you on everything lovemydog Aug 2016 #197
there's no demonisation in the extract you posted n/t PaulaFarrell Aug 2016 #207
I didn't quite get that either G_j Aug 2016 #238
Years ago here, a homeless member of DU contacted me, requesting closeupready Aug 2016 #209
Interesting ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #224
I presume that means you are no longer homeless, and if so, closeupready Aug 2016 #236
Not for many years ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #257
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2016 #278
Not surprised ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #216
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #226
Just holding feet to the fire. nt msanthrope Aug 2016 #227
"Snitches"??? ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #233
Well it did get a bit fucking ridiculous with all the accusing Sanders supporters of being racists. CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #229
Thosexare not fucking Sanders supporters. Those people hate Sanders now. I must defend him! bravenak Aug 2016 #249
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #231
Drama! Egnever Aug 2016 #232
Sure are a lot of people sensitive about what you post. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #241
Sensitive? melman Aug 2016 #244
Funny thing... They could ignore me but instead they RACE to post on my ops. Funny how important bravenak Aug 2016 #250
Gotta figure out how to monetize that bravenak. fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #254
Oh hell yeah! Get PAID!!! bravenak Aug 2016 #264
I think JustAnotherGen said $500 per post! LOL fleabiscuit Aug 2016 #274
Ohhhh!!! They owe me moooney!! bravenak Aug 2016 #280
Many of us enjoy her posts. Starry Messenger Aug 2016 #270
There sure are. bravenak Aug 2016 #248
How dare you hold up that mirror to white America!!!!!!!!!! guillaumeb Aug 2016 #252
It stresses me out a bit to know how badly they take me criticising bigots bravenak Aug 2016 #266
I agree that those BLM activists who supported Hillary made a mistake. Vattel Aug 2016 #258
let's face it G_j Aug 2016 #260
You don't get to decide what is best for them ir a 'mistake'. Decide for yourself. bravenak Aug 2016 #267
I think that the black lives matter activists who voted for Sanders made the right choice, Vattel Aug 2016 #272
Thats none of your business. bravenak Aug 2016 #279
Sure it is. I can have opinions about who people should vote for. Vattel Aug 2016 #283
You can. And we can tell you it is none of your business. bravenak Aug 2016 #285
and you'd be mistaken Vattel Aug 2016 #286
You would be bravenak Aug 2016 #287
By the way, I think you would be making a mistake if you voted for Trump. Vattel Aug 2016 #288
I dont need to know all of your thoughts about Trump. My voting for him would NEVER be considered. bravenak Aug 2016 #289
Troll ID is in the eyes of the beholder. saidsimplesimon Aug 2016 #262
What the hell does this EVEN MEAN? bravenak Aug 2016 #265
The dozens ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #268
Oh I see. Funny that it must be discussed while discussing anti black attitudes bravenak Aug 2016 #269
Yup ismnotwasm Aug 2016 #271
Jackpine Radical would be laughing his ass off right now... If he wasn't dead Ellipsis Aug 2016 #275
I knew Jackpine Radical. Jackpine Radical was a good man. NuclearDem Aug 2016 #276
A fellow 'Sconi who was indeed a kind man. It saddens me all the way around. Ellipsis Aug 2016 #277
Thanks for the link!, lots good discussion there, and many former DUers! jack_krass Aug 2016 #293
Hope you enjoy it enough to become a regular poster there! bravenak Aug 2016 #294
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
86. Reading JPR is informing yourself? About what?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:17 PM
Aug 2016

What's the percentage of the American public that posts at JPR?

Goodness gracious I bet they laugh at some peoples' obsession with what goes on around their little campfire.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
253. I think some old opponents fled there in defeat
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:29 PM
Aug 2016

and, surprisingly, are missed by some who can't just leave them to their misery. And it is misery. I've dropped in there, and they're mostly very unhappy and depressed, moping about their failure and irrelevance, though that's not quite how they express it. Since the Democratic Party owning most of that they consider only their dreams is abject failure to them. and since their leader has continued on without them (sold out), they have very little to hang onto, just fantasies that Hillary will still be arrested. Or something.

 

Chevy

(1,063 posts)
97. My father was very Liberal yet
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:30 PM
Aug 2016

everyday he would read The Weekly Standard or National Review. Would never comment out loud or anything but one day I asked "Why do you read that?" He said "So you you know what the other side is thinking or planning" I laughed it off and said "Whatever".
Now being older I fully understand what he was saying but I still have no interest in doing that. Find myself hiding articles on Facebook feed instead of engaging don't need the stress.

Omaha Steve

(99,748 posts)
180. 2 Georgia State students kicked out of Hillary Clinton rally for 'Black Lives Matter' sign
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:45 AM
Aug 2016

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/02/2_georgia_state_students_kicke.html

By Erin Edgemon | eedgemon@al.com
Email the author | Follow on Twitter
on February 27, 2016 at 8:12 PM

Two Georgia State University freshmen claim they were kicked out of a Hillary Clinton rally on Friday for writing "Black Lives Matter" on the back of a Clinton sign.

"The ironic thing is that the staffer gave me the sign in the first place. If they hadn't given it to us, I would not have written it down," Ashona Husbands told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

Her friend, Meagan Mwanda, who was also ejected, said: "Why are these three words such a threat to her and her campaign?"

The Clinton campaign told the newspaper the Secret Service nor the campaign kicked anyone out of the rally at Atlanta City Hall. Atlanta police did escort two people out of the rally for having signs, according to the report.

FULL story at link.

https://twitter.com/shelbyholliday/status/703284100191416321/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
192. So, something that happened in February excuses everything they say or do now?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:07 AM
Aug 2016

Nothing they say is wrong because back in Feb a few BLM folks were kicked out of a rally? Are you serious? If I were a member there, I would not justify the bad actions of others. I'd simply stop posting there.

Omaha Steve

(99,748 posts)
199. I'm not excusing anything that is racist
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:25 AM
Aug 2016

Just pointing out Hillary's record isn't squeaky clean with super predators and click to heel.

There are bad actions by DUers here too.



Orrex

(63,225 posts)
201. "Black folks need to inform themselves?" Nonsense!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:30 AM
Aug 2016

Don't you know that you've got a whole internet full of white people eager to explain race to you?

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
182. No, to promote tolerance.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:38 AM
Aug 2016

For example, the Southern Poverty Law Center monitors hate & has free resources for teaching tolerance.

https://www.splcenter.org

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
67. Probably because these are the same creeps that
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:46 PM
Aug 2016

dominated this board throughout the primary.

The same creeps that were responsible for alert stalking and abusing the jury system.

The same creeps that were never for unity.

The same creeps who are trying to depress the Democratic electorate.

The same creeps who kept insulting the Black Lives Matter Movement and posted completely tone-deaf and ignorant crap.

The same creeps who spent the entire primary season trashing our now Democratic nominee.

The same creeps who were not just satisfied with taking over this board, but took it upon themselves to troll a small site that was specifically set up for Hillary Clinton Supporters.

betsuni

(25,660 posts)
123. Yes, because the SAME CREEPS.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:11 AM
Aug 2016

I had to go out and find a religion to join so that I'd have a deity to pray to and beg it to make the creeps stay where they are and not come back over here.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
142. I like that they have their very own place.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:52 AM
Aug 2016

That way I only have to see it if I want to.

I'm not one to go and seek out freeper sites.

Better there, than here, that's my motto.

Texasgal

(17,048 posts)
24. Okay?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:02 PM
Aug 2016

Well go ahead and rant and rave all you want.

Seems like a colossal waste of time in my opinion. Of course, you are free to do what you want. Not exactly sure what you want out of this.. But whatever.

Lilith Rising

(184 posts)
121. No. Juust saying that Trump
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:07 AM
Aug 2016

said he'd rather not have to "rant and rave" and you're just the next person I hear saying it is all.

G_j

(40,372 posts)
6. why are you so worried about other ppl on another site
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:38 PM
Aug 2016

? Why not go out and work on getting Hillary elected?

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
80. I respect you G_j
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:09 PM
Aug 2016

but many of them were a large part of this site, and caused a lot of turmoil.

Many of them worked tirelessly to silence Hillary Clinton Supporters.

That said, I'm glad they found a place to spew their hatred and are no longer a part of this community.

G_j

(40,372 posts)
170. I am pretty amazed at the extent that some people
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:23 AM
Aug 2016

follow and keep track of individuals, and I've been here for years. It appears to be also about personalities and axe grinding. It's fairly ironic that you talk about hate, when there is plenty of it in this thread.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
174. Well, perhaps it's because I do hold a grudge of some sort.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:52 AM
Aug 2016

I was continually harassed for the sole reason that I supported Hillary Clinton.

I never participated in any Bernie Sanders threads, yet any thread I made regarding Hillary Clinton was swarmed with anti-Hillary supporters.

I was harassed by folks who took screen shots of my pro Hillary posts on a separate Hillary Clinton Supporter site.

I was harassed because I support the Black Lives Matter Movement.

I consistently stood up for Hillary, women, children, minorities and pretty much every social justice issue.

I spoke out when people were being bullied.

And when the civility on this board went by the wayside, and people felt free to be flat out rude and insulting, I fought back.

All, or at least most of the hides I earned were against the most revolting, disgusting, and just plain flat out wrong posts for a Democratic site.

I have never insulted anyone of good intention.

In fact, I had more than one cordial post with the fellow that the JPR site is named after.

I give what I get. If you are cordial, I am cordial. If you are fun and snarky, I too can be fun and snarky, but if you are an asshole, I will be an asshole right back.

That's just who I am. And I'll be damned if I let anyone hurt people I care about. I will only give someone the benefit of the doubt so many times before I ask them to clarify.

That's just me.



 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
178. Or perhaps you weren't persecuted,
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:14 AM
Aug 2016

and didn't feel the wrath.

It's hard for me to believe that you would take such a nonchalant position if you didn't experience it.

But trust me, it's nothing compared to what life has handed me. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

This shit is a pittance on my worry list. Still, I have no tolerance for assholes.

G_j

(40,372 posts)
179. no I haven't been
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:40 AM
Aug 2016

I'm sorry it happened to you. I can tell you that I've had a few posts hidden lately which is highly unusual for me. I sense a purge mentality. I have never seen so much "hippie punching" and derogatory references to the "fringe left" in my time at DU. My "nonchalant" attitude may have something to do with that. The level of intelligent liberal discussion here has fallen quite a bit. Maybe I come here out of habit, but it's harder to take seriously. I even saw that some people wanted Thom Hartmann banned today.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
273. Yeah it is silly, I have decided to ignore those causing all the drama.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:06 PM
Aug 2016

Plenty of folks here still want to have a conversation without it turning into a yelling match.

George II

(67,782 posts)
296. Good for you - we all know you were stalked and harassed, as were others. You were NEVER....
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:52 AM
Dec 2016

.....negative toward Sanders or his fans, as you say it was only because you were a supporter of the "dreaded woman of Chappaqua"!

demmiblue

(36,898 posts)
9. So does DU.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:46 PM
Aug 2016

I alerted on two posts that equated BLM with Westboro Baptist Church... one was deleted, one wasn't.

You would be surprised by who the two supported in the primaries.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
281. Yeah, also were called thugs and accused of extortion here
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:42 PM
Aug 2016

That stuff may not be as frequent here as on that other site, but there's still some of that going on occasionaly with no consequences.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. Sounds to me like right-wing trolls are ratfucking the site.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:49 PM
Aug 2016

I walked away from the crazier elements (and ratfucked elements) of the Bernie campaign a couple months ago.

The reasonable Bernie supporters are already supporting Hillary.

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
37. One admin said it was okay to CALL HILL THE C WORD....
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:17 PM
Aug 2016

That is a okay there. Yet they firmly said that if you say that to a member here you WILL BE BANNED! Does that tell you something?

kcr

(15,320 posts)
151. Of course. They're just whooping it up over what a great idea Dead Woman Card is.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:23 AM
Aug 2016

They're disgusting.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
235. So disgusting, I gotta have another look! Even the link dissolved!!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:55 PM
Aug 2016


Is the poster, Madhound, authorized to represent JPR, or this post ref in the OP just his?

kcr

(15,320 posts)
242. That's right.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:01 PM
Aug 2016

It's just like Free Republic isn't really a right wing website. It's just a bunch of individual posters saying, like, whatever they want. It's just a bunch of pixels on the screen! Leave them alone!

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
245. Who is Madhound? He in charge of JPR? Authorized to speak for them?....
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:12 PM
Aug 2016

....NRA TalkingPoint©?

Jesus, kcr, good pro2A Democrats get accused of being trolls on a regular basis. "Living in fear," indeed.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
255. Okay, no snark this time. I'm asking this in all seriousness.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:33 PM
Aug 2016

First of all, I'll answer your question. Madhound is a poster at JP? Is he authorized to speak for them? I have no idea. Okay, now that I got that out of the way. I don't understand your point. Are you saying that people should only ever look at each and every individual post one at a time, and not make a determination of what a site's agenda is about as a group?

If so, I don't agree. It's not like one starts up a website and then has absolutely no control over what happens to it after that. No agenda whatsoever. And it's not as if they can't control it if it gets out of control or moves away from whatever agenda they had in mind.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
259. Point: His view doesn't necessarily imply an endorsement from the site where posted.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:46 PM
Aug 2016

Which is what the OP's author explicitly said happened. Put aother way, much garbage has been puked up on DU and other sites. It doesn't necessarily mean everyone, including site administrators, endorse that garbage. Of course people might conclude that it does if they are pre-disposed to think along those lines anyway.

Heavens, can you imagine the consternation among some if Eleanors38 said that the anti-gun policies of DU are crippling the Democratic Party? Probably not, but if Skinner and the Ads said so it would give pause.

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
237. I don't belong to the site...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:12 PM
Aug 2016

nor can I search its archives. It was the admin that has a picture of a panda as an avatar.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
243. And there it is
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 04:05 PM
Aug 2016

Post 27, the post where the admin sanctioned the C word. Along with all those reasoned opinions. Thanks!

sheshe2

(83,934 posts)
284. Not the one I was thinking of...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 09:33 PM
Aug 2016

yet this is the second admin that says it is okay to use as long as it is not about one of THEIR members. (post 27)

The other conversation was an Admin with a poster named Whisp, they were banned here a long time ago for using a sock. They use to be a friend, I hardly recognize them anymore. Sad.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
89. They did?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:19 PM
Aug 2016

Whoa. Might I ask for elaboration?

Seriously - I can't find a way to ask that doesn't sound supercilious or condescending. But I mean it dead serious.

Warpy

(111,360 posts)
20. 15 post dimwit
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:54 PM
Aug 2016

who obviously didn't read through the economic justice platform, which is a very good one.

The site is going to have to do a little housecleaning, get rid of the dumber ones. There, like here, they tend to be trolls.

He also failed to realize that a lot of that stuff, 80% of Sanders's platform, was adopted. He's so twisted up against Clinton he doesn't realize he's turning his nose up at the policy he's complaining BLM is ignoring.

I have a headache now. No wonder I rarely read anything over there.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
28. I just hope they feel embarassed and knock it off.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:11 PM
Aug 2016

I used to really respect some of those people.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
34. You hope in vain, I'm afraid.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:16 PM
Aug 2016

They are not thinking rationally. They are indulging in the worst kind of confirmation bias and outcome-based thinking. Maybe some will come to their senses, but many will just reinvest in their self-indulgent fantasy world.

It's depressing, because some folks over there were very passionate progressive voices, and now they just spend their passion on sound and fury signifying nothing.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
29. Don't argue with idiots and crazy people. Folks
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:12 PM
Aug 2016

watching can't tell the difference. Wrestle with a pig instead. You both get dirty and the pig likes it!

Oink! Oink! Oink!

Seriously, it's just crazies over there.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
39. As always, but especially on this one
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:22 PM
Aug 2016

I don't go over there. Your education of us on this board matters. Spend your time here.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
45. They are racists and wingnuts and crazy people.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:29 PM
Aug 2016

For the most part, they've stayed away.

No need to drag the troll feces here in even small buckets.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
36. I'm fine with identifying racism here or elsewhere (JPR, Disc'nist, etc.). Surprised anyone objects.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:17 PM
Aug 2016

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
54. I remain convinced, or at least hopeful
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:38 PM
Aug 2016

That that was lashing out in frustration.

Hope I am right, or if not that at least a heartfelt lesson was learned.

Yes, some things are heinous, totally agree.

But not many things (some things, granted) are truly, totally unforgivable. In this case, I, personally, forgive. YMMV.

Skittles

(153,204 posts)
68. I live in Texas
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:52 PM
Aug 2016

I don't have to search the internet to find ignorant, racist right wing assholes - why report that garbage here? fuck them

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
70. I agree with the f them.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:55 PM
Aug 2016

From deep east Texas.

But do I want to know what they are doing, nauseating though it is?

Yes.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
74. I don't go there, I go here.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:02 PM
Aug 2016

Not super, but best I've found. (And I've had more issues with this site than hardly anybody knows, over more years than hardly anybody knows.)

So I appreciate what I regard as useful info.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
79. Same here.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:09 PM
Aug 2016

Emoji noted for future reference.

I generally don't remember individuals much, but you now have the dubious honor of being on my list.

Mmmmm... Did it apply to them, not me? Well, I'll still remember you, but not quite so negatively.

We should ignore people who might wish or enable harm? Really...?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
60. Anti black attitudes are a physical danger to my person
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:43 PM
Aug 2016

Those not living in blacks skin have the privilege of ignoring dangerous anti black attitudes. Sadly, I must inform myself constantly about what is going on in kkkville. Enjoy not noticing, I will continue the struggle alone.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
69. Not alone, hopefully.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:52 PM
Aug 2016

I flatter myself I might know what white privilege is. Maybe being an atheist in the Bible belt (not to mention a female), I might have some mild idea.

Atheist I can hide, female I can't.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
73. I've said it before
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:00 PM
Aug 2016

and I'll say it again. Their contempt for Clinton and the Democratic Party is because of its representation and inclusion of women and people of color. That is why they are voting for or otherwise helping Trump get elected. They want America to be white and male again.

NO ONE who wants Trump to win over Clinton is anything but a reactionary, piece of shit racist. That goes especially for those pretending to be "progressive," when in fact they couldn't be more regressive.

If it were a matter of promoting policies Bernie advanced, there would be no hesitation to support Clinton. Their support of Trump and/or third party ratfuckers is because they want to punish Democratic voters for refusing to elevate their racial and gender privilege over our insignificant rights.

This is the single most despicable group of people in the history of American politics. Period. They don't even have the integrity to admit they are white male supremacists. That would require a level of honesty they are incapable of.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
143. yes it is. It is one of my favorite movies. I chose it because I love humor and it was so freaking
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:57 AM
Aug 2016

funny. And those pirin tablets to this day still cracks me up. I still have my very first copy of this movie in VHS. lol

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
221. That's interesting...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:52 PM
Aug 2016

I just realized that, of the people I know who were/are for Bernie or Jill, of those who say they're voting FOR Trump in their anger and disgust, they're all men.

Certainly I know women who refuse to vote for Hillary or Trump, but those I see changing their vote TO Trump are men.

Never thought about that until just now.

Sadly I also know conservative women who have been pro-Trump the entire time.

(I am a Bernie supporter, btw.)

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
225. Since Bernie isn't a candidate anymore
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:15 PM
Aug 2016

I hope you mean you are a Clinton supporter now.

And yes, the vast majority, but not all, are men. Sadly, I've learned that misogyny is not the sole province of men.
Voting for Trump--or a third party candidate--requires a decision that one prefer to have court take a conservative, anti-equality, tact for the foreseeable future. It requires deciding that it's preferable to see Social Security cut than have Clinton as president. It also means a decision that none of the policies Bernie campaigned on matter because Clinton supports the overwhelming majority of them and has since the beginning of the primary (the differences were largely in terms of degree or details rather than overall goals). Whereas Trump opposes everything Sanders ran on.

Even his supposed opposition to TPP is because he sees it has regulating business too much. He wants to tear down existing regulations. He made that clear in his convention speech.

Honestly, I have more respect for the ones who are honest about being conservative. It's the ones claiming to be "progressive" who embrace Trump and his ultra-reactionary, racist, and misogynist positions that I find especially despicable.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
230. Excellent points.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:32 PM
Aug 2016

Yes, I do support Hillary. I never disliked her as so many others have all along. I became torn between the two as time went on.

And I agree that misogyny isn't only expressed by men. It's part of the culture and women exhibit it as well, no doubt.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
85. Dont You Think It's Time To Focus On Trump Instead?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:17 PM
Aug 2016

Why are some people still insisting on fighting the primary? Can we divide people even more than they are? Isnt that what conservative groups want...a divided left wing? We dont need to be divided and conquered. We dont need anymore left twix vs right twix in our own party. This is beyond counterproductive. Lets keep our eye on the ball...Trump.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
98. Some On DU Are Intent On Dividing Everyone
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:31 PM
Aug 2016

I wont name names but I have to seriously question whats going on. Another venomous article is attacking all the far-left people as racists because they found one comment where someone thought BLM wasnt doing something in their interests? Who cares? What about free speech...it was on another website. And they then label all far lefties as racist and the enemy. This to me seems like something a Tump supporter wold want...dividing us up and instigating fights so we forget who we are against. Who the hell came up with the strategy of provoking liberals against one another. Our party by definition isnt racist and the more left you are the less racist you are as far as Ive ever seen. Someone really wants us to think the far left are the real racists...isnt this a FOX News talking point? And why are they concerned with refighting the primary? Move on. Move forward. And by the way it's racist to say you cant criticize someone who is a minority. We judge on action not color. These same people would have you believe that we cant criticize Clarence Thomas or Condaleeza Rice? Something doesnt smell right with that reasoning.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
95. That's exactly what conservative groups want.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:28 PM
Aug 2016

And that is exactly what that JPR site is.

RWingers posing as Democrats.

Our eyes are on the ball, but RWingers need to be taken to task.

It's like a game of whack-a-mole.

Every time they pop up, you gotta knock 'em down.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
101. I Dont Know What JPR Is
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:34 PM
Aug 2016

But I do know that I agree I dont like impostors. But they pose as moderate democrats and far-left I bet to divide us and many people here parrot their BS nonetheless. Im sorry but if youre looking for racists its probably not going to be where all the radicals who conduct anti-racism sit ins are.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
110. I don't look for racists. I look for ignorant and racially tone-deaf folks,
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:48 PM
Aug 2016

and I go from there.

I can't change the minds of the racists.

I still have hope to open the minds of the racially tone-deaf.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
114. I have to wonder why this shit is allowed
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:59 PM
Aug 2016

It seems like the new rules would forbid it, but it has clearly been deemed okay.

emulatorloo

(44,188 posts)
251. Curious, what suggests to you that DU rules would 'forbid it?'
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:25 PM
Aug 2016

Tiring of hearing about JPR here as well.

But I've never known DU rules to forbid making fun or being critical of websites that falsely smear Democrats and work to defeating Democrats. Conservative Cave, FreeRepublic, et cetera.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
256. right here
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:40 PM
Aug 2016
Don't keep fighting the last Democratic presidential primary

Regardless of whether you supported a winning candidate or a losing candidate, do not prolong the agony of the last Democratic presidential primary by continuing to pick fights, place blame, tear down former primary candidates, bait former supporters, or do anything else to pour salt on old wounds.

Why we have this rule: Most of our members want this to be forward-looking, friendly community that is focused on creating a better future for our country. Continuing to rehash old fights that have already been resolved is divisive and counter-productive.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

emulatorloo

(44,188 posts)
261. BLM isnt a losing or winning primary candidate. It is a movement that transcends all that.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:07 PM
Aug 2016

So I don't see any way that applies to this discussion.

Additionally rule meant to apply to DU members fighting each other on DU.

JPR is not a DU member. It is a website.

Yes there are ex-DU members there but what they post on a site that is Not-DU is not protected by The DU TOS.

Again I agree with you I am sick and tired of hearing about the site here. I read it for a while because of several posters I really find thoughtful and admire. However those people are attacked continually for not falling in line with the general toxicity that that permeates the site, so I stopped.

So yes, I would prefer DU'ers not drag it over here.

demmiblue

(36,898 posts)
117. It has been established that some people here are, self-admittingly, trolling DU.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:04 AM
Aug 2016

What to do?

They do have their following, though.

 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
120. Don't you think it's a bit of a concern
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:07 AM
Aug 2016

that racist reactionary Trump supporters are claiming the mantle of "progressive" and actively trying to make progressive voters vote for the fascist, or at least take votes away from the non-fascist?

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
181. Haven't Witnessed Yet Myself
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:48 AM
Aug 2016

Not saying it doesn't exist. My point is that you're falling for it if you respond by retaliating and implicating the far left. You would be shooting yourself in the food and accomplishing their goal of dividing us. It's a waste of time and energy as well as goodwill to attack the far left instead of focusing on trump. We don't need agent provocateurs.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
155. Someone is still smarting over Seattle...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:48 AM
Aug 2016

and DU is NEVER going to hear the end of it. That's all this is about.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
87. I'm amused by the members of that club.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:18 PM
Aug 2016

A lot of them have the same names they had on here.ost of them were here forever.
NadineB. looks like she found a new home along with the rest of those idiots. I say fuck them! DU is a much more rational and readable place now that they are gone.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
107. Hey. I try to read her posts but it is becomming harder and harder to decipher what she is trying to
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:42 PM
Aug 2016

say. I'm glad she lives over there now. Let them try to figure that crap out.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
126. That one was always saying farewell
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:14 AM
Aug 2016

But would always be back like she never said farewells in the first place. This went on for at least 10 years. My guess is that they will all be back here before long.
Are there even tombstones here anymore?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
133. I remember her endless gbcws
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:37 AM
Aug 2016

And the constant idea she was being bullied if asked to explain herself. I missed the tombstone thingy, I lurked but did not have an account.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
136. Makes me realize just how long I have been at this site.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:40 AM
Aug 2016

I've had my share of insults having been pro Hillary and Bill since the beginning.
You can imagine.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
140. I don't know which was worse 2008 or this year.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:47 AM
Aug 2016

Oh, and any mention of Bill even prior to 2008 was cause for a riot.
I am so glad that it's finally over.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
141. Me too.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:49 AM
Aug 2016

I was very moved by the convention. Happy tears, sad tears, everything. She did a great Job. Loved it.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
96. Lol the place is getting trolled, many posting w the same style as Hillary's biggest DUers
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:29 PM
Aug 2016

What's the obsession?

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
99. Clicked on the link.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:32 PM
Aug 2016

My first visit at their site. Now I have to go wash off my keyboard with disinfectant.

Goodness but there are some sick fucks over there. I'm guessing at some of those names and who they were here. Some I always knew were sick or nuts. A couple made me sad. Seeing someone you used to converse with, argue with, enjoy sometimes turn in on themselves with such sickness and hate, festering in ignorance and bile is just sad. Billy Crystal said it in "Forget Paris": What a waste of blood.

Response to bravenak (Reply #105)

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
175. I think every poster at JPR managed to earn their reputation,
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:59 AM
Aug 2016

all by themselves. Do you think you are unfairly characterized?

Violet_Crumble

(35,977 posts)
200. I'm a poster at JPR. What's my reputation?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:14 AM
Aug 2016

Is it some guilt by association thing based on a very few who post shit I strongly disagree with? If so why doesn't that same guilt by association thing apply because I'm a member of DU, where I've seen some pretty disgusting bigoted stuff posted at times?

I think some are making DU a pretty nasty place to hang around at with their obsessive attacks on JPR and anyone who posts there. I like it there and I like it here, and don't see why I have to choose between here and there, but there appears to be some who wish to drive anyone who dares post at JPR away from DU and then have a massive whine about how glad they are that they're all gone while at the same time ferrying selected posts from there over here. It all seems really childish and about as productive as someone yelling insults at another person a kilometre away through a triple glazed window....

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
202. Tell me exactly what it is you disagree with?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:58 AM
Aug 2016

Is it the use of the c word to describe women?
The banning of female posters who object to use of the c word?
The company of persons who were banned here for their racial invective?

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
108. "These aren’t white issues, or black issues, they are human issues."
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:43 PM
Aug 2016
The national umbrella group for BLM, The Movement for Black Lives Matter, released their list of policy demands today. I’ve gone through them, here are but a few:

Real, meaningful, and equitable universal health care

A constitutional right at the state and federal level to a fully-funded education

A divestment from industrial multinational use of fossil fuels

A cut in military expenditures and a reallocation of those funds to invest in domestic infrastructure and community well-being.

A progressive restructuring of tax codes at the local, state, and federal levels to ensure a radical and sustainable redistribution of wealth.

...

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/wow-and-yet-the-black-community-and-blm-went-with-clinton/


Damn, their policy demands sound very much like Bernie. You left that out of your OP.

Economic justice, ba-by.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
116. Yeah, Bernie said he would give them 15 dollar an hour in order
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:02 AM
Aug 2016

to keep them off the street corners.

Bernie screamed that he said "Black Lives Matter 50 times"

Look, I don't like to dismiss Bernie, but there is a reason he did not resonate with minorities and women.

He believes that social issues are wedge issues. He believes that everything can be solved through economics alone. He refuses to address social and equality issues in any way, except economically.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
125. Wrong.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:12 AM
Aug 2016

But twisting, taking things out of context, and making patently false statements is par for the course.

You gotta admit, it's pretty funny that many of BLM"s demands mirror Bernie's platform. I mean, seriously, read their policy demands...

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
129. No, it's not funny at all.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:19 AM
Aug 2016

Again, there is a reason why he did not resonate with most minorities and women.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
132. That their demands mirror much of Bernie's platform...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:32 AM
Aug 2016

is fucking hilarious. I hope no one ends up having buyer's remorse!

He resonated with young women. Many women my age are pro-Hillary just cuz "it's time" to have a female president.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
138. Black voters are not monolithic
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:44 AM
Aug 2016

a small portion chose Bernie and a larger portion chose Hillary.

You are showing complete ignorance in believing that black people are unaware of what their choices were.

You are also showing complete ignorance in you belief that women chose Hillary because she is a woman. Women are also not monolithic.

What is missing from your radar is the fact that Hillary won, and quite convincingly, because the majority of voters, (and that includes black people and women) found her to be the best choice and voted accordingly.



SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
146. Neither are participants on JPR. Or DU, for that matter.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:06 AM
Aug 2016

You're making assumptions about what I "believe" about black voters. That's a very arrogant thing to do, but par for the twisting/taking out of context/making false statements course. It's tedious.

And considering I AM a woman, I do know why many chose Hillary, and for some, it's simply because she is a woman. Hell, my own mother loved Bernie, but voted for Hillary in the primary because "we women need to stick together." it's naïve to deny gender didn't play a role.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
150. I can't help what the ignorant elitists choose to do.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:22 AM
Aug 2016

Your words speak for you.

The fact that you find it "hilarious" and hope that "No one has buyers remorse" leads me to believe that you have no respect for the will of people's votes.

You also seem to hold little regard for women and their right to choose.

I'm not down with undemocratic and, quite frankly, authoritarian views.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
153. LOL! Congrats, you've fully embraced right-wing framing...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:41 AM
Aug 2016

along with others in this thread. Crackpot "ignorant elitists" in desperate need of jobs!

Howzabout you stop analyzing me, Sigmund, and start talking policy. A good place to begin would be the parallels between the BLM and Sanders' platforms. No one seems to want to discuss that. Why is that?





 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
157. I did discuss it.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:52 AM
Aug 2016

Black voters overwhelming chose Hillary Clinton.

Why is that?

In fact, every single demographic, except white men chose Hillary Clinton. Why is that?

The Primary is over. Hillary won decidedly. There is a clear reason why.

She had the better platform, she was more in tune with the base, and she had the best proposals for solutions.

Stop fighting the primary battle.

We have moved into General Election mode now. Hillary Clinton is our nominee.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
166. Hillary Clinton addresses many of their wishes as well.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:16 AM
Aug 2016

Hillary Clinton was fighting for racial justice for a long time.

She was there in 2000 when Amadou Diallo was shot and killed. She took a lot of crap from Guiliani and other RWingers.

She has the Mothers of the Movement on her side. Why? Because she listens and understands. She will fight for justice. Just like she always has, and has proven time and time again.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
210. She was also there for the Iraq War vote,
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:58 AM
Aug 2016

"super-predators," the Crime Bill, fracking, etc.

She'll be getting my vote in November because the thought of Trump absolutely disgusts me. He has since the Central Park Five and Ivana days. But let's not stick our heads in the sand and ignore the big picture about our chosen candidate. Trump's going after her with a vengeance -- is everyone prepared for that?

R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
212. She was also a Senator in New York after 9/11, but her phony detractors refuse
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:08 AM
Aug 2016

to acknowledge that since it made her look good in the face of phony "Wall Street" blah blah blah.

She was also for Single Payer 20-something years ago, but her phony detractors can't acknowledge that since it makes her look good. She realized 20-something years ago that it would never pass, so she adopted other more passable measures.

I could go on, but you get the picture. It's more her detractors that are "sticking their head in the sand" about her. And about Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was one of the only Presidents to leave office with a surplus. But instead we heard bullshit about Gore being the same as Bush so that surplus went away.

And we all know Trump is all insults. That's it. It's hilarious now how all of a sudden "fear" is a really big "issue" when you all said the same thing about people being afraid of Sanders. LOL.

R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
208. Oh FFS, I'm so sick and tired of this phony and dishonest superiority complex.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:18 AM
Aug 2016

Good Lord, I voted in my state of California on June 7th, and here we are almost two months later with this phony and continued hostile imaginary superiority complex associated with the losing campaign. Enough is enough.

UGH!

The first few items on the BLM list were actual items that Bill Clinton/Al Gore championed some 25 years ago. They are hardly a "Sanders" platform. They are a Democratic platform. Bill Clinton rolled back the Reagan tax cuts which raised taxes on the rich. Remember? Huh? Go! Al Gore is the original author of climate change. Remember??

The rest are just friggin common sense items with the TPP being a bludgeoning tool adopted by Sanders to attack. And a couple Sanders didn't address because what his main goal as stated in his campaign was to appeal to disaffected white voters. It's obvious as you read BLM's items what I'm referencing. And it's obvious you are being disingenuous when you state that all BLM's policy issues are the sole ideas of Sanders. I'm so sick of this phoniness. Primaries are over, so let's support the nominee now.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
211. Take two aspirin and get some rest.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:06 AM
Aug 2016

The choices were Bernie and Hillary, not Bill or Al or Obama (damaging trade agreements). The current candidates differed on minimum wage, education and fracking, for starters, and one was more closely aligned with BLM.

I never stated that these issues are the "sole ideas of Sanders," but twist away!

R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
213. This is the typical personal attack we've grown accustomed to from the losing campaign.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:17 AM
Aug 2016

I'm sick and tired of it. I can't imagine what would happen if I told you to go take drugs and lie down, insinuating I am superior to you. Good Lord. And look at your own posts in this thread. They are completely irrational.

And LMAO at you going back 25 years to insult the Clintons if it makes them look bad. But anything that makes them look good is dismissed. Now you get the idea that talking "policy" is really a one-sided dealio with the phony talking points you throw out. So it was you who was "twisting away."

And the candidates didn't differ all that much, with you completely ignoring that Sanders did, in fact, lose the minority vote by wide margins. Completely lost them. So it's pretty ridiculous for you to insist they were aligned with Sanders when the FACTS are that he completely lost them. Now I wonder if you'll ever acknowledge that fact, but I doubt it.

Response to KMOD (Reply #129)

Omaha Steve

(99,748 posts)
214. "there is a reason he did not resonate with minorities and women"
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:24 AM
Aug 2016

I replied with correct info. Is the correct info not allowed on the DU?

R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
215. The correct info is that the election results supersede speculative articles from April.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:18 PM
Aug 2016

And he didn't resonate with minorities and women, as those results indicate.

Omaha Steve

(99,748 posts)
218. Age gap cuts into Clinton’s support among female voters
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:43 PM
Aug 2016

Got a link to your opinion? "And he didn't resonate with minorities and women, as those results indicate."


Age gap cuts into Clinton’s support among female voters: http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/25/age-gap-cuts-clintons-support-among-female-voters/87556856/

Maureen Feighan, The Detroit News 11:49 p.m. EDT July 25, 2016

As Hillary Clinton pushes toward the White House, she has strong support among women in their mid-30s and older, but her message and historic campaign haven’t resonated as much with younger female voters.

In early June, a CNN analysis of entrance and exit polls during the primaries in 27 states found that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee soundly beat Sen. Bernie Sanders among all female voters — 61 percent to 37 percent overall. But it wasn’t the case among female voters 18 to 29, where Clinton lost by an average of 37 percentage points to Sanders.

In Michigan, Sanders shocked the Democratic establishment when he narrowly upset Clinton in the March 8 primary, 49.8-48.2 percent. A CNN exit poll found 51 percent of white women voted for Sanders compared with 47 percent for Clinton. Clinton had stronger support among African-American women – 66 percent.

For Audra Flores, a senior at Central Michigan University who started “feeling the Bern” after she saw an interview of Sanders a year ago, he is just the all-around better candidate.

FULL story at link.

R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
219. LOL, I don't need a link to the election results. They are all over the internet and
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:49 PM
Aug 2016

are settled news. They were discussed as each state reported over months during the primaries. It's also been heavily discussed that younger voters favored Sanders. Women and minorities went for Clinton. This is really silly to belabor at this point. The primaries are over.

R B Garr

(16,993 posts)
223. You posted about younger voters. It's only part of the story. The rest of the
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:04 PM
Aug 2016

results are settled history now.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
127. Are their policy points not valid?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:17 AM
Aug 2016

I find it interesting that they so closely parallel the Sanders campaign.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
158. They certainly match...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:59 AM
Aug 2016

... but it's just one group out of dozens or hundreds that claim to speak for the whole disorganized cluster**** of BLM.

Reminds me of that People's Front of Judea bit from Life of Brian...

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
113. All one has to do to disperse a jackpineradical gathering...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:52 PM
Aug 2016

is to shower it with job applications.

kimbutgar

(21,213 posts)
119. You're not going to convince us liberals to go into a snake pit like jack pine
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:06 AM
Aug 2016

Sorry I'll endure a bad sunburn before going into a cesspool of hate.

JohnnyRingo

(18,653 posts)
131. The site is designed to fail.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:25 AM
Aug 2016

Though it bills itself a pro-Bernie group, the only requisite is Hillary bashing.

That draws republican operatives looking to sway votes to a third party or abstaining. Soon the site will find a crisis in being unable to sort friend from foe, and infighting will prevail until it implodes. I don't doubt the possibility that your find was written by a troll testing the limits of the mods.

Imagine the fun to had if Free Republic required only Trump bashing to be a member.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
135. You might be right about it being a troll testing the limits
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:39 AM
Aug 2016

They might need to create some limits soon. Idk. I expect failure too

Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #131)

kcr

(15,320 posts)
145. I was over having a laugh in another thread about what crackpots they are, but
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:06 AM
Aug 2016

It really is a hate site.

elias7

(4,027 posts)
147. I read the OP; I think you're simplifying and overgeneralizing
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:11 AM
Aug 2016

referring to the BLM platform, on the Movement for Black Lives website,

https://policy.m4bl.org/economic-justice/

The OP was asserting that the platform was more akin to the Sanders primary platform than the Clinton primary platform, and expressing some frustration at the preference of HRC over BS by the black community. If you read the thread, those PEOPLE are not denigrating African Americans and while many were banned from DU, I don't think they can fairly be characterized as trolls. And they are not DEMONIZING a progressive group; it is actually a reasonable discussion.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
152. Close to 150 replies and zero discussion about BLM's platform...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:25 AM
Aug 2016

and how it mirrors Sanders' platform. Lots of childish name-calling and call-outs, though.

This site is heading to boring, dumbed-down territory. Sad.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
154. That's right
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:46 AM
Aug 2016

because this is actually a thread about Dead Woman Card carrying hate site members and the crazy things they say.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
160. "Dead Woman Card carrying hate site members and the crazy things they say"
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:00 AM
Aug 2016

What the hell are you on about?

I'm trying to get someone -- anyone -- to discuss policy rather than people, and the parallels between the BLM platform and the Sanders campaign. This thread is short on substance, and long on childish name-calling and right-wingerish call-outs. Feels like Discussionist. So much for the "new and improved" (substance-free) DU! LOL

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
164. Please decipher the word salad above.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:05 AM
Aug 2016

Who is the dead woman? Are you referring to the now deceased DUer? If so, that's unbelievably low. And if I'm not mistaken, he was male, and thought very highly of.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
165. I don't know. Go to the website and ask the person
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:07 AM
Aug 2016

who thinks it's clever to make a Dead Woman Card. I would guess, however, that it's a take on the Woman Card that Hillary made, in response to Trump's comment that Hillary plays the Woman Card.

ETA you did read the actual OP, right? This is about another website. Not DU. It isn't about discussing BLM.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
168. BLM is referenced in the OP. Why wouldn't it be discussed?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:20 AM
Aug 2016

Doesn't quite fit the narrative, eh? LOL God bless you guys. Truly.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
169. In the context of the JPer demonizing BLM, sure.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:22 AM
Aug 2016

But no. I don't know why you expect or think a general discussion of BLM should just automatically happen. This is a thread about how hateful JP is, with the attack on BLM as evidence.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
171. The link provided in the OP is hardly an "attack."
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:27 AM
Aug 2016

But it does ask some interesting questions about the parallels between BLM's demands and Bernie's platform. No one is touching that, of course, because it doesn't fit the narrative. Imagine!

And with that, I'm off. One can take only so much online victimhood in one night.

kcr

(15,320 posts)
172. Well, obviously, you have a very different definition of attack than I do.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:31 AM
Aug 2016

See, this? "So instead of paying attention to issues and policy, BLM paid attention to skin color instead and went with Hillary. " Starting right off with accusing the group of not paying attention to issues and policy, and paying attention to skin color instead? Fits neatly with my definition of attack. In every single way.

And your use of victimhood and a roll eyes in one go, gives me a good idea of why it doesn't meet yours. It explains a lot.

ismnotwasm

(42,014 posts)
217. Inappropriately as well as Over-used internet and phrase #98 --"Word Salad"
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:30 PM
Aug 2016

It doesn't mean what you think it means.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
167. That's abundantly clear. Name-calling and callouts...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:17 AM
Aug 2016

rather than discussion of the parallels between BLM's demands and the Sanders campaign, conveniently glossed over by the OP. Doesn't fit the narrative, eh? LOL

backatcha.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
186. Here's some of BLM's platform:
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:54 AM
Aug 2016

Ending "broken windows" policing, which aggressively polices minor crimes in an attempt to stop larger ones using community oversight for misconduct rather than having police decide what consequences officers face.

Making standards for reporting police use of deadly force
independently investigating and prosecuting police misconduct
having the racial makeup of police departments reflect the communities they serve.

Requiring officers to wear body cameras.

Providing more training for police officers.

Ending for-profit policing practices.

Ending the police use of military equipment.

Implementing police union contracts that hold officers accountable for misconduct.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34023751

The relevant portions of the platforms of Clinton, O'Malley and Sanders mirrored what BLM had already written and was disseminating online. And what civil rights activists were writing and sharing prior to the formation of BLM.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
194. That thread reminds me of the Stockholm syndrome
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:11 AM
Aug 2016

question that was asked & answered ad infinitum on an infamous thread here a while back.

BainsBane

(53,072 posts)
220. They aren't progressive
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:51 PM
Aug 2016

Their singular goal is the destruction of the Democratic party and the election of Donald Trump. This has absolutely nothing to do with Bernie, who has endorsed Clinton. It's about Trump humpers. People can pretend to be progressive all day long, but when they prove time and time again that they are opposed to equal rights and insist on electing a racist piece of shit like Trump, they are no different from the the rest of the right whose goals they share.

They don't care about Bernie's policies. That much should be obvious. If they did, they would be supporting the Democratic Party and the platform Bernie helped create. Instead, they promote the GOP, insisting that voting for Trump is necessary to stop Clinton. That is not what people do who care about liberal/leftist/Democratic policies. It is what people do who want to see the country fall in the hands of an unstable narcissist who shares their hatred for the diversity of American society.

Progressive my ass.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
196. Me too.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:16 AM
Aug 2016

Keeps the crazy more in one place.

As a side note, it cracks me up when seemingly every day some bright bulb there posts a thread like:

'I have a great idea! Let's start a new political party!'

Followed by cheers, followed by someone mentioning there's already a bunch of other parties, followed by how their new party will be really different, followed by serious posts about how it takes hard work and organizing to start a viable party, followed by someone saying they're prepared to help do the work, followed by silence.

Then the next day:

'Let's start a brand new political party. It will be awesome!'

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
198. I know, the cycle is hilarious
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:19 AM
Aug 2016

At least this time it occurs offsite and we only have to see it if we feel like it.

Response to bravenak (Original post)

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
190. It really is pathetic
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:03 AM
Aug 2016

Best ignored is true, but is a bit interesting to see what folks are up to.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
197. Agree with you on everything
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:17 AM
Aug 2016

here, except the ignoring part. I mean, you're probably correct about that too. But it's just too damn funny right now.

G_j

(40,372 posts)
238. I didn't quite get that either
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 03:45 PM
Aug 2016

though I can only quess that not getting it, will mark us as "rascists" in the mind of the poster.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
209. Years ago here, a homeless member of DU contacted me, requesting
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:22 AM
Aug 2016

that I take a look at a presentation to be given the following day to a community service organization - I don't recall the details exactly and I never again heard back, but among the things I learned from that exchange (between us), one lesson was this:

There are intelligent people who are homeless, who simply need help from those in society who are not, and are willing to use their time constructively. Most adults wind up at some point or other of growing up into compassionate members of society who really do good with their time, mostly. Some adults never grow up.

And while it's true that many people are simply not capable of helping (for a variety of reasons), other people would rather spend their time gossiping about other people, pointing fingers at 'weird' people, and making snap judgments. Thinking of Eleanor Roosevelt's quip here.

I won't be recommending this thread, and I'll let people here decide who belongs in which category.

ismnotwasm

(42,014 posts)
224. Interesting
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:12 PM
Aug 2016

I've been homeless, and more than once --and I've been on both sides of the behavior you describe. One of the things my time on the street taught me well is the divisions and sub-divisions in society. How easy it is for us to "other" each other with fairly superficial differences. Through in something like race, or sexuality, the the othering is profound, and wide.

My curiosity about this behavior sparked my early interest in politics and made me a feminist. "Helping" also has varying degrees of both intent and effectiveness. "Helping others" can be done as an ego exercise, although arguably that doesn't matter if the help reaches where it needs to go. However, where the ego-driven help hurts, is where the ego doesn't allow for what is actually needed. Sites like JPR, presumably want to "help" but, through ego, have misidentified both the problem and the solution, especially when it comes to black lives. In that way, it causes harm. In that way, it is not a harmless website that should be ignored, but an active and destructive part of part of the Internet, however microscopic in scope.

I have emailed the SLPC about the site, although I don't expect it to grow in any way. I've seen enough.

ismnotwasm

(42,014 posts)
216. Not surprised
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:24 PM
Aug 2016

The original Stolkholm Syndrome poster is prolific over there, as are many supporters of that concept.

Response to bravenak (Original post)

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
229. Well it did get a bit fucking ridiculous with all the accusing Sanders supporters of being racists.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:28 PM
Aug 2016

Oh wait, you re doing it again aren't you. Whatever.

Response to bravenak (Original post)

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
250. Funny thing... They could ignore me but instead they RACE to post on my ops. Funny how important
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:17 PM
Aug 2016

I am to them. They just cannot stay away. Follow me from op to op. I feel sad for them.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
270. Many of us enjoy her posts.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:48 PM
Aug 2016

You have all the power of an adult with modern technology to control your experience here.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
252. How dare you hold up that mirror to white America!!!!!!!!!!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:26 PM
Aug 2016

It obviously really bothers some people.

Some of the posts were.....................troubling, to say the least. Especially so for a Democratic site.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
258. I agree that those BLM activists who supported Hillary made a mistake.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 05:41 PM
Aug 2016

Does that mean I am DEMONIZING them?

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
272. I think that the black lives matter activists who voted for Sanders made the right choice,
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:05 PM
Aug 2016

and those who voted for Clinton made the wrong choice. Others think otherwise.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
289. I dont need to know all of your thoughts about Trump. My voting for him would NEVER be considered.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 10:10 PM
Aug 2016

Unlike many of the posters at that JPR website that was under discussion in this op.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
262. Troll ID is in the eyes of the beholder.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:25 PM
Aug 2016

Funny thing, I foolishly consider trolls to be those who disrupt a discussion, or try to pile on with a bevy of like minded trolls. They come to disrupt with no positive motivation.

Just as you, bravenak, do not represent the owners of this site, the person you attack did not come into your playground to play the dozens.

ismnotwasm

(42,014 posts)
268. The dozens
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:29 PM
Aug 2016

My Dad, of all people told me about that--he was a racist young guy who grew into a racist old guy before he passed on. I wonder if this is what the poster is referring too?



The Dozens is a game of spoken words between two contestants, common in Black communities of the United States, where participants insult each other until one gives up. It is customary for the Dozens to be played in front of an audience of bystanders, who encourage the participants to reply with more egregious insults to heighten the tension and, consequently, to be more interesting to watch. It is also known as "hiking", "roasting", "capping", "clowning", "ranking", "ragging", "rekking", "sounding", "checkin", "joning", "woofing", "wolfing", "sigging", or "signifying",[1][2] while the insults themselves are known as "snaps".[3][4]

Comments in the game focus on the opposite player's intelligence, appearance, competency, social status, financial situation, and disparaging remarks about the other player's family members—mothers in particular ("yo? mama...&quot —are common.





https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dozens


If so, I find it innapropriate given the topic.
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
269. Oh I see. Funny that it must be discussed while discussing anti black attitudes
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:47 PM
Aug 2016

I wonder? Does the poster blame us for our own denigration because we play 'the dozens'? Weird shit goes on here.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
275. Jackpine Radical would be laughing his ass off right now... If he wasn't dead
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:17 PM
Aug 2016

Or rolling over in his grave at this crap.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
276. I knew Jackpine Radical. Jackpine Radical was a good man.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:18 PM
Aug 2016

This absolute desecration of his name makes me want to vomit.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
277. A fellow 'Sconi who was indeed a kind man. It saddens me all the way around.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:29 PM
Aug 2016

I've tried to look at the site but it's layout just makes my head spin.


Upchuck away.


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