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Does Gary Johnson give potheads a bad name? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 OP
He's not exactly Carl Sagan, is he? Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2016 #1
He's very loopy, the whole tongue sticking out thing uponit7771 Sep 2016 #35
No "potheads" do a good job of that all by themselves. former9thward Sep 2016 #2
ha ha stoners derp ha ha derp derp durrr hurr durr Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #8
LOL! Adsos Letter Sep 2016 #9
Boom! RonniePudding Sep 2016 #11
Fuckin A Go Vols Sep 2016 #15
"pot-head" =/= anyone who uses marijuana. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #61
well, there are certainly a lot of nincompoops running around. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Sep 2016 #24
The main problem with Johnson and Bornstein both is they are self-made caricatures... Hekate Sep 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Sep 2016 #66
My husband and I both have conditions that might be helped by cannabis products.... Hekate Sep 2016 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Sep 2016 #73
So when are you going to come out already? n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2016 #30
Maybe you can be more specific. former9thward Sep 2016 #41
There's a self-directed irony in your statement you most likely are unable to perceive. LanternWaste Sep 2016 #56
he sure seems to be reinforcing the stereotypes. rurallib Sep 2016 #3
Potheads GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #4
Paging Archie Bunker...Mr. Archie Bunker RonniePudding Sep 2016 #10
This thread sure seems to be bringing out some weird opinions. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #12
... opiate69 Sep 2016 #18
... Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #20
!! opiate69 Sep 2016 #21
I am not anti pot GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #17
Legalizing pot actually raises tax revenues. azmom Sep 2016 #25
Recreational pot use is probably harmless GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #53
coincidence does not necessarily indicate causation ArcticFox Sep 2016 #31
Being a science major GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #54
We'll keep your fingers crossed you begin illustrating that LanternWaste Sep 2016 #58
I openly admitted GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author TheSarcastinator Sep 2016 #59
It's more like smoking my cancer away. eShirl Sep 2016 #47
I've known some smart... Mike Nelson Sep 2016 #5
The question was not whether he could name a world leader. former9thward Sep 2016 #7
Only the ones that support him n/t Stargleamer Sep 2016 #6
Now at midnight, all the agents.. and the super human crew Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #13
I always think of Cheney when I hear that verse. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2016 #29
they all play on the penny whistle, yes, you can hear them blow Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #37
I wasn't aware of his pot use. If anything, he certainly gives libertarians a bad name. tenderfoot Sep 2016 #14
libertarians are right on a couple things, batshit bonkers on everything else. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #19
I can grow grapes Go Vols Sep 2016 #16
Duuuude, he's right up there with Doc Bornstein. Hekate Sep 2016 #22
Trump, Christie, Pence and Cruz don't smoke marijuana at all. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #23
Is it okay if we use our powers of observation on a person by person basis? Hekate Sep 2016 #26
Of course, but that sort of negates the entire point of this thread. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #33
I'm not exactly sure what the point of the thread is any more, but see #44 Hekate Sep 2016 #46
I don't know what constitutes older. Most of the time, that's me, except when I'm on DU Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #48
Oh well my lawn is all wood chips now as part of drought control, so I don't bother evicting anyone Hekate Sep 2016 #50
heh, yeah, once I googled the name I figured out who he was. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #51
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #36
Gary....??????? Just who is Gary Johnson? Lint Head Sep 2016 #27
My concern about him is he would take votes away from Hillary. rusty quoin Sep 2016 #28
He's not doing them any good... Raine Sep 2016 #32
"they" are about to legalize marijuana in the 8th largest economy in the world. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #34
Democrats are leading that charge, not Libertarians. joshcryer Sep 2016 #38
And a good thing, too. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #39
I think Johnson would be a terrible leader for this cause. joshcryer Sep 2016 #40
Well you know who I'm voting for, Josh. Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #42
I know. joshcryer Sep 2016 #52
The answer is hell yes. nilesobek Sep 2016 #43
Gary is woefully unqualified to lead any country. StrictlyRockers Sep 2016 #45
Sure, and homophobic bigots, child abusing priests and young Earth creationists Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #49
Lolz...he should've stuck to pot! JNelson6563 Sep 2016 #55
No, but he sure gives third party candidates bad name etherealtruth Sep 2016 #57
Potheads give potheads a bad name. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #60
in the pantheon on people who are obnoxious, annoying & generally unpleasant to hang out with Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #64
Still better than judgemental people Calculating Sep 2016 #65
"Pothead" is another ginned-up stereotype: A means of attacking a group without Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #67
He smokes dope? Rex Sep 2016 #68
No. But the attempt to link the two on DU persists. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #69
Stuff it Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #71
Same to 'ya, Stinky. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #74
Brilliant post title ! kentuck Sep 2016 #72

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
8. ha ha stoners derp ha ha derp derp durrr hurr durr
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 10:56 PM
Sep 2016

Yep, stellar displays of intelligence are pretty easy to distinguish from the people who are fucking imbeciles.

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
11. Boom!
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:10 PM
Sep 2016

The anti-pot kink some have had on DU lately is quite odd. The 80's and Just Say No are over, folks.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
61. "pot-head" =/= anyone who uses marijuana.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:18 AM
Sep 2016

Potheads are the nincompoops who are center their lives around pot, are obsessed with 4-20 references, have zero ambition because the weed destroyed all of it, and think it's a miracle cure for every illness.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
63. well, there are certainly a lot of nincompoops running around.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 10:51 AM
Sep 2016

getting high isn't going to make an idiot Albert Einstein, but then neither is filling their head with a lot of arrogant, self-validating bullshit.

Response to former9thward (Reply #2)

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
44. The main problem with Johnson and Bornstein both is they are self-made caricatures...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:08 AM
Sep 2016

I live in California and have voted to legalize pot every time it's been on the ballot. It's way past time to do that. Prohibition of alcohol was a resounding failure, too.

But smoking the stuff gives me asthma, which erodes the cool factor considerably for me. I much prefer a good Scotch whiskey.

My issue with Johnson and Bornstein is what I already said: they are caricatures, which is why I was all "Duuuuude." They invite ridicule in my political world -- and Stinky is right: they're not helping.

Response to Hekate (Reply #44)

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
70. My husband and I both have conditions that might be helped by cannabis products....
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:19 PM
Sep 2016

I turned 69 this week (and as I said to someone else: I want to know how the hell that happened, since I distinctly remember being a feisty middle ager when I joined DU almost 15 years ago) ... So just extrapolate some of the usual ills the flesh is heir to, plus for decades he's had colitis and I've had fibromyalgia.

I would not mind giving it a try. Our next door neighbor smokes it for his migraines. Another friend swears by it for a good night's sleep with her arthritis. My son has a seizure disorder and getting the right medication that doesn't leave him dopey has me fervently wishing he could legally obtain that product developed in Colorado. And so it goes.

As for recreational use, since college days in the 1960s I've felt it should be in the same category as liquor.

Response to Hekate (Reply #70)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
56. There's a self-directed irony in your statement you most likely are unable to perceive.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 08:37 AM
Sep 2016

There's a self-directed irony in your statement you most likely are unable to perceive... which makes it even more bemusing.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
3. he sure seems to be reinforcing the stereotypes.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:45 PM
Sep 2016

Course, he's not doing Libertarians much of a favor either.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
4. Potheads
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:56 PM
Sep 2016

Need no help in getting a bad name.

That said, if they want to smoke their life away, more power to them.

As long as they are earning the money they spend on pot.

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
10. Paging Archie Bunker...Mr. Archie Bunker
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:06 PM
Sep 2016

Lots of posters with a weird anti pot kink showing up on DU lately.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. This thread sure seems to be bringing out some weird opinions.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:10 PM
Sep 2016

I wonder what they have in their itunes library- new kids on the block? Ted Nugent? KISS?

Get rid of all the rock and roll, jazz, blues, etc. made by "potheads", and it's a pretty bare fucking cupboard.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
17. I am not anti pot
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:19 PM
Sep 2016

If you want to smoke it I think you should be able to. But most potheads I know lack ambition. And that's fine. It's a free country.

As long as my tax money is not used to pay for the pot I am fine with it.

And I support universal health care and guaranteed housing, even for pot heads.

I find that recreational pot users are pretty good citizens. But chronics are unbearable.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
53. Recreational pot use is probably harmless
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:16 AM
Sep 2016

And I support legalization.

But every single pothead I have ever known has one ambition...to get high. I know that my experience does not mean shit, as I am one person among 300 million and I am sure there are super ambitious potheads. I just have not met one.

And I should define pothead-a person that uses daily. We would be a much safer and heathy country if all the folks that got shit-faced drunk every weekend got high instead.

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
31. coincidence does not necessarily indicate causation
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:02 AM
Sep 2016

Not even correlation can be assumed to prove causation. The causation could always be in the other direction, or due to some other unmeasured factor for example.

Those folks you find lacking in ambition might be just as lacking without pot. Many people with little ambition never even thought to try pot.

Please educate yourself. I think you'll learn that studies finding significant impairment rely on administering ungodly amounts of thc.

Do you understand scientific method enough to know the meaning of statistical significance, controls, peer review?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
54. Being a science major
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:30 AM
Sep 2016

I am pretty sure I understand the scientific method.

I also understand that humans are really good at discerning patterns, and lacking a peer reviewed, controlled study we depend on the patterns we see in our life to shape our views.

And one pattern I have seen for the last 50 years is that every person I have know that uses pot daily has one ambition. And that is to get high. As a man educated in the sciences I understand that my experiences are limited.

My comment about chronic pot users being intolerable is driven by the fact that every person I know that uses pot daily is super defensive about their use. They complain endlessly about how little money they have, but will never admit that their pot use has anything to do with it. Again, I know there are tons of people who smoke pot that have lots of money and ambition. But every habitual user of pot I know does not have a pot to piss in.

I do not smoke. I support legalization. But good luck trying to make me see that there is no problem with using daily.

Have a great day.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
58. We'll keep your fingers crossed you begin illustrating that
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 08:40 AM
Sep 2016

"I am pretty sure I understand the scientific method..."

We'll keep your fingers crossed you begin illustrating that, rather than predicating a sentiment on a flawed sample, regardless of the pots you allege to piss in.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
62. I openly admitted
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 10:13 AM
Sep 2016

I have limited experience and that my experience may not be representative of the big picture.

But they are still my experiences, and we all shape our beliefs off our experiences. And I hardly think I am alone in thinking folks that use pot daily have issues.

So I guess we will just disagree on some things. But where it matters, we actually agree...legalization.

Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #54)

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
5. I've known some smart...
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:59 PM
Sep 2016

...ones and some not-so-smart ones. Johnson should step down. He can't name a world leader and he wants to be one. I think he should have an interest in current events, also. Weld should be rethinking his participation in this third party run.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
7. The question was not whether he could name a world leader.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 10:39 PM
Sep 2016

He was asked which world leader(s) he respected. If he does not respect any then that is a fair answer.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
13. Now at midnight, all the agents.. and the super human crew
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:13 PM
Sep 2016

go and round up everyone, who knows more than they do

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
19. libertarians are right on a couple things, batshit bonkers on everything else.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:22 PM
Sep 2016

Yeah, consenting adults should be left alone about what chemicals they choose to put in their own bodies or if they want to watch hairy granny porn on the internet, and I think as smart progressives we should be pushing for a strong personal freedom agenda in our party (example: Most Americans support marijuana legalization) to draw off that appeal from the (L)s-

--but the rest of it is bugfuck bonkers Ayn Rand privatize the fire department shit.

Still, people who support the Libertarians want a Lassiez-faire foreign policy, or better yet one that is fully checked out from the rest of the world. So honestly GJ's answers aren't that shocking nor do I think they really cost him with his base.



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
23. Trump, Christie, Pence and Cruz don't smoke marijuana at all.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:43 PM
Sep 2016

What is it about not smoking pot that turns people into barely sentient, pompous, full of shit assholes?

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
26. Is it okay if we use our powers of observation on a person by person basis?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:03 AM
Sep 2016

Bornstein looks and acts so stoned I couldn't believe what I was seeing in that interview. He kind of giggled. His co-ordination was loosey-goosey. His posture was so lax as to be nearly boneless. He acted like he thought the whole issue of his excuse note for Donnie was a joke.

Johnson has this deer in the lights look. He did this kind of little dance during one recent interview. When asked if he felt anything about possibly being a spoiler he literally carolled "Goody goody!" His posture and demeanor are not as bad as Bornstein's, but that's not saying a lot. He doesn't seem to grasp the essentials of the presidential job and repeatedly flubs perfectly normal questions. But on that last, so does Trump, to be fair.

As for the other people you mention, my Dad used to sing a little song of his own invention regarding the clueless asshles of the world: "Oh the world is full of idiots."

Yes it still is, Dad. Rest in peace.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
33. Of course, but that sort of negates the entire point of this thread.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:27 AM
Sep 2016

Also it'd be nice if some in our party would stop treating cannabis legalization like a giant joke, instead of the serious issue, supported now by a majority of Americans, that it is.

Seems to me, the easiest way to undercut a good chunk of Johnson's 'spoiler' appeal- esp. to Millennials, right quick, would be... well, no use in belaboring the point.


Sorry, for your loss. I miss my Dad, too.

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
46. I'm not exactly sure what the point of the thread is any more, but see #44
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:14 AM
Sep 2016

As for Dad, he passed some 20 years ago.... Mom about 10 years ago. I'm now the older generation myself.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
48. I don't know what constitutes older. Most of the time, that's me, except when I'm on DU
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:32 AM
Sep 2016

at which point my dangerously youthful and impertinent attitudes on things like sex scenes on HBO or that cellphones and selfies aren't, actually, destroying the fabric of the spacetime continuum, tend to get me angrily exiled from the lawn forthwith.

Johnson is goofy, I don't even know who that other person is-- okay, Trump's doctor? Sure, fine, but shit, no one could be more mysterious than Melania's mystery speechwriter.

Whatever Meredith McIver is smoking, apparently it makes you invisible. I WANT SOME OF THAT.

But no, no one who has bothered to find out what the Libertarians are about, is going to take them or Gary Johnson seriously. But we all know that, already, that's why we're on DU. The angle I'm coming at it from is; since we (as solid progressives) all support personal freedom and ending the drug war anyway, right-- how to best undercut what appeal GJ has, particularly with millennials, when most of that is driven by support for pot legalization, which is seen as being taken only lukewarm serious at the national level by the DNC?

We have good leaders out here, Newsom, Merkley, to be sure.. and it's worth noting (as I have noted repeatedly) that in Oregon where the state Democratic party is firmly behind things like legal cannabis and our stronger-than-the-1st-Amendment free speech protections, personal end of life choice-- in short, a consistent pro-individual freedom tack combined with solid progressive communitarian values; see where I'm going with this? The (L) party up here is a JOKE.

And Democrats do consistently well in terms of performance and turnout, even in crappy off nat'l years like 2014.

I can't tell Gary Johnson what to do, but I don't see the value, political or otherwise, in making fun of or belittling people for whom cannabis legalization is actually an important issue at the polls. Insulting Millennials who are considering voting Libertarian because of that issue is probably not the best way to win them over.

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
50. Oh well my lawn is all wood chips now as part of drought control, so I don't bother evicting anyone
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:57 AM
Sep 2016

....from it, including the skunk who takes her evening perambulations across it. I wish the gophers who've colonized it would take a hike though.

But I digress. So easy to do. When I joined DU 15 years ago I thought of myself as middle aged, so I want to know how in hell I turned 69 day before yesterday. I've never in my life felt so ambivalent about the odometer turning over, but I assure you I was in college in the 1960s.

But as a former high school classmate said recently: Any day above ground is a good day. So there you have it.

Yes, Bornstein is Trump's version of Dr Feelgood. There was a lot of discussion here when he had his interview with cameras rolling. People were divided between thinking he has some form of dementia or thinking he was stoned out of his gourd. (a phrase from my youth)

Oops, it's 3 am again. Talk to you tomorrow -- and enjoy HBO.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
51. heh, yeah, once I googled the name I figured out who he was.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 06:14 AM
Sep 2016

I stay way away from Cable "newz" so I've never actually heard him speak; but when I first saw his picture a month or so ago I think I said he looked like the bastard hybrid child of Gene Simmons and Howard Stern. Not what you would call a good look.

You have a good night, too. And happy belated Birthday!

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
28. My concern about him is he would take votes away from Hillary.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:21 AM
Sep 2016

There's irony. He's against all things Democratic Party, but his liking pot could hurt our party.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
34. "they" are about to legalize marijuana in the 8th largest economy in the world.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:29 AM
Sep 2016

Prohibitionists are going to need to get over their bad selves and their little control fetish.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
38. Democrats are leading that charge, not Libertarians.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:42 AM
Sep 2016

Libertarians cannot lay exclusive claim to this issue anymore.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
40. I think Johnson would be a terrible leader for this cause.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:48 AM
Sep 2016

But I take umbrage with how the OP phrased the question. In reality Johnson is really a terrible advocate for anything, an embarrassment.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
42. Well you know who I'm voting for, Josh.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:48 AM
Sep 2016


But just so we're clear, the "they" in my post up there referred to legalization proponents (or, in the OP's vernacular, "potheads", hurr durr) not Libertarians.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
52. I know.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 06:36 AM
Sep 2016

Wasn't disagreeing with your comments in this thread. More wanting to make a point against the OP's shit generalization.

(But yeah we pot legalizers should be kinda glad he's not our leader; the Democrats and their leaders in the states are way better than he could ever be.)

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
43. The answer is hell yes.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:39 AM
Sep 2016

This Johnson guy is just dense period. He has been lightly rinsed in Libertarian ideology. Kicking grandma to the curb and cutting social programs flows smoothly from his mouth but he doesn't know or care about pressing world issues.

A vote for this idiot is a vote for Trump. And I'm really ripped on some legal top shelf buds from across the river of this border town to Wa. State. It does give pot a bad name.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
45. Gary is woefully unqualified to lead any country.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:14 AM
Sep 2016

I think the problem is that he gave up smoking herb a long time ago. Smoking the herb expands your mind and makes you smarter. There is no doubt about this. Do your research, and get with the times, oldsters.

There is broad agreement that ganja is a boon for society in many ways. The Colorado experiment has been an unqualified success. You can't argue with results. This is why NINE (9!) states are voting to increase access to marijuana in November.

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/states-vote-expanding-legal-access-marijuana-42410099

From California, with its counterculture heritage, to the fishing ports and mill towns of Maine, millions of Americans in nine states have a chance to vote Nov. 8 on expanding legal access to marijuana. Collectively, the ballot measures amount to the closest the U.S. has come to a national referendum on the drug.

Five states — Arizona, California, Maine, Massachusetts and Nevada — will consider legalizing the recreational use of pot. Three others — Florida, Arkansas and North Dakota — will decide whether to permit marijuana for medical purposes. Montana will weigh whether to ease restrictions on an existing medical marijuana law.

As the most populous state, with a reputation for trend-setting, California is attracting the most attention — and money — in an intensifying debate over Proposition 64.

Silicon Valley tycoons and deep-pocketed donors with connections to the legal medical marijuana industry are among the top financial backers of a pro-pot campaign that has raised almost $17 million. Opponents have raised slightly more than $2 million, including a $1.4 million contribution from retired Pennsylvania art professor Julie Schauer.

Advocates on both sides say passage in California would likely ignite legalization movements in other states, especially when the tax dollars start adding up. California's nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office estimated the state could collect up to $1 billion a year in marijuana taxes.

"As California goes, so goes the nation," said University of California, Berkeley political science professor Alan Ross.

<...>

__________________________________________________________________

People can whine about the changing times all they want, nevertheless the times are a'changin'. If you're on the wrong side of history on this issue, do yourself and the country a favor and do something to expand your mind. The whole world is waking up on this. Herb is a sacrament. It deserves respect. I'd bet that it's legal nation-wide in ten years. Acting holier than thou on this subject only reveals your ignorance and your regressive attitude.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
49. Sure, and homophobic bigots, child abusing priests and young Earth creationists
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:41 AM
Sep 2016

give Christians a bad name.

One difference, though, no one in the US is being sent to prison on the taxpayer's dime, for going to church.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
55. Lolz...he should've stuck to pot!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:50 AM
Sep 2016

Sorry but unless he's doing wax from the moment he wakes til he drops into bed there's no way pot can make you that fucking stupid. He's either naturally dumb or he's indulging in something stronger than pot. Maybe he's a heavy drinker?

Many of the pearl clutching, fainting couch occupiers on this thread would shit themselves if they had to do one of my work days cold sober. I find the high stress, fast paced pressure cooker situation I deal with is far less stressful when a little herb is applied (medical grade). Somehow I manage to keep many things straight and do the difficult parts everyone else does their best to get out of. They have no clue I imbibe.

But then again, I'm not a fucking idiot like Johnson.



Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
64. in the pantheon on people who are obnoxious, annoying & generally unpleasant to hang out with
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:12 AM
Sep 2016

I'd put chronic stoners pretty far down the list below some other types.

At least the stoners, in my experience, keep to themselves, like a good time, have a sense of humor and don't think they have some misplaced moral authority to judge other people, glass-houses style.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
67. "Pothead" is another ginned-up stereotype: A means of attacking a group without
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:15 PM
Sep 2016

Catching flak for it. The average "regular" pot user smokes less than a joint a week. Which might suggest how "addictive" it is.

I see very few references to JFK, Bing Crosby or Louis Armstrong as "potheads," even though the latter two publicly called for its legalization numerous times.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
69. No. But the attempt to link the two on DU persists.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:18 PM
Sep 2016


It's about time Democrats break the habit of utilizing prohibition as social policy.

Stinky The Clown

(67,789 posts)
71. Stuff it
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:28 PM
Sep 2016

No reading of the OP implies this is a bash on "potheads". It is asking if Gary Johnson, a known pot smoker/advocate, who is a dumb as a post, gives them a bad name.

It was as much tongue in cheek as anything.

But you carry on with your feeling of outrage.

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