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lunatica

(53,410 posts)
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:48 PM Oct 2016

Trump will be worse after he loses the election

He's got a following now. A rabidly salivating mob of followers the likes of which even Sara Palin never had. He will make not only Hillary's Presidency a nightmare for her and us but he'll go after every Republican in Congress with a vengeance.

Anyone who can trot four wronged women into a debate to embarrass Hillary in the most public way that's possible is incapable of reaching a low they won't go to willingly. He actually wanted the women to walk up to Bill Clinton and shake hands with him before they were to sit with his family in the elevated box. The Director of the debate wouldn't let it happen so what we know about Trump's actions during the debate are only what he actually got away with doing. And the fact he did this has brought up a revulsion so intense in me that it makes me feel sick.

He's even promised to do worse, and I'm convinced that he will when he loses. Just like he acted like a dog with his bone about his odious birtherism he will go after Hillary and all the members of Congress. Democrats for being Democrats and Republicans for shunning him. Only he'll have his base of raging minions to call upon to poison everything. Trump is a sore loser as we've learned. He's vindictive and he gets even.

We're in for long years ahead of watching him tear every last shred of decency from our society. He's got his army at his beck and call now.

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Trump will be worse after he loses the election (Original Post) lunatica Oct 2016 OP
I disagree.. chillfactor Oct 2016 #1
who really cares.....we are the cure to the hate.... beachbum bob Oct 2016 #2
After the years of them going after Bill and Hillary and Obama lunatica Oct 2016 #6
this is THE turning point in american politics and one reason why russia is doing what they can beachbum bob Oct 2016 #8
Thanks. That is hopeful lunatica Oct 2016 #10
We will have to get tougher Lifelong Protester Oct 2016 #3
I'm old too, and I hope you're right lunatica Oct 2016 #7
But he won't have his thumb hovering above a nuclear weapon. In_The_Wind Oct 2016 #9
I disagree karynnj Oct 2016 #11
I expect, after his loss, he'll be unhinged, & will lash out mindlessly at any & everything he can… Journeyman Oct 2016 #12
He's an attention whore who will try to retain his followers. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #13
He'll need free media time to do that calguy Oct 2016 #17
There have been rumors of a "Trump TV" network. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #19
Trump won't self fund it though, and I doubt many advertisers are going to want that association. bluesbassman Oct 2016 #22
I hope you're right! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Oct 2016 #15
Only if it's close. If it's a blowout he'll have less standing. NightWatcher Oct 2016 #16
All eyes should be on his followers Runningdawg Oct 2016 #20
The media should black out his ass Cakes488 Oct 2016 #24
Unless, and until, he's been frogmarched by the cops meow2u3 Oct 2016 #40
The best possible outcome: FigTree Oct 2016 #25
First off he will probably lose his business INdemo Oct 2016 #26
He'll be like a televangelist. lpbk2713 Oct 2016 #27
He'll surely try whatthehey Oct 2016 #29
I don't care tman Oct 2016 #30
After he loses the election he won't have the Executive Branch... JHB Oct 2016 #31
I don't think he'll concede. BlueStater Oct 2016 #32
He won't get the tv coverage so I don't flippin care. lindysalsagal Oct 2016 #34
He has to be totaly ignored......... mrmpa Oct 2016 #37
I've been wondering.... sofa king Oct 2016 #41
If there is a landslide, and there will be...(he could lose by 10 to 15 million) Stuart G Oct 2016 #42
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chillfactor

(7,579 posts)
1. I disagree..
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:52 PM
Oct 2016

t'rump is going to be so entangled in legal problems I do not believe he will have much time for much of anything else. I believe the threat actually comes from his salivating followers.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. After the years of them going after Bill and Hillary and Obama
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:00 PM
Oct 2016

I care. It's exhausting and demoralizing. Without the resistance from the GOP we would surely be much further along in things that matter, like dealing with climate change, our infrastructure and any number of things.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
8. this is THE turning point in american politics and one reason why russia is doing what they can
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:05 PM
Oct 2016

once trump has destroyed the rightwing, democrats will now dominate and change the direction of conservative obstruction on all issues.....the naming of 3 moderate-left supreme court will rid america of corporate purchasing of elections with a reversal of citizens united....THAT is MAJOR accomplishment and the elimination of dark money in politics

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
3. We will have to get tougher
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:53 PM
Oct 2016

We can do it! I'm old, and I have faith in the younger generation that won't stand for his crapola!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
7. I'm old too, and I hope you're right
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:02 PM
Oct 2016

I have great hopes for the younger people. They're very different from us in so many ways. For one, they're global in consciousness because they can reach every part of the world with their gadgets. It's truly a different paradigm.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
11. I disagree
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:17 PM
Oct 2016

He loses the platform he has and , unlike any nominee I can think of, is unlikely to be given at least some respect as one of the party's former leaders. He has burned bridges everywhere with media and politicians - as he is the nominee, they are still treating him with some deference. I predict that ends.

Trump will be an angry sore loser. He likely will continue to lead a portion of his angry base. However, I suspect that as soon as he loses, the vast majority of that angry base will turn on him .. and that will not be pretty. He set himself up as their savior and he lost. In addition, they will argue that their message would have prevailed and what defeated it was that he was a terrible, very flawed messenger. They would claim the reasons were things like not paying taxes, his terrible exploitation of small businesses he cheated and the disgusting, piggish way he treated women. They will say NONE of these things reflect them.

Consider that both McCain and Romney, men of considerable achievement and who ran better campaigns (even with all their flaws) were blamed for those loses. Then consider how many republicans the thin skinned obnoxious Trump has thrashed in ways I have seen no nominee in either party use. As soon as he loses, there will be a race to claim that they were prescient that he should never have been the nominee.

I suspect, or maybe hope, that this years election will show elected officials that there are down sides for being WITH the far right as well as being AGAINST them and the former might in many many cases be bigger. I would guess that this might be the final wake up call for Republicans if they want their party to be theirs.

Journeyman

(15,036 posts)
12. I expect, after his loss, he'll be unhinged, & will lash out mindlessly at any & everything he can…
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:18 PM
Oct 2016

I also believe his ravings will go off the deep end quickly and that this, combined with the loss of any possibility that he will attain political power, will cause most of his followers to drift away from him in disillusion and despair. He'll soon be relegated to the same dustbin of history currently housing Palin and the ghost of McCarthy. Oh, certainly, someone will rise to take his place, to lead those disaffected souls who look to autocrats like Trump to lead them to whatever promise land is popular at the time, but the spell broken, the possibility of action cut off and political power beyond his grasp, Trump will fade into the broken, aging caricature he will soon be seen to be.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
13. He's an attention whore who will try to retain his followers.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:24 PM
Oct 2016

He might indeed inspire some of them to do something drastic and wicked... and all for the sake of his ego.

Since he's a sociopath, he won't care.

calguy

(5,324 posts)
17. He'll need free media time to do that
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 01:50 PM
Oct 2016

Once he gets totally defeated and embarrassed I doubt many networks, even FOX, will be as willing to pick up the phone and listen to his rants. He's going to be "so last year" very quickly.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
19. There have been rumors of a "Trump TV" network.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:01 PM
Oct 2016


http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/19/media/donald-trump-tv/index.html
Breitbart News executive chairman Steve Bannon's new role on the Trump campaign has rekindled talk about a Trump-branded conservative media venture -- potentially something that would challenge Fox News from the right.
After Election Day, if Hillary Clinton wins, Trump's anti-media campaign could naturally turn into a marketing pitch like this: "The media rigged the election against us. That's why we need our own channel."
Trump already has the advisers he needs, including Bannon; son-in-law and newspaper owner Jared Kushner; and longtime friend and former Fox News boss Roger Ailes.

bluesbassman

(19,378 posts)
22. Trump won't self fund it though, and I doubt many advertisers are going to want that association.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:37 PM
Oct 2016

His "brand" is seriously tarnished now. He'll be lucky to get a late night spot on QVC selling Trump's Industrial Strength hairspray.

Response to lunatica (Original post)

Runningdawg

(4,522 posts)
20. All eyes should be on his followers
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:17 PM
Oct 2016

While DT might be preoccupied with all the BS he's piled up in the courts recently or his own failing brand, his followers are not. God I really hate to use this analogy, but damned if I can find another more suited....Hitler was not elected the first time he ran for office. It took random acts of violence by his supporters to finally place him in power.
I don't see Trump coming to power by coup, but I most certainly foresee his most unhinged followers engaging in domestic terrorism in the near future.

meow2u3

(24,767 posts)
40. Unless, and until, he's been frogmarched by the cops
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 07:12 PM
Oct 2016

for treason and sedition. What he's doing is trying to overthrow the government and make himself dictator, conspiring with his inner circle to try to prevent a free and fair election.

FigTree

(347 posts)
25. The best possible outcome:
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:46 PM
Oct 2016

Gather all these bizarre people in a third party, where they could feel at home and do their thing, like in some European countries. There's some profit in that, both financial and psychological, so I can see the little man doing it.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
26. First off he will probably lose his business
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:52 PM
Oct 2016

and second he is not a billionaire and he will find it difficult to get a loan from major banks..
Maybe in Russia but not here

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
27. He'll be like a televangelist.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 02:58 PM
Oct 2016



"Keep them donations coming in friends and neighbors so we can make America great again."




whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
29. He'll surely try
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 03:19 PM
Oct 2016

But outside the dregs of the far-right newstainment shows he's going to find it a lot harder to get free media when he's not doing a destructive vanity run for President. If he wants to keep the spotlight on he may have to settle for some lower office sinecure such as a Congressional seat in some deep red gerrymandered upstate boonies to maintain a semblance of relevance to politics, or take a "job" as a Hannity clone. His ego will likely rebel against either.

Trump TV? Who would advertise on it? Pay access internet? No lasting market for that with RWNJ loons free for the asking. He's basically a super-Palin at best after the election, and for the same reasons. Now I DO think a bunch of his unstable and delusional followers (but I repeat myself) will ramp up the militia bit, but we had that with Clinton I and while it had some horrible effects like OKC, there was no widespread or lasting sociopolitical upheaval. We'll see the same most likely under Clinton II with Trump playing a minor role in egging on the deplorables as long as he can maintain plausible deniability.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
31. After he loses the election he won't have the Executive Branch...
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 04:28 PM
Oct 2016

...at his disposal to abuse.

He can rail and scream and incite, but he'll have no real power.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
32. I don't think he'll concede.
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 04:53 PM
Oct 2016

If there's one thing this man-baby can't stand to be, it's being a loser. He'll pound the "election is rigged" thing into the ground and then he might actually go too far. He'll incite his most deranged supporters into rioting or causing violence and then he'll finally get his ass thrown into jail.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
37. He has to be totaly ignored.........
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 05:28 PM
Oct 2016

by the media. He must not be treated like a high or respected member of the political scene. Just like Romney disappeared, so must Trump.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
41. I've been wondering....
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 07:23 PM
Oct 2016

... If the "Presidential move" on Mrs. Clinton's part might be to bail out on the final Presidential debate. She has it in the bag now and from a national security standpoint it might be wise not to allow Hitlerkist to have another national audience.

Politically, it wouldn't be the wisest move. With the House suddenly in reach, the more exposure Trump gets, the better for us. But from a longer view, we have an aspiring tyrant inexorably gaining a permanent following.

Nah, fuck that. It's time to (Orange) Crush the tyrant!

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
42. If there is a landslide, and there will be...(he could lose by 10 to 15 million)
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 08:25 PM
Oct 2016

Trump will not be able to blame anyone but himself...surely with that kind of loss he cannot say it is rigged..There are many Republicans who will not vote for him. They are very quiet about this, but they will not vote for him..These people will stay home or vote for Hillary or another..There are millions of Republicans who will not vote for him, he is a pervert...

Hillary will get over 50 percent he will get no more than 37 percent...He cannot lie his way out of that. That debate did it in for him..His lurking ugly look, .jail Hillary statement,.. as well as the pervert tape,.. Lots of people who are Republicans .. will not vote for him. They do not want that lurking pervert to be President of the United States..Now, the polls won't show it, but when the vote is in, he will lose, and lose big. That loss will slide the asshole into the same empty place that Sara Palin is in now..

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