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macwriter

(172 posts)
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:04 PM Nov 2016

Don't buy into the tightening race BS -- check out the comparison with 2012

Let’s take a breath and add some perspective. Here’s are comparisons for Obama in 2012 at this EXACT time in the election cycle and this EXACT time for Clinton. With the state breakdown, the third line is the actual results of 2012.

2012 – Obama strongly Dem and likely Dem – 237
Romney strongly GOP and likely GOP – 191

2016 – Clinton strongly Dem and likely Dem – 264
Trump strongly GOP and likely GOP – 152

STATES:

FL – 2016 - CLINTON – 46/TRUMP 44
2012 – OBAMA 48/ROMNEY 48
2012 RESULTS OBAMA 50/ROMNEY 49

NC -- 2016 - CLINTON – 46/TRUMP 44
2012 – OBAMA 46/ROMNEY 48
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 48/ROMNEY 51

PA 2016 - CLINTON – 49/TRUMP 40
2012 – OBAMA 50/ROMNEY 45
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 52/ROMNEY 47

CO 2016 - CLINTON – 43/TRUMP 39
2012 – OBAMA 47/ROMNEY 48
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 51/ROMNEY 47

NV 2016 - CLINTON – 45/TRUMP 42
2012 – OBAMA 50/ROMNEY 47
2012 RESULTS OBAMA 52/ROMNEY 46

WI 2016 - CLINTON – 47/TRUMP 42
2012 – OBAMA 50/ROMNEY 46
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 53/ROMNEY 46

MI 2016 - CLINTON – 45/TRUMP 40
2012 – OBAMA 51/ROMNEY 44
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 54/ROMNEY 45

NH 2016 - CLINTON – 46/TRUMP 39
2012 – OBAMA 49/ROMNEY 48
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 52/ROMNEY 46

VA 2016 - CLINTON – 48/TRUMP 41
2012 – OBAMA 47/ROMNEY 47
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 51/ROMNEY 48

NM 2016 CLINTON – 45/TRUMP 33
2012 – OBAMA 52/ROMNEY 43
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 53/ROMNEY 43

HERE’S THE LINK – FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I TRANSPOSED A NUMBER, BUT OBSERVE THAT WE WERE ALL PROBABLY AT HIGH ANXIETY LEVELS THEN, TOO. JUST LESS POLLS AND NO COMEY.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

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Don't buy into the tightening race BS -- check out the comparison with 2012 (Original Post) macwriter Nov 2016 OP
Interesting numbers. kentuck Nov 2016 #1
I'll be honest ... 20895DEM Nov 2016 #2
Well, if democrats are motivated by anxiety, then we are going to be really motivated this election. LisaL Nov 2016 #6
I am a brown immigrant. Let's compare anxiety levels, shall we? I've had no fingernails since June. 20895DEM Nov 2016 #7
Welcome to DU and America awoke_in_2003 Nov 2016 #8
thanks for posting thanks! 0ccy01 Nov 2016 #3
John Harwood says both sides agree that this is a six point race. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #4
Yup this thing is over Egnever Nov 2016 #5

20895DEM

(100 posts)
2. I'll be honest ...
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:17 PM
Nov 2016

Having seen a few Presidential election cycles in the US, I have come to learn what motivates the bases.

Republicans are motivated by anger
Democrats are motivated by fear and anxiety.

The whole "race is tightening" could motivate the Democrats out of fear. All the pollsters measure the Enthusiasm gap, but none of them measure the Fear and Anxiety gap. If they did, DEMS would win hands down. Also hopefully motivates the Hispanic voters to vote. It does little for the Republicans.

So I think it could help us even if we think it is BS.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. Well, if democrats are motivated by anxiety, then we are going to be really motivated this election.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 07:18 PM
Nov 2016

0ccy01

(18 posts)
3. thanks for posting thanks!
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:21 PM
Nov 2016

I know in Florida she's down with black voters by 4 points in early voting but up with Hispanic by 4.5 compared to 2012. I think enthusiasm isn't any worse now then what is was in 2012. I fact I think it's higher this year than for O in 2012.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
4. John Harwood says both sides agree that this is a six point race.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 07:07 PM
Nov 2016

That is 2 more than Obama in 2012 and 1 less than 2008.

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