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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDon't buy into the tightening race BS -- check out the comparison with 2012
Lets take a breath and add some perspective. Heres are comparisons for Obama in 2012 at this EXACT time in the election cycle and this EXACT time for Clinton. With the state breakdown, the third line is the actual results of 2012.
2012 Obama strongly Dem and likely Dem 237
Romney strongly GOP and likely GOP 191
2016 Clinton strongly Dem and likely Dem 264
Trump strongly GOP and likely GOP 152
STATES:
FL 2016 - CLINTON 46/TRUMP 44
2012 OBAMA 48/ROMNEY 48
2012 RESULTS OBAMA 50/ROMNEY 49
NC -- 2016 - CLINTON 46/TRUMP 44
2012 OBAMA 46/ROMNEY 48
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 48/ROMNEY 51
PA 2016 - CLINTON 49/TRUMP 40
2012 OBAMA 50/ROMNEY 45
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 52/ROMNEY 47
CO 2016 - CLINTON 43/TRUMP 39
2012 OBAMA 47/ROMNEY 48
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 51/ROMNEY 47
NV 2016 - CLINTON 45/TRUMP 42
2012 OBAMA 50/ROMNEY 47
2012 RESULTS OBAMA 52/ROMNEY 46
WI 2016 - CLINTON 47/TRUMP 42
2012 OBAMA 50/ROMNEY 46
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 53/ROMNEY 46
MI 2016 - CLINTON 45/TRUMP 40
2012 OBAMA 51/ROMNEY 44
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 54/ROMNEY 45
NH 2016 - CLINTON 46/TRUMP 39
2012 OBAMA 49/ROMNEY 48
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 52/ROMNEY 46
VA 2016 - CLINTON 48/TRUMP 41
2012 OBAMA 47/ROMNEY 47
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 51/ROMNEY 48
NM 2016 CLINTON 45/TRUMP 33
2012 OBAMA 52/ROMNEY 43
2012 RESULTS - OBAMA 53/ROMNEY 43
HERES THE LINK FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME IF I TRANSPOSED A NUMBER, BUT OBSERVE THAT WE WERE ALL PROBABLY AT HIGH ANXIETY LEVELS THEN, TOO. JUST LESS POLLS AND NO COMEY.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
kentuck
(111,098 posts)However, turnout would have to be strong to equal the effort of Obama.
20895DEM
(100 posts)Having seen a few Presidential election cycles in the US, I have come to learn what motivates the bases.
Republicans are motivated by anger
Democrats are motivated by fear and anxiety.
The whole "race is tightening" could motivate the Democrats out of fear. All the pollsters measure the Enthusiasm gap, but none of them measure the Fear and Anxiety gap. If they did, DEMS would win hands down. Also hopefully motivates the Hispanic voters to vote. It does little for the Republicans.
So I think it could help us even if we think it is BS.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)20895DEM
(100 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)0ccy01
(18 posts)I know in Florida she's down with black voters by 4 points in early voting but up with Hispanic by 4.5 compared to 2012. I think enthusiasm isn't any worse now then what is was in 2012. I fact I think it's higher this year than for O in 2012.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)That is 2 more than Obama in 2012 and 1 less than 2008.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)and has been over for months. That isn't sexy though so...