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Is the blue firewall cracking (Original Post) Proud liberal 80 Nov 2016 OP
Worrying never changed anything Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #1
Already voted Proud liberal 80 Nov 2016 #2
Plan B then. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #4
I am a conservative part of Texas Proud liberal 80 Nov 2016 #7
All the more reason. Xipe Totec Nov 2016 #10
An OP with no substance. demmiblue Nov 2016 #3
Links below Proud liberal 80 Nov 2016 #6
Which Mich poll didn't you like? LisaL Nov 2016 #5
Go to 538.. busterbrown Nov 2016 #12
Why are you worried? Pick up the phone and make some calls for Hillary. Avalux Nov 2016 #8
No gratuitous Nov 2016 #9
No Jason1961 Nov 2016 #11
I agree. Willie Pep Nov 2016 #14
lol JI7 Nov 2016 #13
I think it is (R) votes coming home. Motown_Johnny Nov 2016 #15
No... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #16
Trends are more important than anything davidn3600 Nov 2016 #17
Meh, lot of reasons why they go where they go... Wounded Bear Nov 2016 #18

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
12. Go to 538..
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:16 PM
Nov 2016

scroll till you see the Map.. Have a glass of Wine ..Then click on Michigan...

This site by the way is one of the best in the business..

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
8. Why are you worried? Pick up the phone and make some calls for Hillary.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 05:56 PM
Nov 2016

That would be really good for your mental health.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
14. I agree.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:19 PM
Nov 2016

I don't see Trump turning any true blue states red. Still, we have to get people out to vote to be extra sure.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
15. I think it is (R) votes coming home.
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:21 PM
Nov 2016

They were bound to do exactly this anyways.

The whole kerfuffle over the new FBI announcement made it happen all at once.

The polls are swinging but Trump's ceiling hasn't changed.



Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
16. No...
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:32 PM
Nov 2016

Notice one thing about the polls. Don't focus on the +/- numbers, those fluctuate every day. Actually look at the numbers.

Generally, almost always this cycle really, the change in the +/- number comes from a change in Trump's number, not Clinton. Hillary remains cruising along in the mid-to-high 40's, while Trump fluctuates around 40 or so, +/- about 3.

Clinton's base numbers have not significantly dropped over the course of the campaign.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
17. Trends are more important than anything
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 06:47 PM
Nov 2016

Hard to deny that Trump has gained some ground. Whether it will be enough ground we will have to see.

What the candidates do in the final week and where they go is telling of what they really feel is the state of the race. Hillary seems to be pulling back to defend the firewall while Trump is expanding into blue states. That's not a good sign. But it doesn't necessarily mean she's going to lose those states.

The people here who think she's going to win 400+ EVs are a bit delusional. As I have said for months and months, this race will be closer than many think.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
18. Meh, lot of reasons why they go where they go...
Wed Nov 2, 2016, 07:01 PM
Nov 2016

For Clinton, she's also campaigning for down ballot races, Senators especially.

For Trump, I call it desperation. I guess he might be doing the Party a solid by campaigning for down ballot races, but I don't think he'd have any sincerity about it.

I'd love 400. Realistically, I see well over 300 EV, possibly as high as 350 or so.

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