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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:10 PM Nov 2016

White people won’t admit to what they hear and learn behind closed doors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/i-wont-keep-your-secrets-any-longer_us_581a26c7e4b0cee6c6d130ee

One of the scariest stories I ever heard was told to me and several others at a child’s birthday party. Over the ringing bells and music of the indoor rides and video games. Across a background symphony of children laughing, I listened to a police officer brag about taunting a young man as he lay dying in the street....

They don’t care that we’re told things like, “Oh, you don’t want to live there,” when searching for an apartment. Nobody comes out and says why you don’t want to live there. If you ask the real estate agents, they talk about things like high crime rates and shitty schools....

My stomach turns when I see people I went to high school with posting garbage that argues against black culture being celebrated. I grew up with them. I know first hand the white privilege with which they were raised. Having moved out of that area, I know that my own children are not getting the caliber of education I and my schoolmates were lucky enough to have received....

White people won’t admit to what they hear and learn behind closed doors. It might mean admitting your grandmother, that sweet woman may her soul rest in peace, who taught you how to crochet and bought you a treat at the bakery every Saturday, was a raving racist who yelled at the white people on Wheel of Fortune who were stupid enough to let the n***** win. Or maybe you don’t want to confess to your father, himself in law enforcement, owning a KKK belt buckle he kept tucked away in his armoire and only brought out to show his friends when they stopped by.
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White people won’t admit to what they hear and learn behind closed doors. (Original Post) KamaAina Nov 2016 OP
enough with the stereotyping Skittles Nov 2016 #1
Yep. Tuning it right the fuck out. (n/t) SMC22307 Nov 2016 #2
I am so grateful to my mother and grandmother apcalc Nov 2016 #3
that cannot be Skittles Nov 2016 #6
What, I am not to speak of SOME White people, those who reared me? apcalc Nov 2016 #12
You're just not admitting that they did The2ndWheel Nov 2016 #15
How dare you. apcalc Nov 2016 #16
I'm just going by the article The2ndWheel Nov 2016 #17
More accurately, you're simply going by your interpretation of the article, LanternWaste Nov 2016 #20
Demonizing white people article #3346 romanic Nov 2016 #4
There's a lot of truth in that. Yes, it does generalize, but I hear that kind of stuff Doodley Nov 2016 #5
This article ASSumes all closed doors have this shit behind them Warpy Nov 2016 #7
My son has NEVER heard GWC58 Nov 2016 #11
I really detest the "product of the times" excuse Skittles Nov 2016 #33
Just, Yuck! ProfessorGAC Nov 2016 #13
Suh-weet Jesus white people suck The2ndWheel Nov 2016 #14
Sometimes, yep. Iggo Nov 2016 #24
If you only knew! Eddie Murphy almost exposed what REALLY happens! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #18
I don't know any people who talk like that. nt leftyladyfrommo Nov 2016 #19
I'm half-white, and I look white. Iggo Nov 2016 #21
It definitely happens. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #23
I'm white my grandson is black gwheezie Nov 2016 #27
I know it HAPPENS Skittles Nov 2016 #31
It happens. Iggo Nov 2016 #34
I only know one person who uses the N word treestar Nov 2016 #22
Meh... Upin Nov 2016 #28
Most of the posters already metroins Nov 2016 #29
White liberal guilt. Marr Nov 2016 #30
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apcalc

(4,465 posts)
3. I am so grateful to my mother and grandmother
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:14 PM
Nov 2016

( white) who NEVER spoke against any race nor any gender. Equality all the way....

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
12. What, I am not to speak of SOME White people, those who reared me?
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 07:57 AM
Nov 2016

Geeeez so sorry for commenting.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
15. You're just not admitting that they did
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 09:39 AM
Nov 2016

White people are inherently racist. You were born white, and had the nerve to actually be raised by white people, which reinforced whiteness, if only in a subconscious way. Your white mother had a white child for God's sake. And your mom's mom was white too! That's insane. How far back do white people go in your family?

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
16. How dare you.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 09:49 AM
Nov 2016

Not admitting it? Inherently racist?

You know nothing of those two people and how they stood up for all people in many situations.

Your comments are both appalling and ignorant.




The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
17. I'm just going by the article
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 09:55 AM
Nov 2016

And most of what's said about white people these days. You obviously haven't had your daily self flagellation today. Still early, so there's time to right that wrong.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. More accurately, you're simply going by your interpretation of the article,
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:42 AM
Nov 2016

More accurately, you're simply going by your interpretation of the article, regardless of whether you attempt to right any wrongs.

romanic

(2,841 posts)
4. Demonizing white people article #3346
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:17 PM
Nov 2016


Look, I've had my fair share of racist whites cross my path, it hasn't stopped me from separating the individual from the system that benefits them most. If I walked around thinking every white person I saw was racist, I'd be one miserable man.

Doodley

(9,093 posts)
5. There's a lot of truth in that. Yes, it does generalize, but I hear that kind of stuff
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:18 PM
Nov 2016

all the time. I often hear the coded racist references from my realtor/family member. I will buy a house where the hell regardless of the demographics.

Warpy

(111,272 posts)
7. This article ASSumes all closed doors have this shit behind them
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 10:25 PM
Nov 2016

It's one hell of a broad brush.

I don't mind seeing something unflattering in an honest mirror. This is a fun house mirror.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
11. My son has NEVER heard
Thu Nov 3, 2016, 11:20 PM
Nov 2016

either his mother, or myself, use racially divisive language. I didn't want him hearing it like I did at his age. My great-grandmother, who I lost in 1971, didn't like black people. She was also a product of her times. There's good and bad in us all.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
33. I really detest the "product of the times" excuse
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 05:04 PM
Nov 2016

ultimately, even if you were raised racist, you can learn not to believe you're better than other people because you are a different color

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
18. If you only knew! Eddie Murphy almost exposed what REALLY happens!
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:06 AM
Nov 2016

See his "White Like Me" undercover video here:
http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/165662/WHITE-LIKE-ME/



It's not a big deal to me at all, but I've had black guys talk to me a certain way and then observed them talking another way around other black co-workers when they didn't know I was around. I later asked one of them, who I considered a good friend, why he acted and talked (using "ebonics&quot so differently when he was around those guys, and he replied that "everybody" puts on a different persona in different environments. Hmm... I don't know about that.

Iggo

(47,558 posts)
21. I'm half-white, and I look white.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:48 AM
Nov 2016

Over the last fifty-five years I've been in a lot of rooms where everybody but me thought that everybody in the room including me was white.

Sometimes ugly things get said. That's just a fact, and nobody but nobody should be surprised or offended when it's pointed out that it happens. It does.

If you (non-bigoted white people) think that means I think you're automatically a raving bigot, then I can't help you.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
23. It definitely happens.
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 11:02 AM
Nov 2016

White guys have said horribly racist things to me, assuming that I was "like them" because I'm VERY white. Some of it was stuff that I wouldn't want to repeat here.

Those same white guys despised me when I didn't go along with it.

I was knocked unconscious (and could've been killed from a hard blow to the back of my head) and hospitalized after venturing into a bar (on a whim) that turned out to be a redneck/biker hangout. One of the patrons approached me in a friendly manner, encouraging me to become a "regular" there (joining their "gang&quot , but then he started an anti-Obama and racist tirade. When I didn't "play along," he glared at me and went back to his group of buddies. I was later knocked unconscious and robbed after exiting the place, waking up in an ER while getting stitches.

I was later saddened when I was released by the hospital (in the middle of a mostly black community) in the morning and started walking home (about 7 miles). I'm thankful that I wasn't assaulted again, but it was pretty clear that several of the black guys who saw me "enjoyed" seeing my clothes covered in dried blood and my face bruised and stitched up. I was still very dizzy, and I couldn't shake the feeling that many people there would've simply video recorded me with their smart phones if I'd collapsed.

The whole situation sucks!

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
27. I'm white my grandson is black
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:57 PM
Nov 2016

I've been in those situations where the assumption is since I'm white I agree with the racism of the crowd. What I usually say is let me stop you before you say anything else & show you a picture of my grandson who I love very much.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
22. I only know one person who uses the N word
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 10:49 AM
Nov 2016

she talked about it in reference to a jury she was on and she assumes all black defendants guilty and that black jurors hang up the jury only on race. Strangely, she is a friend of my younger sibling and grew up in our neighborhood. Her mother was a very sweet woman who I never heard talk like that, but then where did the friend get that way.

My grandfather did not use the word but he did have bigoted views more or less. I have uncles with bigoted views.





Upin

(115 posts)
28. Meh...
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 12:58 PM
Nov 2016

Sounds like a lot of projection here.

Assuming that everyone is talking about you behind your back because the author obviously knows what's going on behind those closed doors.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
29. Most of the posters already
Fri Nov 4, 2016, 01:22 PM
Nov 2016

Said what I was going to.

There's racism from all sides, but not even close to the majority of people from any race.

I could cherry pick anecdotes, but it's not helpful.

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