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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMolly Ivens quote on the flag
I prefer someone who burns the flag and then wraps themselves up in the Constitution over someone who burns the Constitution and then wraps themselves up in the flag.
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Molly Ivens quote on the flag (Original Post)
jodymarie aimee
Nov 2016
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Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)1. K & R
Thank you, Molly (and jodymarie).
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)2. Yes!
Too bad it doesn't matter what we think.
niyad
(113,276 posts)3. k and r for our beloved molly.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)4. Trump merely claims ignorance: he's never read the Constitution. He has no idea what it says.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)5. Spot on, Molly.
ctw1
(26 posts)6. Pretty sure I'll find some place to use this :)
florida08
(4,106 posts)7. she was a treasure
We need those voices today-not sure they exist
elmac
(4,642 posts)8. Very well said
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,000 posts)9. Except that graphic is incorrect on two points
1) Sinclair Lewis had not been born in 1835.
2) He didn't say it.
Youve probably heard some variation on this quote: When fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in the flag and waving a cross, possibly attributed to Sinclair Lewis or Huey Long. The only problem: theres no evidence that either men said it.
But Sally Parry of the Sinclair Lewis Society provides us with two similar passages written by Lewis:
From It Cant Happen Here (1935): But he saw too that in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word Fascism and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty.
From Gideon Planish (1943): I just wish people wouldnt quote Lincoln or the Bible, or hang out the flag or the cross, to cover up something that belongs more to the bank-book and the three golden balls.
Also, the author behind the site What Shii Knows has done some research and found two other possible sources:
It is a peculiarity of the development of American fascism that at the present stage it comes forward principally in the guise of an opposition to fascism, which it accuses of being an un-American trend imported from abroad. Georgi Dimitrov, in his report delivered at the Seventh World Congress of the Communist International in 1935.
When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled made in Germany; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, Americanism' An uncredited New York Times reporter covering Halford E. Luccock in an article published September 12, 1938.
But Sally Parry of the Sinclair Lewis Society provides us with two similar passages written by Lewis:
From It Cant Happen Here (1935): But he saw too that in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word Fascism and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty.
From Gideon Planish (1943): I just wish people wouldnt quote Lincoln or the Bible, or hang out the flag or the cross, to cover up something that belongs more to the bank-book and the three golden balls.
Also, the author behind the site What Shii Knows has done some research and found two other possible sources:
It is a peculiarity of the development of American fascism that at the present stage it comes forward principally in the guise of an opposition to fascism, which it accuses of being an un-American trend imported from abroad. Georgi Dimitrov, in his report delivered at the Seventh World Congress of the Communist International in 1935.
When and if fascism comes to America it will not be labeled made in Germany; it will not be marked with a swastika; it will not even be called fascism; it will be called, of course, Americanism' An uncredited New York Times reporter covering Halford E. Luccock in an article published September 12, 1938.
66 dmhlt
(1,941 posts)10. Just a small nit to pick: It's I-v-I-n-s
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)11. We could sure use Molly now. Using this elsewhere. thanks. nt
William Seger
(10,778 posts)12. Damn, I miss her... (nt)