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watch waukesha recount LIVE here right now, counting now. listen in to how many mistakes. (Original Post) Sunlei Dec 2016 OP
Hasn't Waukesha Always Been A Problem? Me. Dec 2016 #1
Who were those two women yammering? Get counting. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #2
Thank you for editing your post MineralMan Dec 2016 #3
Really. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #5
Lol nt metroins Dec 2016 #7
lonestarnot..could not agree MORE jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #20
I'm not a hen, dame, chick or broad. And definitely not a girl. marybourg Dec 2016 #31
except this same DU'er calls the 3 old white men... 3 old white men. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #32
Yes, sexism is definitely alive and well amongst the "left". JTFrog Dec 2016 #8
Sexism. Please. I am a female last time I checked. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #9
So? You really think that makes you immune or something? JTFrog Dec 2016 #10
So what do you want me to change hen to? lonestarnot Dec 2016 #14
Women works just fine for most people. JTFrog Dec 2016 #15
How about "women"? Like you called the 3 old white men, "men". KittyWampus Dec 2016 #33
I was a male last time Marta checked Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #58
You didn't think women should be afforded WhiteTara Dec 2016 #11
plus 1. nt JTFrog Dec 2016 #19
Plus 1000. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #70
Why are those 3 old white men just yammering at the table dong nothing. Throw them out! lonestarnot Dec 2016 #4
Guy questioning now. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #6
So the women are "hens" but the 3 old white men WhiteTara Dec 2016 #13
OK. Two old white fart fucksticks. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Dec 2016 #17
And in the spirit of fairness WhiteTara Dec 2016 #18
Men -- at least the straight, white ones -- don't get 'nicknames' whathehell Dec 2016 #26
I know. They are the "gold standard" WhiteTara Dec 2016 #28
Interesting way of putting it...Yes, they are the "real people" whathehell Dec 2016 #34
Well, did you ever notice how frequently "old ladies" are the butt of 'jokes' whathehell Dec 2016 #42
I can't remember the last time WhiteTara Dec 2016 #45
No, and the joke doesn't even have to designate race.. whathehell Dec 2016 #48
We need a national strike that goes on WhiteTara Dec 2016 #49
Actually, Tara..most Wwhite college educated women voted fro HILLARY, not Trump whathehell Dec 2016 #53
I'm surrounded by women who didn't go to school WhiteTara Dec 2016 #57
Well, that may go to my point.. whathehell Dec 2016 #65
I have found that women are more critical of other women WhiteTara Dec 2016 #66
It seems to depend on the woman.. whathehell Dec 2016 #67
listen to the actual judge comments. Sunlei Dec 2016 #22
They did their counting yesterday and last night, now the judge is accepting final counts. Sunlei Dec 2016 #23
Two old white fucksticks still aren't doing shit. Get someone willing to work. lonestarnot Dec 2016 #12
the county districts are so tiny, they had to recount like 100 ballots. Sunlei Dec 2016 #24
I see, then get them onto another county! lonestarnot Dec 2016 #38
They have been given more work.I notice at most polls, even in our GE, it's senior citizens who volu Sunlei Dec 2016 #40
Well, this isn't sexy work, like going to WhiteTara Dec 2016 #47
I agree & they worked late nights past couple days. Our general election tiny, tiny 'wards' made a Sunlei Dec 2016 #50
I keep listening, they find votes not counted like marked for Clinton,yet someone wrotein Johnson Sunlei Dec 2016 #21
were those ballots altered after the fact? You know what is going to happen still_one Dec 2016 #25
I don't think they were counted in the first count but now they are counted. Sunlei Dec 2016 #29
It is strange to say the least, but I think in most places if they see two different still_one Dec 2016 #36
Same handwriting? exboyfil Dec 2016 #27
Can Jill Stein contest them? Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #30
Not a clue exboyfil Dec 2016 #39
problem-the votes are sub-divided among tiny 'wards', way to many individuals involved in GE counts. Sunlei Dec 2016 #43
If someone votes for two candidates, how would you decide? MichMan Dec 2016 #35
That is most likely exactly what will happen still_one Dec 2016 #37
In my state 2naSalit Dec 2016 #41
a very easy way for anyone to invalidate a legit vote is to scribble in the write in area. Sunlei Dec 2016 #44
yup. 2naSalit Dec 2016 #46
Do you have so little imagination for how fraud is implemented? lostnfound Dec 2016 #71
Boy, did this thread get highjacked or what? shraby Dec 2016 #51
Ya think? 11 Bravo Dec 2016 #52
No shit lillypaddle Dec 2016 #54
all are welcome to hijack our Democracy but YOU can't hijack air Jamaica! Sunlei Dec 2016 #55
Biased attitudes, like sexism, are internalized through language and popular culture. ronnie624 Dec 2016 #61
in the background over the public airwaves are numerous certainot Dec 2016 #56
pay to listen, pay to view RW crap is irreverent to me. I only listen and watch the free stuff :P Sunlei Dec 2016 #60
you sister's a whore, your brother's a thief and ur ideas are treasonous. certainot Dec 2016 #63
They preach to the choir. You can turn it off or not buy a sub. Sunlei Dec 2016 #64
limbaugh was talking about it so they're getting worried certainot Dec 2016 #68
They're embarrassed that Clinton has close to a 3 million vote win. Sunlei Dec 2016 #69
Thanks for the heads up Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #59
you're welcome. I love the live cams overview. Every aspect of our elections should always be Sunlei Dec 2016 #62
 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
20. lonestarnot..could not agree MORE
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:53 AM
Dec 2016

WE are women. WE may refer to each other and ourselves as hens. I have used chicks and dames on here and you would have thought I poked somebody in the eye with an ice pick. Grow up. WE are hens, dames, broads, chicks, ladies, females......

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
32. except this same DU'er calls the 3 old white men... 3 old white men.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:28 PM
Dec 2016

Your attempt at excusing the misogyny is like someone saying "but black people use the term too".

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
8. Yes, sexism is definitely alive and well amongst the "left".
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:40 AM
Dec 2016

It really highlights another OP out there in GD right now.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
10. So? You really think that makes you immune or something?
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:44 AM
Dec 2016

You just posted something extremely sexist. You may not think you are sexist, but what you did is sexist.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
13. So the women are "hens" but the 3 old white men
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:45 AM
Dec 2016

get called for what they are. My sexist meter just started screaming.

Response to lonestarnot (Reply #16)

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
18. And in the spirit of fairness
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:49 AM
Dec 2016

would you replace those words in both your posts about "white men?" That would be so great and would make my day.

whathehell

(28,968 posts)
42. Well, did you ever notice how frequently "old ladies" are the butt of 'jokes'
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:05 PM
Dec 2016

as opposed to old men? You hear it all the time, as in the Christmas song "Grandma got run over by a Reindeer" for just one of many joking references to '"old ladies". All you have to do is replace 'grandma' with 'grandpa' and ask yourself if its still "funny"... I think you'll find that it's not, because in the popular mind, accidents involving old men don't carry nearly the 'humor quotient' of those happening to ''old ladies'. I remember reading an article years ago in which a couple of male art critics were discussing the value
of a certain rare painting. One said "Well, it's worth at least as much as a couple of old ladies". Again, we couldn't magine his using "men" instead of "ladies" there, could we?
I

whathehell

(28,968 posts)
48. No, and the joke doesn't even have to designate race..
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:17 PM
Dec 2016

It simply goes to the different value accorded to men and women.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
49. We need a national strike that goes on
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:21 PM
Dec 2016

for a month. No dinner, no dishes, no housekeeping, no sex, no work, no phone calls taken for him or made for him, nothing that men derive pleasure or profit from.

Of course, this is unworkable in this country, women voted in droves to be made second class citizens.

whathehell

(28,968 posts)
53. Actually, Tara..most Wwhite college educated women voted fro HILLARY, not Trump
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:57 PM
Dec 2016

It as mainly Blue Collar women who voted for Trump, for reasons that I imagine, were the same as their husbands.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
57. I'm surrounded by women who didn't go to school
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:27 PM
Dec 2016

and HATE Hillary because ??? and they are waitresses and hotel maids.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
66. I have found that women are more critical of other women
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:54 PM
Dec 2016

even than men. It has to do with the false narrative that women need men to protect them and so women battle other women for the "best" men. The competition creates animosity. I thought that was going to be healed with the women's movement, but apparently it is still very strong and no mortal woman is good enough.

whathehell

(28,968 posts)
67. It seems to depend on the woman..
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 04:45 PM
Dec 2016

As I mentioned in another post in another thread, internalized misogyny, like internalized racism, IS a real thing. Studies show that oppressed people tend to internalize the low opinion in which they are held -- All the negative imagery, vocabulary, etc. which confronts them on a daily basis takes its toll on one's self image, even if unconsciously -- Oppressed people tend to dislike themselves and others LIKE themselves -- They've been told to all their lives. I think it's especially true of non-feminist women...Much of the early 'consciousness raising' sessions of the early Women's movement dealt with that.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
12. Two old white fucksticks still aren't doing shit. Get someone willing to work.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:45 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:44 PM - Edit history (1)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
40. They have been given more work.I notice at most polls, even in our GE, it's senior citizens who volu
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:59 PM
Dec 2016

volunteer most.

WhiteTara

(29,676 posts)
47. Well, this isn't sexy work, like going to
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:13 PM
Dec 2016

a rally. This is a long day's work with few rewards, except for the internal ones of having served one's country.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
50. I agree & they worked late nights past couple days. Our general election tiny, tiny 'wards' made a
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:22 PM
Dec 2016

big mess of this election. Americans can't even be sure our ONE VOTE, will be counted properly.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. I keep listening, they find votes not counted like marked for Clinton,yet someone wrotein Johnson
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 11:55 AM
Dec 2016

weird lots of ballots marked like that.

still_one

(91,939 posts)
25. were those ballots altered after the fact? You know what is going to happen
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:06 PM
Dec 2016

they are going to invalidate those ballots

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. I don't think they were counted in the first count but now they are counted.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:21 PM
Dec 2016

I just found it odd anyone would vote for a president and then write in Johnson. Several I 'heard discussed' with the Johnson write in, were said to be absentee ballots with Clinton vote marked.

still_one

(91,939 posts)
36. It is strange to say the least, but I think in most places if they see two different
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:41 PM
Dec 2016

votes for the same office, they will invalidate the ballot

exboyfil

(17,857 posts)
39. Not a clue
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:56 PM
Dec 2016

but if a significant number has done this, I would question ballot security (unless you can find a group that got together to screw with the process before the election). I absolutely think that, unless someone worked to disguise their handwriting, that you can demonstrate that the same hand wrote the candidate in. Even two of these shows tampering that should be investigated. 100s then the entire process is in question, and a close look needs to happen in every voting district.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
43. problem-the votes are sub-divided among tiny 'wards', way to many individuals involved in GE counts.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:05 PM
Dec 2016

individuals make mistakes, intended or not.

MichMan

(11,781 posts)
35. If someone votes for two candidates, how would you decide?
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 12:39 PM
Dec 2016

Votes for two candidates should not count. How are you supposed to decide which one they intended?

2naSalit

(86,040 posts)
41. In my state
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 01:04 PM
Dec 2016

that's what they tell you in the instructions... if you vote for more than the race has open seats, your ballot for that race only will be discarded but not your entire ballot. So if you voted for two candidates on the same ballot, that portion will not count but the rest of your ballot will count for other races, like Senate and others. At least, that's what they tell us, a good half of our very rural state votes by mail.

lostnfound

(16,138 posts)
71. Do you have so little imagination for how fraud is implemented?
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 07:37 AM
Dec 2016

Access the ballots, write in Johnson on stacks of Clinton votes.

Waukesha county.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
61. Biased attitudes, like sexism, are internalized through language and popular culture.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:37 PM
Dec 2016

In my opinion, it's important to call them out, when we see them in ourselves, no matter what.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
56. in the background over the public airwaves are numerous
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:24 PM
Dec 2016

rw radio blowhards yelling about dems trying to steal the election, the clinton crime family foundation (limbaugh), etc. when needed they will call out the mobs.

that includes 5 limbaugh stations and 2 hannity stations that fly the UWis Badgers banner over their radio stations and shouldn't be allowed to.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
60. pay to listen, pay to view RW crap is irreverent to me. I only listen and watch the free stuff :P
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:36 PM
Dec 2016

and never republicans foxTV free fake-news ("fake-news"the new word for old school typical propaganda), except the free movies.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
63. you sister's a whore, your brother's a thief and ur ideas are treasonous.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 03:05 PM
Dec 2016

and democrats are committing voter fraud.

that's what those 1200 stations have been yelling for 30 years while the targets of their lies just walked by with their ipods in theirears.

in most of the us there are no free easy alts for people interested in politics - especially while driving and working

rw radio is it and that's why they subsidized and protect that monopoly - it works great!

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
68. limbaugh was talking about it so they're getting worried
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:23 PM
Dec 2016

at all stages of these recounts they can make things harder and cause delays if they need to and whether its a judge or a just the counters and those people in that room, some of those people involved can be intimidated or enabled by a few frightened screaming frothing shitwads on a few radio stations reaching hundreds of thousands of faithful teabaggers ready to save the trump presidency from the corrupt clinton crime foundation

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
62. you're welcome. I love the live cams overview. Every aspect of our elections should always be
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 02:46 PM
Dec 2016

transparent to Americans using live cams system, including tabulations of ballots and opening/recording mail in ballots. And those recordings on every States public websites.

We don't have to be able to read the ballots just be able to see if someone writes anything on them.

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