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cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:43 PM Dec 2016

Our democracy is at stake....and now more than ever we need President Obama to LEAD.

Russia hacking our election, Trump "winning" and appointing people who's views define any sort of reason or logic, a standing Supreme Court appointment on the line, etc.

While I love President Obama, we need him out there every single day questioning why Russia has been allowed to infiltrate our election system and our country. He should be setting up special committees in Congress and directing the NSA, the CIA, and the FBI to find out everything they can. There must be hundreds of instances out there specifically linking Trump to Putin, and we need to force votes in congress so they will actually stand up for our country or be caught lying and risk being held accountable.

Now more than any time over the past 50 years, we need a leader who will fight for what is right, address the nation, name names. If there was a violent terrorist attack you would see wall to wall news coverage, yet while the terrorists are attacking now the President and the news media are silent.

I'm just baffled, dumbfounded, scared. The terrorists must be thinking "this was too easy, we've been doing it all wrong this whole time", and our current leaders are just sitting there watching it happen.

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Our democracy is at stake....and now more than ever we need President Obama to LEAD. (Original Post) cbdo2007 Dec 2016 OP
have you heard KO's segment on this? niyad Dec 2016 #1
There will be no leadership of the sort you are hoping to see. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #2
Good leadership is not about confrontation, and we know that is what Trump likes. cbdo2007 Dec 2016 #8
But I do not feel that he will do that, and even if he did, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #11
President Obama bdamomma Dec 2016 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #4
welcome to du niyad Dec 2016 #5
Good luck with that. nt Nay Dec 2016 #6
lead what? treestar Dec 2016 #7
It actually is exactly his problem, this is happening under his watch. cbdo2007 Dec 2016 #9
What would you like Obama to do? kudzu22 Dec 2016 #10
I think Michelle's the kick ass one in the family. jalan48 Dec 2016 #12

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. There will be no leadership of the sort you are hoping to see.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:47 PM
Dec 2016

One of the foundational myths in the US is the myth of fair elections.

Starting with the first election, and with the 3/5ths of a person compromise, and the refusal to extend suffrage to females, US elections have never been truly fair.

As the nearly 8 years of his Presidency has well demonstrated, President Obama is all about compromise, not confrontation.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
8. Good leadership is not about confrontation, and we know that is what Trump likes.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 06:14 PM
Dec 2016

It is about showing and teaching people what is right and wrong, making people accountable for their actions (Congress), and implementing good solutions to the problems we encounter.

I promise you, if President Obama came on tv tonight and called the Russian hacking "Terrorism" and said he was setting up a special bipartisan task force, with the Repubes who support Trump, to get to the bottom of it....they would find that it is obvious that the Russians hacked, and the Repubes who support Trump will be backed into a corner with the evidence right in front of them. It's a chess game and that would be check mate.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. But I do not feel that he will do that, and even if he did,
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:14 PM
Dec 2016

that does not guarantee the inauguration would not proceed.

bdamomma

(63,937 posts)
3. President Obama
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:53 PM
Dec 2016
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/obama-president-without-briefings-flying-blind/ar-AAlvlli?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout

knows what we are dealing with.

I hate Trump he has to be the most hated man in the world and he is not even in office, He is not my president.


some excerpts from the article


Trump over the weekend said on "Fox News Sunday" he's not interested in daily intelligence briefings unless developments have changed enough to merit his attention. Asked whether he's rejecting valuable intelligence, Trump was defiant.

"I get it when I need it," he said of the top-secret briefings sessions, generally designed to present facts for the president to make decisions on when something's changed and what, if any, action should be taken.

"I'm, like, a smart person," Trump continued. "I don't have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next eight years."

The remarks sent Trump allies, such as incoming White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus Tuesday, insisting that the president-elect respects intelligence analysts.


EIGHT YEARS NO






Response to cbdo2007 (Original post)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. lead what?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:40 PM
Dec 2016

He does not have powers to overturn the election of his successor. We voted, as a nation. We screwed up. It's not his problem.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
9. It actually is exactly his problem, this is happening under his watch.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 06:17 PM
Dec 2016

The election is just the tip of the iceberg.

kudzu22

(1,273 posts)
10. What would you like Obama to do?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:10 PM
Dec 2016

He can make speeches but that's about it. Should he declare the election null and void? That's not in the constitution. He'd lose and probably damage the party's reputation for decades to come. Force Congress to vote? Last time I checked the President doesn't submit bills to Congress -- they send him bills to sign or veto. Apart from initiating an investigation into hacking allegations, there's nothing to be done.

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