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11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 05:30 PM Jan 2017

How should we "look into Trump's heart", Kellyanne?

If we aren't to do so by heeding his actual spoken thoughts, what's left?
I suppose that if given a KA-BAR and 15 minutes I could provide you with the definitive answer, but I doubt that's what you have in mind. And as much as I despise the microcephalic shitgibbon, I don't wish any actual physical harm to befall him.
In fact, just the opposite. I expect him to be a spectacular failure, not a martyr.
But, pray tell us, Conway. How in the fuck do you expect the American people to form an opinion vis-a-vis what may be in his alleged "heart", if we are to ignore his own words and deeds?

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How should we "look into Trump's heart", Kellyanne? (Original Post) 11 Bravo Jan 2017 OP
Well, vampire movies give us one avenue... True Dough Jan 2017 #1
Heh. Watch the dust fly! Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #5
I tweeted to that scum enabler Generator Jan 2017 #2
I didn't know he had one. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2017 #3
I know the internals of a Honda pulse-feed fuel pump. Just pull the fuse first. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #4
15 minutes? C'mon Bravo--2 or 3 at the most... panader0 Jan 2017 #6
I think it's the same procedure as a colonoscopy CanonRay Jan 2017 #7
It's really unnecessary, anyway. OilemFirchen Jan 2017 #8
With an electron microscope? demmiblue Jan 2017 #9
two sizes too small Qutzupalotl Jan 2017 #15
How are we supposed to look into something that... Different Drummer Jan 2017 #10
Gods, who would want to? okasha Jan 2017 #11
Especially when his tweets are all the information we have to analyze gratuitous Jan 2017 #12
It is a message for the stupid... Caliman73 Jan 2017 #13
Stone fucking cold Kelly.... Historic NY Jan 2017 #14
How about the way they do it MurrayDelph Jan 2017 #16
Fugelsang said that he is so thin skinned that all the major organs are visible... Thor_MN Jan 2017 #17
Now there's a guy with a heart! gulliver Jan 2017 #18
 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
2. I tweeted to that scum enabler
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 05:34 PM
Jan 2017

that what's in his heart is indifference to others suffering. He doesn't give a shit about so much but right now-he's "not concerned" that there is no replacement for Obamacare. HE IS A SOCIOPATH.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Especially when his tweets are all the information we have to analyze
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 05:55 PM
Jan 2017

The man hasn't held a press conference since July (Wasn't lack of press conferences by Clinton a thing during the campaign? What about now?); how else can we evaluate Trump except by what his stubby little fingers tweet out in the middle of the night? Shove your waddling shitweasel of a boss out in front of the cameras and microphones, Ms. Conway; we'll get a look at his heart then and have a chance for a fuller evaluation.

Until then, quit whining.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
13. It is a message for the stupid...
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 06:11 PM
Jan 2017

Those who continue to support Trump will hear Conway's garbage and agree with it even though it makes no sense at all. Of course you are 100% correct that the only way we have to form an opinion regarding a person's character, personality, attitudes, etc... it by observing their words and actions over a period of time. People have the capacity to change their beliefs and attitudes, and to modify their behaviors as well, but there is typically some motivation for them to do so.

Here is what we know about Trump from his words and actions (mind you, this is over decades, not just recent).

He was sent to military school by his parents who felt he needed more discipline (granted, that could be more about the parents than the child).

He went into business with his father and continued discriminatory practices toward Black, Latino, and other minority tenants prompting an investigation into his practices which resulted in a settlement.

He bragged throughout his young adult life about how sexual promiscuity, going so far as to create fictitious people to call in to local radio and news papers to sing his own praises.

He has repeatedly made deals with small business owners, only to renege on those deals and not pay the agreed upon wages. Many of those small businesses had to fold or were greatly diminshed.

He cheated on his first wife (who also alleged, then recanted), sexual abuse in their marriage. As part of their divorce settlement, there is a gag order against his first wife.

He cheated on his 2nd wife as well causing a second divorce. Similarly, his second wife has a gag order as part of their divorce settlement.

When his daughter Tiffany was 1 year old, Trump made statements which appear to be sexually objectifying her (I.E. discussing her legs and potential breast size).

He has made demeaning statements to women (Rosie O' Donald, Miss Venezuela, his wives and wives in general, Carly Fiorina, Hillary Clinton, Megan Kelly) calling them dogs, fat pigs, stating that their role was only "to make sure dinner is ready", and equating menstruation with illness causing crazed behavior.

He has lied habitually, even going so far as to tell people that he had lied about statements he had made repeatedly.

He mocked a disabled reporter.

The list goes on...

Sometimes generally good people do minor or even major things that cause people pain. We all do, because we are human and we can be selfish at times or lose sight of what is important. We are all subject to those problems because we have to balance our needs and desires with those of other people and life is messy.

Sometimes seemingly good people for various reasons, do something very bad (I.E. John Edwards and Anthony Weiner come to mind). They lose esteem in our eyes and our relationships with those people changes or are terminated. We have to re-evaluate what those people were motivated by and what would lead them to such a disregard of the commitments we make to each other. We wonder what is in those people's hearts (I do not like using those colloquialisms).

Then there is Trump. Unless he has some completely separate life that he is really, really trying to keep secret, in which he is a generous, loving, gentle, respectful person (you know, the exact opposite of what he is showing), then we have to go by what he gives us in his day to day actions and words.

For Conway to request that we disregard what Trump does and says and go to some mythical place where we see "his heart" is beyond ridiculous. Trump is showing us, every day, what is in his heart. Picking cabinet members who go against the very nature of the departments they are supposed to lead shows us what is in his heart. Standing up for a foreign dictator instead of acknowledging that major espionage has taken place, shows us what is in his heart. Going after people like a petty bully, after legitimate criticisms, shows us what is in his heart. Since we cannot read minds or hearts as it were, the only thing that shows us what is inside of a person is how they behave.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
14. Stone fucking cold Kelly....
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jan 2017

Even when it comes to a sick baby in his family, Donald Trump is all business. The megabuilder and his siblings Robert and Maryanne terminated their nephew’s family medical coverage a week after he challenged the will of their father, Fred Trump. “This was so shocking, so disappointing and so vindictive,” said niece Lisa Trump, whose son, William, was born 18 months ago at Mount Sinai Medical Center with a rare neurological disorder that produces violent seizures, brain damage and medical bills topping $300,000.


http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/what-sort-of-man-is-donald-trump

Donald said in an interview with the Daily News last week. Asked whether he thought cutting their coverage could appear cold-hearted, given the baby's medical condition, Donald made no apologies. "I can't help that," he said. "It's cold when someone sues my father. Had he come to see me, things could very possibly have been much different for them.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/trumps-bitter-battle-nephew-ailing-baby-caught-middle-article-1.888562

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. Fugelsang said that he is so thin skinned that all the major organs are visible...
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:51 PM
Jan 2017

(only problem, now you are picturing Trump without a shirt on)




Sorry, hope dinner isn't ready....

gulliver

(13,181 posts)
18. Now there's a guy with a heart!
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:53 PM
Jan 2017

First thing that springs to my mind when thinking of Donald Trump.

Does Conway even hear what she is saying?

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