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napi21

(45,806 posts)
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 06:05 PM Jan 2017

I don't remember hearing that ANYONE voted for the whole Trump family! Now he's appointing his son-

in-law as his top adviser. It also sounds like Ivanka is going to get some kind of spot too. The Con said his business wass going to be run by all three of his kids, BUT NOW he said it will be the two sons but not Ivanka. The presidency isn't supposed to be a Royal Family!

It was bad enough that all of them were involved in the transition, but I didn't think it was going to continue!

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I don't remember hearing that ANYONE voted for the whole Trump family! Now he's appointing his son- (Original Post) napi21 Jan 2017 OP
Dollar-a-year aides to the Prez don't bother me . . . MrModerate Jan 2017 #1
He's acting like a CEO after a hostile takeover Warpy Jan 2017 #2
You nailed it malaise Jan 2017 #11
Good point. He DOES!! AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #13
Let's see bdamomma Jan 2017 #20
Republicans used to hate family members getting appointments underpants Jan 2017 #3
I think he knows he has some age related mental decline issues Freethinker65 Jan 2017 #4
Ronald Reagan syndrome Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #5
He is setting up Ivanka to run for POTUS as a Democrat in 2024 HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #6
Shoulda heard the whining when RFK was appointed, but... TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #7
And we know what the CIA did about that HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #22
Despots always surround themselves with family... Cattledog Jan 2017 #8
spot on handmade34 Jan 2017 #9
Maybe they'll stage a coup TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #10
President Trump is Legally Barred from Appointing His Family Members Bill USA Jan 2017 #12
The ethics guys are mulling over this law right now. There's some question as to napi21 Jan 2017 #14
"Unpaid" advisors? jmowreader Jan 2017 #15
Oh right. What poor babies, having to survive on only a couple of mill they have in their napi21 Jan 2017 #16
If they spend money like their drunken sailor father does... jmowreader Jan 2017 #17
they will survive by ripping us off bdamomma Jan 2017 #19
Kushner is many many times wealthier than Ivanka HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #23
maybe he thinks bdamomma Jan 2017 #18
there is something very wrong about a grown ass man that cant leave his family mopinko Jan 2017 #21
 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
1. Dollar-a-year aides to the Prez don't bother me . . .
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 06:11 PM
Jan 2017

If they could credibly untangle themselves from their business interests, which they don't appear prepared to do.

Warpy

(111,267 posts)
2. He's acting like a CEO after a hostile takeover
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 06:13 PM
Jan 2017

He has no fucking clue that there is a difference between government and corporate structure.

That's why he's trying to fire everybody he can.

Freethinker65

(10,023 posts)
4. I think he knows he has some age related mental decline issues
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 06:15 PM
Jan 2017

And thus feels more secure and comfortable in his protected bubble of close family (odd that his third wife Melania is pretty much an outsider...hahaha). They will allow him to destroy the country, but not his personal, highly in debt now, Trump empire. The GOP will go along with it as long as he signs their legislation without too much pushback.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. Shoulda heard the whining when RFK was appointed, but...
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 06:24 PM
Jan 2017

in this guy's case, I can't imagine anything going right.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
9. spot on
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 06:48 PM
Jan 2017

as Robert Reich noted...

As tyrants take control of democracies, they typically:
1. Exaggerate their mandate to govern – claiming, for example, that they won an election by a landslide even after losing the popular vote.
2. Repeatedly claim massive voter fraud in the absence of any evidence, in order to restrict voting in subsequent elections.
3. Call anyone who opposes them “enemies.”
4. Turn the public against journalists or media outlets that criticize them, calling them “deceitful” and “scum.”
5. Hold few if any press conferences, preferring to communicate with the public directly through mass rallies and unfiltered statements.
6. Tell the public big lies, causing them to doubt the truth and to believe fictions that support the tyrants’ goals.
7. Blame economic stresses on immigrants or racial or religious minorities, and foment public bias and even violence against them.
8. Attribute acts of domestic violence to “enemies within,” and use such events as excuses to beef up internal security and limit civil liberties.
9. Threaten mass deportations, registries of religious minorities, and the banning of refugees.
10. Seek to eliminate or reduce the influence of competing centers of power, such as labor unions and opposition parties.

11. Appoint family members to high positions of authority
12. Surround themselves with their own personal security force rather than a security detail accountable to the public.
13. Put generals into top civilian posts
14. Make personal alliances with foreign dictators.
15. Draw no distinction between personal property and public property, profiteering from their public office.
Consider yourself warned.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
12. President Trump is Legally Barred from Appointing His Family Members
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 07:22 PM
Jan 2017
http://lawnewz.com/uncategorized/president-trump-is-legally-barred-from-appointing-his-family-members/


... Trump is actually legally barred from appointing family members to an official position. That’s all because of a federal law passed in 1967.

The law is pretty clear:

(b) A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official. An individual may not be appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced in or to a civilian position in an agency if such appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement has been advocated by a public official, serving in or exercising jurisdiction or control over the agency, who is a relative of the individual.



...OF course, Trump no doubt subscribes tothe Nixon doctrine of legality: If the president does it, then it's not illegal. (!!!!!)
(aka: Divine Right)

napi21

(45,806 posts)
14. The ethics guys are mulling over this law right now. There's some question as to
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 08:00 PM
Jan 2017

whether that law applies STAFF positions. There was a court ruling back when Bill Clinton appointed Hillary to lead the health care program and the Pubs sued him. The court ruled that the belief is that Congress didn't include staffers when barring relatives from serving in WH. Hillary, as well as Kuchner are/will be unpaid advisors to the President. '

There is no result yet.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
15. "Unpaid" advisors?
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 08:28 PM
Jan 2017

Hillary I can believe - she was the wife of a man who earned $400,000 per year, she could afford to serve without pay. Kushner, OTOH, is supposed to be a financially-independent person.

If Kushner is working for free, Donald has to put all his assets in a blind trust, and Ivanka, Uday and Qusay are all working for free...how are these people going to be able to survive?

napi21

(45,806 posts)
16. Oh right. What poor babies, having to survive on only a couple of mill they have in their
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 08:56 PM
Jan 2017

personal savings accounts, ) I'm sure the cooks in the WH kitchen will slip them a doggy bag.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
17. If they spend money like their drunken sailor father does...
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:08 PM
Jan 2017

...their "personal savings accounts" are probably as empty as everyone here's. I have a hard time believing Trump could come up with the money to replace the furnace in Trump Tower without having to sell a building.

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
18. maybe he thinks
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 09:13 PM
Jan 2017

he's a tzar. Maybe he will trade our national symbol from a eagle to a bear. Since he loves Russia so much.

mopinko

(70,112 posts)
21. there is something very wrong about a grown ass man that cant leave his family
Mon Jan 9, 2017, 11:15 PM
Jan 2017

for a fucking minute. it is creepy.
reminds me of st ronnie, but it also makes me think of how crook operate, get the foot in the door, bring the crew along, steal everything that aint nailed down. they need the cover, and they need the handholding.

this dude is desperately afraid.
that is pretty damned not cool.

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