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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:03 PM Jan 2017

When will hard evidence show up??

That links tRump campaign to working with the Russians.

And when it does will tRump be able to contain it to beneath him. Blame others?

I, like many if you, have every finger and toe crossed hoping a big shoe drops soon.

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When will hard evidence show up?? (Original Post) SHRED Jan 2017 OP
There are rumors of videotapes.... femmocrat Jan 2017 #1
How HARD does the evidence have to be? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #2
When the CIA, NSA, FBI, etc... comes forward SHRED Jan 2017 #3
So you think Comrade Comey is going to step forward?...Good grief LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #5
It's a big agency and there are others SHRED Jan 2017 #7
I think they know who their fucking BOSS is. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #9
Hard enough to make Lester Holt open the evening news with... NCTraveler Jan 2017 #22
It won't be on NBC- they are in business with Trump redstateblues Jan 2017 #30
If found to be accurate, he sure will. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #31
I'd like to see the hard evidence too. We know he's a cad, racist, buffoon, etc. Hoyt Jan 2017 #4
"Just grab 'em by the pussy" isn't hard enough evidence for you? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #6
Talking like that isn't illegal SHRED Jan 2017 #8
We already have proof of contact with Russia, LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #10
I'm looking for actionable court worthy evidence SHRED Jan 2017 #12
Of ***COURSE*** you are. LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #13
? SHRED Jan 2017 #15
What proof do we have that he contacted them illegally? Look, I'd love for the guy to take a fall, Hoyt Jan 2017 #14
He says there were no deals. Calista241 Jan 2017 #16
That's the way I see it too. Without proof of requesting help from Russia, we look like GOPers Hoyt Jan 2017 #21
Or if the Russians reached out to him with blackmail material. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #23
Are we looking for the pee stained mattress? WhiteTara Jan 2017 #27
The one Putin himself had thrown out and burned? meow2u3 Jan 2017 #32
Yeah. That one. WhiteTara Jan 2017 #36
I said he's a cad -- immoral, boorish, misogynistic, and worse -- but that is not illegal. Hoyt Jan 2017 #11
FBI should have a warrant to hack all of Trump campaigns emails phone calls to determine connection MrPurple Jan 2017 #17
Not the FBI we know today, and certainly not the FBI we'll have after Friday dalton99a Jan 2017 #18
Unfortunately not, Obama/NSA should have gotten a FISA court warrant for this in July MrPurple Jan 2017 #25
When Benedict Donald has a vagina or brown skin... that would be evidence enough for them uponit7771 Jan 2017 #19
All the people who control edhopper Jan 2017 #20
We need to wait until this is fully investigated and we can have confidence in the report. Thinkingabout Jan 2017 #24
When it's too late! liberal N proud Jan 2017 #26
Like Nixon, Trump will commit an act that causes the whole nation to take notice randr Jan 2017 #28
In Nixon's era, there wasn't an alternative partisan media confusing people to reality MrPurple Jan 2017 #35
Very true, Twitler has not fired a special prosecutor, yet. randr Jan 2017 #37
Reports are at least 3 people have it, including the FBI onecaliberal Jan 2017 #29
When Pootie knows that Dump is toast, he will dump the sex tapes. roamer65 Jan 2017 #33
Nope, because he's doing the same thing in Europe, Africa and South America so the last thing he's bettyellen Jan 2017 #34
Jan 21st Separation Jan 2017 #38
Now we know why old Pee Head is trying to keep his private security. Old Terp Jan 2017 #39

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. There are rumors of videotapes....
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:08 PM
Jan 2017

and offers of million dollar rewards from some sleazy magazines. Hope that shakes the evidence out of the shadows soon! I can hardly wait to see drumpf fall flat on his keister.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
3. When the CIA, NSA, FBI, etc... comes forward
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:14 PM
Jan 2017

And says they have names, dates, and times contact was made and that this evidence will be turned over to start prosecutions.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
7. It's a big agency and there are others
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jan 2017

So you think all agencies are in on the cover up?

Maybe but just curious.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
9. I think they know who their fucking BOSS is.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jan 2017

They just might want to keep their heads down and keep their pension.

Holy. fucking. wow. O---kay dude.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. Hard enough to make Lester Holt open the evening news with...
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jan 2017

"Trump directly collaborated with the Russians to run interference and help him win the campaign."

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
31. If found to be accurate, he sure will.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:46 PM
Jan 2017

Holt had some scathing commentary on Trump during the campaign. He would absolutely cover it if verified. He has discussed the document currently making the rounds.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. I'd like to see the hard evidence too. We know he's a cad, racist, buffoon, etc.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:15 PM
Jan 2017

You'd think with all the accusations, there would be something. Heck, the 20 something women that said he groped or outright raped them, just disappeared after the elections.

I know some of the accusations have to be true, but where is the hard evidence. Of course, his supporters won't care if the find videos of him with Putin.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
8. Talking like that isn't illegal
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jan 2017

It's horrendous though.

We need proof of contact with Russia and what information was exchanged.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
10. We already have proof of contact with Russia,
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:22 PM
Jan 2017

the idea that your parameter is that you need to know what they talked about is absolutely crazy.

But whatever dude.

 

SHRED

(28,136 posts)
12. I'm looking for actionable court worthy evidence
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jan 2017

All the "whatever dude" won't change circumstantial evidence to hard evidence.

I want him nailed.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. What proof do we have that he contacted them illegally? Look, I'd love for the guy to take a fall,
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jan 2017

but so far, there is no proof he did anything more than some business deals with Russia. Again, with all the accusations, someone has to have photos, documents, etc. The fact there was a dossier, doesn't mean a lot.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
16. He says there were no deals.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jan 2017

He was looking at the possibility of a Trump hotel is Moscow or St. Petersburg.

And none of that is illegal. Even if he met with Putin himself on a potential deal. If he was just a hotel operator / owner, I wouldn't even care.

THe only thing that would be remotely illegal is if his campaign actively sought out the help of the Russian intelligence.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
21. That's the way I see it too. Without proof of requesting help from Russia, we look like GOPers
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:54 PM
Jan 2017

as far as spreading rumors. I get Trump deserves it and people are upset with the election results, but we need more.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
23. Or if the Russians reached out to him with blackmail material.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 02:00 PM
Jan 2017

He would have been required to report it. People would probably even find more disgust with it.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
25. Unfortunately not, Obama/NSA should have gotten a FISA court warrant for this in July
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 02:54 PM
Jan 2017

It would have been warranted and now I fear that once Trump has the power to order surveillance of his enemies we will be entering a new environment and it's not going to be a remotely fair playing field.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
20. All the people who control
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 01:50 PM
Jan 2017

all the agencies will have allegiance to Trump.
After Friday, nothing will come of it. It will all be suppressed.
We see that Comey was already in trump's camp.

randr

(12,412 posts)
28. Like Nixon, Trump will commit an act that causes the whole nation to take notice
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 03:16 PM
Jan 2017

And as like Watergate the Nation will hope our Constitution will prevail as we watch every shred of evidence paraded out for public scrutiny.
In my dreams

MrPurple

(985 posts)
35. In Nixon's era, there wasn't an alternative partisan media confusing people to reality
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:03 PM
Jan 2017

I'm not optimistic, at this point, of Trump's misdeeds taking him down. The fact that half the population is spun by Fox and orchestrated internet/social media sources is a ripe environment for him to get away with nearly anything. Nixon only came down because John Dean was in his inner circle and was willing to tell the truth (unlike all of Nixon's other lackeys).

A significant part of the population is sold on Trump's claims of bogus jobs created and discount practically any criticisms against him as coming from a biased liberal media. There's a steady drumbeat of disinformation from alternative media sources that didn't exist in Nixon's area, and that props Trump up.

Would Nixon have tried anything as ham handed as holding a press conference where he wheeled out thousands of empty folders that purported to show work he'd done against corruption? That dumbed down prop wouldn't have worked then, the press wouldn't have stood for it.

We live in a dumbed down reality show era with a fragmented, disempowered press, and I don't have faith in Trump and Bannon not continuing to exploit it. It's shocking that they've gotten this far and once they have their hands on the instruments of power, they're going to be more formidable.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
33. When Pootie knows that Dump is toast, he will dump the sex tapes.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jan 2017

If Pootie can't get what he wants, he will do it just to fuck with our system.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
34. Nope, because he's doing the same thing in Europe, Africa and South America so the last thing he's
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jan 2017

Going to do is to give evidence that he's been setting people up for blackmail.
What he CAN do is make sure people find out what he is hiding regarding his deals there and in China. that can get out without people blaming him at all.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
38. Jan 21st
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 08:15 PM
Jan 2017

Im betting/hoping they already have a case being built and can only act until he takes the oath of office.

Old Terp

(464 posts)
39. Now we know why old Pee Head is trying to keep his private security.
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 09:28 PM
Jan 2017

When you think back, his lies about Hillary and the Russian sites were coming out about the same time. I think the word we are looking for starts with "t".

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