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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:00 PM Jan 2017

"Sane Progressive" Youtube Channel - Pro-Russia/Anti-Democratic Party Progressives?

Is there really a community of liberals or progressives who are attacking leading Democrats, using Bernie as a wedge within the Democratic party, defending Russia, and generally attacking Democrats from the "left"?

I can't imagine there are, but there is apparently a youtube channel dedicated to pushing this weird perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxpfmCp2Z9VPTO7eWV6ebzQ



For example, defending the repeal of the ACA as a mechanism for bringing about single payer? Even Bernie Sanders is not pushing this idea of taking away healthcare coverage from millions of Americans.



Up is down, left is right, and there is actually someone going through the trouble and putting in the resources to host a youtube channel dedicated to attacking Democrats from the left.

This reminds of an article by the NY Times that might explain the phenomena of progressives giving Donald Trump a free pass.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html?_r=0

Savchuk’s revelations about the agency have fascinated Russia not because they are shocking but because they confirm what everyone has long suspected: The Russian Internet is awash in trolls. “This troll business becomes more popular year by year,” says Platon Mamatov, who says that he ran his own troll farm in the Ural Mountains from 2008 to 2013. During that time he employed from 20 to 40 people, mostly students and young mothers, to carry out online tasks for Kremlin contacts and local and regional authorities from Putin’s United Russia party. Mamatov says there are scores of operations like his around the country, working for government authorities at every level. Because the industry is secretive, with its funds funneled through a maze of innocuous-sounding contracts and shell businesses, it is difficult to estimate exactly how many people are at work trolling today. But Mamatov claims “there are thousands — I’m not sure about how many, but yes, really, thousands.”

The boom in pro-Kremlin trolling can be traced to the antigovernment protests of 2011, when tens of thousands of people took to the streets after evidence of fraud in the recent Parliamentary election emerged. The protests were organized largely over Facebook and Twitter and spearheaded by leaders, like the anticorruption crusader Alexei Navalny, who used LiveJournal blogs to mobilize support. The following year, when Vyascheslav Volodin, the new deputy head of Putin’s administration and architect of his domestic policy, came into office, one of his main tasks was to rein in the Internet. Volodin, a lawyer who studied engineering in college, approached the problem as if it were a design flaw in a heating system. Forbes Russia reported that Volodin installed in his office a custom-designed computer terminal loaded with a system called Prism, which monitored public sentiment online using 60 million sources. According to the website of its manufacturer, Prism “actively tracks the social media activities that result in increased social tension, disorderly conduct, protest sentiments and extremism.” Or, as Forbes put it, “Prism sees social media as a battlefield.”

The battle was conducted on multiple fronts. Laws were passed requiring bloggers to register with the state. A blacklist allowed the government to censor websites without a court order. Internet platforms like Yandex were subjected to political pressure, while others, like VKontakte, were brought under the control of Kremlin allies. Putin gave ideological cover to the crackdown by calling the entire Internet a “C.I.A. project,” one that Russia needed to be protected from. Restrictions online were paired with a new wave of digital propaganda. The government consulted with the same public relations firms that worked with major corporate brands on social-media strategy. It began paying fashion and fitness bloggers to place pro-Kremlin material among innocuous posts about shoes and diets, according to Yelizaveta Surnacheva, a journalist with the magazine Kommersant Vlast. Surnacheva told me over Skype that the government was even trying to place propaganda with popular gay bloggers — a surprising choice given the notorious new law against “gay propaganda,” which fines anyone who promotes homosexuality to minors.

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“The point is to spoil it, to create the atmosphere of hate, to make it so stinky that normal people won’t want to touch it,” Volkov said, when we met in the office of Navalny’s Anti-Corruption Foundation. “You have to remember the Internet population of Russia is just over 50 percent. The rest are yet to join, and when they join it’s very important what is their first impression.” The Internet still remains the one medium where the opposition can reliably get its message out. But their message is now surrounded by so much garbage from trolls that readers can become resistant before the message even gets to them. During the protests, a favorite tactic of the opposition was making anti-Putin hashtags trend on Twitter. Today, waves of trolls and bots regularly promote pro-Putin hashtags. What once was an exhilarating act of popular defiance now feels empty. “It kind of discredited the idea of political hashtags,” says Ilya Klishin, the web editor for the independent television station TV Rain who, in 2011, created the Facebook page for the antigovernment protests.

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"Sane Progressive" Youtube Channel - Pro-Russia/Anti-Democratic Party Progressives? (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2017 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Stand and Fight Jan 2017 #1
Yes, it's a thing BainsBane Jan 2017 #2
These people are not progressives. geomon666 Jan 2017 #3
Agree. Yet, On DU, Many Folks Followed Her Until... TomCADem Jan 2017 #5
Wonder what her JPR name is...nt SidDithers Jan 2017 #4

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
2. Yes, it's a thing
Sun Jan 15, 2017, 06:21 PM
Jan 2017

Beyond the insane progressive. It shows the effectiveness of Russian propaganda. That they defend Trump and malign Booker shows how fucked up they are. They are working hard to legitimize fascism in the US. This idiot can't imagine a black man might have a principled objection to a segregationist as AJ because this vision of "progressivism" has more in common with the alt right-- as their defense of Trump makes clear--than the tradition of leftist activism in America.

Here is another take on the vote last week on prescription drugs.
https://cenlamar.com/2017/01/14/if-bernie-sanders-cares-about-cheaper-drugs-he-should-stop-smearing-his-colleagues-for-rejecting-his-flawed-amendment/

People like her badly wanted Trump to be president. The "deep state" is a threat to the white supremacy they have worked so hard for.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
5. Agree. Yet, On DU, Many Folks Followed Her Until...
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 12:23 AM
Jan 2017

...she started to turn on Bernie near the convention. Now, she is carrying water for Donald Trump, and continuing to attack Democrats even as Trump builds s conflict of interest ridden, oligarch filled cabinet.

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