So DU are the war mongers?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

http://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/the-establishment-is-trying-to-steal-the-presidency-from-trump/

Trump is standing up to "oligarchy." His cabinet doesn't please the oligarchy: 5 appointees from Goldman, at least that many billionaires, all as far right wing as exists, and they aren't the oligarchy?

He's standing in the way of war with Russia, which makes him better than Democrats. Did you know the US, and Hillary Clinton specifically, was planning war on Russia? Donald Trump, a beacon of peace amid a sea of hawks.

And then the requisite comment of how Hillary "stole" the primary, a creation of Russian propaganda, as recent investigations have determined.

And of course the rapist Assange, defender of the America's only hope for peace and democracy, the sexual predator Donald Trump. It would appear that being a sexual assailant garners particular esteem among fascists.

They claim there is a coup underway against Trump (it was put out by the Kremlin so it must be true) because of the orange one's bravery in standing up to the "establishment" and "oligarchy," you know--establishment oligarchs like John Lewis who refused to drink at the colored folks fountain like he was supposed to.

And they think their hated is justified by anger over Bernie being denied the nomination by a woman who refused to stay in the kitchen like she is supposed to. Despite my disagreements with Bernie, I have to believe he would find their deluded hate mongering and unfettered admiration for a billionaire and his despotic handler Putin every bit as repulsive as I do.

This is an example of the effect of Russian propaganda. Now granted, that propaganda would not be effective among reasonably intelligent and sane people, but the fact is too many across the political spectrum are neither. The Kremlin are masters as psy-ops, and they know whom to target. Americans may be particularly susceptible because of poor education and our news media. Whatever the explanation, this should scare the shit out of most everyone. These people vote, and we are living through the outcome of their insane choices, which they are now desperate to defend in the most bizarrely irrational ways imaginable. At least they aren't spreading their deranged ravings on this site any more.

Prospective Trump Secretary Of State, Rex Tillerson said we could form a blockade and prevent China access to some islands in the South China Sea:

Why Rex Tillerson's comments on the South China Sea have Chinese state media up in arms
Saber-rattling from Trump’s secretary of state pick has caused quite a stir.

“We’re going to have to send China a clear signal that, first, the island-building stops,” Tillerson said. “And second, your access to those islands also is not going to be allowed.”

http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/13/14264112/tillerson-south-china-sea-trump

I never saw Hillary or President Obama suggest we go to war against a superpower and a blockade is an act of war over some sand bars. No, we do not want war with an economic and military behemoth like China to satisfy Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, the Taiwan Firsters, and the Jackpine Radicals. We want friendly relations with all the nations of the world, large and small, based on mutual respect and non interference.


ON EDIT- That was a cheap shot against John Lewis. I would say so much more but I don't want my post hidden.

[get the red out]

1. That bunch

That bunch is as bad as the Trumpers.

[mcar]

2. They are out of their fricking minds

And they are not Democrats or liberals in any way. They are pro-Russia shills.

I have never read so much stupidity in one thread.

[emulatorloo]

7. There's someone in that thread pushing back on that deranged nonsense.

No doubt he or she will get banned soon.

[mcar]

9. I saw that

Don't think they'll last long. What a group of loons!

[melman]

3. Taiwan Firsters?

[Thinkingabout]

4. Putin is a propaganda machine, Trump is his top puppet in producing propaganda

Which goes against Democrats and namely President Obama and Hillary Clinton because neither can measure up to Obama or Hillary.

[lapucelle]

5. That website has been co-opted by Russia and/or the right wing.

We saw it happen with several pro-Hillary sites in 2008; they pivoted from PUMA to Tea Party seamlessly. I feel sorry for the former Democrats who are being played there. It's a ratfucking operation, the rats being BoBs and former progressive Democrats who are in the process of being turned.

[dalton99a]

8. +1.

[Igel]

6. Which oligarchy?

An oligarchy is, first and foremost, a political creature.

For many, the impression is that the wealthy are the power behind the government. Except for those politicians that we approve of--they're okay. Under this view, the wealthy are the oligarchy to be resisted.

For others the oligarchy are those who define what the culture is or should be and the politicians who enable them. Under this view, the "counterculture" intellectuals and the politicians who find their ideas enlightened are the oligarchy to be resisted.

In both cases, there's a political tie-in. But ultimately, the "true oligarchy" is either economic or intellectual, not political.

It's not like it's the monied interests that are primarily behind things like opposition to LGBT rights.

A lot of people are all about empathy, which is a good way to understand another's behavior. But often they're utterly deaf when it comes to actual understanding, and can only see their own way. A lot of such folk are on the right; a lot aren't.

[cwydro]

10. I have zero interest in that site.

Who cares?

[TrekLuver]

15. This

[oasis]

11. Jackass Deplorables absorb info from RT and Fox like it's mothers milk.

[SidDithers]

12. Segami. LOL...

Sid

[ismnotwasm]

13. Holy Fuckin Shit

That...is incredibly messed up. Glad I don't have to share a website with most of those fuckers anymore.

[ananda]

14. Those people seem mentally fragile to me.

It's not a healthy site.

[KamaAina]

16. We have trolls. Apparently, so do they.

[emulatorloo]

17. Yeah that's right. They trolled DU for years. Now they can troll each other.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

18. Segami, Sabrina, and Octafish...

I long questioned any of their common sense. Foolish conspiracy theorists, unable to think for themselves.