Every Day Makes It More Obvious That The GOP Rigged The Election Up/Down The Ticket.

[TheMastersNemesis]

It was not the just the presidential election that was rigged it was the whole thing up and down the ticket. We lost the majority as well. The election was a charade and a coup by billionaires. The GOP reveals itself as public enemy number one more every day. The terrorists are not the enemy the Republican Party is.

[KittyWampus]

1. It was death by a thousand dirty tricks.

[BlueCaliDem]

31. This is how Republicans remain in power - stealing, cheating, purging eligible names of PoC from

voting lists, enact the most egregious voter suppression laws that makes it all but impossible for PoC to vote, and pitting Liberals against Democrats.

Republicans know that they can never win an election fair and square. We know it, too. But apparently elected Dems don't (or don't want to acknowledge it) and the corrupt GOP and their money-masters happily continue to steal our democracy away unfettered.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. Sums it up pretty nicely.

[elleng]

4. Been doing the same for a long time.

Anyone want to state/guess when was the last REALLY fair election?

[Dustlawyer]

16. Nope, no guess. I will say this time they turned the cheating up to 11!

[elleng]

17. Yes, they surely turned it up,

with the aid of another 'superpower.'

[Achilleaze]

5. The whole corrupt Republican krewe is illegitimate

[Wellstone ruled]

6. Said the same.

Watching some things that were happening in certain States,like Voter Registrations,not provide adequate number of voting machines,intimidation during Primary Voting,aThat nd the Fake News Stories by the hundreds. Just a start.

[ecstatic]

7. I think trump was in on it too. He was LHAO as dems foolishly defended democracy before the election

and backed themselves into a corner. SMH

[democratisphere]

8. If you want to win elections in this corrupt country

You're going to have to fight dirty.

[MFM008]

9. And mean and viscous

I'd make them fear me more that getting ebola.

[Blanks]

26. Viscosity is especially important.

I think you mean vicious.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vicious

Sorry, I found that kind of amusing.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/viscous

[MFM008]

37. i did

i usually spell check.

[Blanks]

38. It's a word...

So spell check doesn't help.

[LaydeeBug]

10. I think the same exact thing. nt

[Hoyt]

11. I think the only real rigging was GOPers appealed to stupid white wingers and Dems were divided.

Yes, there was gerrymandering just like the last 40 years, but that didn't directly affect the vote in General Election. While a lot of people were purged from the voting rolls -- probably because they haven't voted in years, moved or died -- I didn't see a lot of evidence of people showing up at the polls and being turned away.

Yes, we let too many GOPers win local elections, but it's folly to call that rigging. We got beat.

[uponit7771]

21. The gerrymandering in 2010 was NOT like it was for 40 years, it was the second worst gerrymandinger

... gerrymandering in US history and it directly affected congress in the general election.

Also

You didn't see people being turned away in Florida either but it was 20,000 mostly PoC turned away from the polls in Florida... that no one "saw" either.... but it happened.

They also don't have to turn people at the polls they just purge the provisional ballots or deregister people before they vote like with Cross Check

[Hoyt]

22. Do you have a link for 20,000 being turned away from the polls in Florida? Again, I was probably

I'm sure I was purged in a city I used to live in. Didn't impact me because I registered in my new city. Being purged didn't keep me from voting, and until someone comes up with evidence lots of people were turned away at the polls, I don't think it was a big impact in this election. Cross Check purged mostly people just like me who were registered in a locality we moved from years ago. That is not voter suppression. Now voter ID type legislation is, but even that fails to recognize that in many states one can vote by mail or substitute a utility bill or something similar for a photo ID. That is not true everywhere, and is a problem.

[uponit7771]

23. Link inside

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/10/us/florida-list-for-purge-of-voters-proves-flawed.html?_r=0

Again, your "turned away" is a false bar there's no need to defend... THE EFFECTS... of voter suppression here because its not going to fly... people here already know it exist or have experienced it in some form.

We have the ACLU and you have some other experience ... I'll take the ACLU

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/transcripts/ccrdraft060401.htm

[Hoyt]

24. First link 2004, second link 2001. We are looking for 2016.

Admit it, no one has evidence of people being turned away from polls in 2016. We lost for other reasons and need to focus on those reasons.

Sure, voter suppression exists, but there are ways around it. In most states a picture ID is the best ID, but one can get by with other IDs. People gripe about the voting days being reduced in some areas, yet in many of those areas one can mail in a ballot with no excuse. I'm against voter suppression, but I'm also against excuses that really aren't the reason we lost the 2016 election.

[uponit7771]

25. Its 2 months from the election ?! really?! KGOP voter suppression is well documented nationwide

... the attempts and the success's.

The VRA didn't exist because people had nothing else to do

[Hoyt]

27. Seems like there would be some links to lots of people being turned away from polls. Don't see any.

Yet, there's post after post of that supposedly happening. I'm sorry, that is not why we lost. White wing racists, Comey, complacency, and the like, are much more likely.

[uponit7771]

35. Not polls, provisional ballots etc like in Kansas where they threw them out. Again, the forms of

... voter suppression are well documented and the VRA isn't in force because the DOJ has nothing else to do.

The forms of voter suppression are wide and documented

[Blanks]

29. I'm certainly no expert on this...

But if the resources from a traditionally democratic voting area are shifted to a different polling place, that's not gonna make the news. It's the kind of thing that a county clerk can 'make happen'.

Technically, the voters weren't 'turned away' but it's obvious that people didn't stick around and vote because the line was too long.

I've heard that these kind of problems are common. I'd be satisfied with an investigation into these kind of Election Day shenanigans, but when I see republicans opposing things like early voting and mail in voting, it makes me wonder just how wide spread this kind of 'voter suppression' is.

I think it's pretty widespread, but I'm open to being proven wrong by an investigation of the complaints and some news coverage.

[Hoyt]

32. I'm all for investigating specific complaints. People leaving because "the line is too long,"

doesn't sound like a good excuse -- in most areas, there is no reason to wait until the last day. I know there are some areas -- like I think Pennsylvania -- where there is no early voting, but 37 states have it (27 states allow absentee balloting by mail without any excuse, that's what I use to avoid lines, sickness, family crises, laziness on the last day, etc.). But truthfully, if one wasn't willing to stand in line to vote against Trump, that's a poor excuse.

[Blanks]

34. Someone shouldn't have to spend the entire day voting...

I'd say that you and I are mostly in agreement (especially on early voting) although I'm not sure it's fair to say people should be willing to stand in line to vote.

If your state doesn't have early voting and you are voting over your lunch hour, that seems like a pretty good excuse to not wait.

How widespread that is, I don't know.

[napi21]

12. We need to start NOW to sue the Pubs for Crosscheck! Say outrageous things to get media

attention, the same as the Pubs & The Con do. If you forgot what Crosscheck is, here's a link. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/8/1593581/-The-Crosscheck-Scheme-GOP-removing-Blacks-and-Hispanics-from-Voter-Rolls-in-Battleground-States

At the same time, we need to continue suing the Pubs for the illegal way they drew district lines. The ccourts have already found them guilty is a number of States. We need to make it ALL the States where they are guilty.

Remember, 2020 is a census year AND a Presidential election year. It's imperative that we get control of a lot more governorships than we have. WE NEED TO BE THE ONES TO DRAW THE NEW DISTRICT LINES!

[2naSalit]

13. Was convinced of that even before the election.

[BadgerMom]

14. I've wondered lately if they thought the fix was in

back in 2012 when Rove had his meltdown on Fox after Ohio was called for PBO. Had he thought he'd bought Ohio and somehow been fooled?

[uponit7771]

20. +1

[Thekaspervote]

15. Yes, and we must change that!

Eric holder Has formed a new group to deal with the gerrymandering the repubs did in 2010. President O has also said this will be one his goals.

Holder already has a website up and running... take a look AND fight back
https://democraticredistricting.com/

[Akamai]

18. Yes -- and I wish Obama had told us this early and often. About voter suppression, gerrymandering,

and the way the deck was stacked against American voters.

[uponit7771]

19. Comey, Voter suppression, Russia... !!!! I've been saying it for more than 2 months

[MrPurple]

28. The error wasn't with the polls and the exit polling

Look at all the swing states where Trump's "actual" results outperform how people said they voted in the exit polls. 7 million voters were removed from the rolls through crosscheck. And, why do electronic voting machines without any paper backup even exist? There's more accountability when you buy something at Dunkin Donuts.

And, even Trump's campaign said that Scott Walker has been rigging election results for years.

http://www.wpr.org/former-trump-advisor-scott-walker-has-rigged-5-elections

[BlueCaliDem]

30. No doubt about it. And if nothing is done, if elected Dems don't put up a stink NOW, we'll keep

losing elections as Republicans continue to steal our elections and remain the majority in power. I'm sure they'll allow a few Dems to win in order to keep up the farce that our elections aren't rigged, but we'll never have the majority again.

[hollowdweller]

33. I would love to see Obama, Hillary, and Holder

Join forces and start an organization that would fight legally and PR wise gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement across the country.

[MrPurple]

36. Obama should start a new ACORN

Funded by donations. Focus on registering and getting ID's when necessary and maximizing turnout, and suing over those who have been illegally purged from voter rolls.