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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs anyone else melting down?
Can't stop crying
It is not that an opposition party won. Done that, lived through it.
It is the utter sadness of all these traditions that I didn't think
were important are chipping away at all I have known
The President lives in the White House
The first lady lives in the White House
The Press has open access in the White House
The first lady is dignified
The President is dignified. They may be 100% wrong but they have a modicum of honor and dignity.
The President doesn't fire a life long parade announcer
The President didn't participate in a golden shower to defile the former president.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)"Look what you've done, you orange haired fool! I'm melting! Melting!"
Jacob Boehme
(789 posts)....sometimes things have to break down before they can be rebuilt.
We will survive!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)opposition. Let them rise to this occassion. I beg them
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Kablooie
(18,637 posts)And after awhile the press will begin to fight back as they should have done all along.
We can hope that the Republicans and Trump, by taking the whole country down into hell, will finally shake up the Fox News dittoheads into realizing what they've been supporting.
There is a painful trip ahead but it could still be a precursor to clear skies on the other side for us all.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)I thought that the Repubs were done after that for a long time. Repbs are just too stupid in this country, along with being selfish assholes. A lot of people don't believe in science or good journalism.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)surmountable now.
cilla4progress
(24,760 posts)Spent much of it in bed. Very low energy. Fortunately found some very good black history on PBS amd OWN. Learning stuff and feeling somehow at least attentive to the movement
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)about him rigging the voting machines - of course never thought his lack of intelligence would lead to Cheney manipulated him into a fake war where hundreds of thousands died. And, I still hate them forever...but at least, he had some dignity. Can't believe I am saying that.
PlanetBev
(4,104 posts)I got really depressed today. The destruction these barbarians will carry out starts from Day 1. It's like anticipating a death in the family.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Wish I could be in DC - looking forward to what MM will do.
NJCher
(35,711 posts)the golden shower thing is a lie, an admitted lie. Sheesh.
Cher
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NJCher
(35,711 posts)Google it yourself. It is bullshit.
There are literally a dozen or more sources telling the origins of that story. It was made up and and the people who made it up admitted to it. Vanity Fair has info on it and so do other places.
Wow, I just really cannot believe anybody believes that ridiculous story. In fact, nothing in that report has been substantiated.
Cher
ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)maybe someone exaggerated the story a bit, but, who cares? It's clear the Fuhrer-Elect is a perv... hoping ALL Dems are no-shows on Friday.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)it may not be true.
SalviaBlue
(2,917 posts)Because it is fucking plausible.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Response to NJCher (Reply #24)
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Did is just as bad as calling it absolute fact. Obviously Bernstein was the brains behind the two. People should say it is in the process of being confirmed.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Toward HRC the majority of them are glad Trump won.
Idiots are also trashing the Women's March because they assume it's all going to be HRC supporters. Even though several Sanders people are on the board, including Belafonte. I knew they were pretty nasty to feminists during the primary here but shit they're irredeemable now. Fucking losers.
ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)Greybnk48
(10,170 posts)I have not seen anything in the NYT or WAPO that it was shown to be false!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)mountain grammy
(26,644 posts)and he lies.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Brainwash technique..fake news...fake news..fake news...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Say the details are not confirmed but it seems the source believes there are copies of very compromising audio and video. A few very credible sources are saying this. What did you read?
former9thward
(32,064 posts)The only people left are CT sites and people that like to believe that crap.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)dhill926
(16,351 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)The reports remain unsubstantiated, this is true. Unfortunately, it is all too believable from someone who thinks sexually assualting women is fun. And that, ~is~substantiated.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Or is this the new "party line" from RT? I think that's the only place I read a firm denial.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)and we can toast BE. It is truer than true. BUT...we need to concentrate on a link between T staff and Kremlin.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It's not RT .... and I guess they're too embarrassed to admit they're still using that as a primary source.
Yes, we WILL toast when it comes out, and it will.
former9thward
(32,064 posts)Only CT blogs are still trying to push it.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 18, 2017, 03:18 PM - Edit history (1)
Not the Boston Globe, WaPo or the BBC..Link?
former9thward
(32,064 posts)We are all waiting...
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Having hookers piss on a bed because the Obamas are going to sleep in it?!?! ROFL that is right up there with the Pizzagate Pedophile ring for lameness!
ismnotwasm
(41,998 posts)And you got the wrong story--just sayin
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Without arguing over he details (so you can mock them) I'm going to believe them over some punk at 4chan.
That place is filled with Trump Humpers, just like JPR
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Would win and the fucking trolls at 4chan. Reddit and 4chan are full of trump humping trolls.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)A few articles recently about how the media needs to handle things in these extraordinary times (TPM has been a really good read for weeks)
My feeling that this can't hold - that it is all amassing into a big collapse - huge overreach before it even steps foot in the White House
My feeling that something will happen that will lead us out of this - but it is not yet possible to see what, how or when.
My inner optimist is starting to wake up again.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)dismal to me now. Think my hope now is that the decent Republicans will fight this maniac
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)Reading it was my best moment of the day.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)I am working to get a speaking gig there (in the state, somewhere!). Though maybe not this year - my dance card is pretty full and I am hard at work on book 3.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)speaking about planting and growing? Kudos, my friend.
Hard to say anything good about TX sorry
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)religion and politics. We wish her well! But there are topics we will and can't discuss with her hubby.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)intelligent and reads and studies all will work out ok !! I never lobbied, it just happens.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)my book is Epic Tomatoes (got a second one on straw bale gardening).
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Plasticvpails, growing like nuts... you had some that were multi-hued, ect... i remember being quite impressed
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)madaboutharry
(40,217 posts)The Obamas conducted themselves with grace and dignity. Every moment President Obama acted like and spoke like a President, like a statesman, like a leader.
We will now have a president who is crass and vulgar.
It makes me want to cry.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)be that that is the heart of the sadness.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)There's nothong presidential about this horse's ass. An illegitimate piece of garbage with a tremendous ego, that's Donnie Deplorable.
calimary
(81,423 posts)Same woman thinks that NOW we're about to have class and dignity back, in the form of the incoming First Floozy. First "First Lady" we've seen naked...
And yeah, I've got the blues pretty big time. Planning to be VERY VERY busy all day, away from the news (hello, Food Network, providing the noise from the other room while I'm crafting!), and my kid's band has a local gig that same night. So I won't hear or see any of the coverage that day. Probably will miss it the next day, too, since that's the L.A. march. Then, there's a Democratic group hosting several elected officials including Ted Lieu, the increasingly righteous Congress rep for my district, who I've certainly liked but am now getting to LOVE! I plan to thank him for boycotting the "Ignorguration".
I was driving home from an errand, and found myself sitting at a stop light, slack-jawed, shaking my head. I Cannot Fucking Believe that donald fucking trump is actually going to be the fucking president. CANNOT FUCKING BELIEVE IT.
Greybnk48
(10,170 posts)I wake up everyday and check for news of a Scalia type miracle OR someone coming forth with hard evidence showing how our election of Trump, Pence and the rest of them was compromised and they cannot take office.
A daily disappointment.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)the sensible, sane Republicans. What horrors will it take for them to stand tall against this maniac?
Greybnk48
(10,170 posts)Like who, pray tell. They've all jumped the shark as far as I can tell.
gademocrat7
(10,665 posts)Never in my lifetime did I think we would have such a disgraceful conman living in the White House.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)knew mattered.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)weak and fragile and hopeless.
nolabear
(41,990 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The nation will survive this also. In 48 (short?) months Trump will be gone. Or living in the Russian Embassy to escape impeachment.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)This will be much worse.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Time for ALL Dems to send a united message that the Fuhrer-Elect is NOT a legitimate President and stay the fuck away from the un-auguration!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Can they actually govern?
mountain grammy
(26,644 posts)dignity is dead.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)amazing how some of the people we despise look really good now?
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)running against putin. i stand with John Lewis. trump is illegitimate.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)only thing that inspires me now is the hope that goodness will prevail....
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)a stooge of a candidate. I can't understand how this act of aggression, and this stolen election can stand. it is illegitimate. i stand with John Lewis, and fxxk the fake outrage of the crooks. i'm just now recovering from pneumonia from the despondency. i'm not going to let that Manchurian candidate get me sick again.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)I stand with John Lewis.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)should be ok now. (with Lewis).
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)50 Shades Of Blue
(10,033 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,748 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)Somehow, for some reason, I think we are about to turn some sort of corner and things will work out. Just a feeling I've got.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,748 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)what a bizarre time this is. On one hand I am deep into garden stuff - as in working all day on it. I come up for air to peek at politics...gasp..and dive back in to gardening stuff!
I have a good excuse to utterly ignore the inauguration - I turn 61 that day (as does Bill Maher believe it or not!). Lunch out, a nice cake...and planning for our Florida Keys trip (that is where we will celebrate Sue turning 60!)
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)the simple pleasures in life. Watching and nursing a living thing. Enjoying the natural beauties of the ocean.
And when things get to the point of imminent disaster, fight like our likes depend on it.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,748 posts)I've stayed in Key West, but there are so many great places to choose from!
I plan to re-watch Season 6 of Downton Abbey on Friday. No news.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,748 posts)Initech
(100,097 posts)As in fuck it, just sit back and watch the collapse. Outside of Trump starting World War III, which he probably most likely will do when he starts the mass deportations and Tillerson blocks the South China Sea, nearly anything he does will be an epic fail. I'm taking a page from George Carlin and Lewis Black - sit back and watch the show.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)the traditions I knew to be true my whole life are gone. It will pass and I hope to be on your wavelength ASAP
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)settling in to watch the collapse...
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)I feel like I aged 10 years in the last two months.
I've drained my bank account donating to causes that I know are going to need me even more over the next few years.
I'm literally sick whenever I think of that fat orange ass in the Oval Office. Literally sick, as in puking, headache, sick to my stomach.
At the same time, I am ready to stand up and fight. I might get injured, I WILL get insulted, I might even die.
It all sounds dramatic when written down. But it's either fight or die anyway. I will fight.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Planned Parenthood?
I told her it was too soon to see where the biggest hurt/biggest impact was going to be.
what do you recommend?
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)My biggest donation so far has been to Planned Parenthood but I've also given to the Southern Povery Law Center, the ACLU, NARAL and the Democratic Party. I also set up my Amazon account so that a tiny percent of anything I purchase from Amazon goes to Greg Palast's efforts. And I'm about to switch from AT &T -- which refuses to stop advertising on Breitbart -- to CREDO. For Christmas I bought exclusively from UNICEF and the Rainforest Site (at https://therainforestsite.greatergood.com/store/trs/category/285/sale). I'm trying to put all my disposable income where it will do the most good. Thanks for asking!
nancy1942
(635 posts)I have never been so depressed as I am now. It is unbearable.
onecaliberal
(32,882 posts)That is truly believe was partially caused by the election. He was so angry about it.
ecstatic
(32,727 posts)I'm all cried out. I think. I've accepted that this nation is pretty much over because our electorate is way too ignorant. A well informed electorate is crucial for democracy.
I really don't see a path forward, especially as precedent after precedent is either being set or dismantled lately. We have no safe guards. Trump can and will do whatever he wants, and the media will continue to focus on everything except what actually matters.
Still, I can't get too upset because, at the end of the day, karma's a bitch. What starts bad, ends bad.
herding cats
(19,566 posts)I've been dealing, mostly, since the shock of the election results. Ok, that's a Trump level lie, I melted down rather epically, and rebuilt myself from the ashes. I'd thought I was on pace to work, and manage things again, though.
Then, today, I lost it again. I have no idea why I melted down again. I have a plan. I've written to President Obama and said my thanks and goodbye. I thought I was focused, on track and ready to kick ass. Then out of the blue I just lost it. Yes, I cried for our country, too.
I'm working on getting myself back in line again. I'm a fighter.
I saw a local Republican lawmaker say they didn't know how much "fun" this would be, yet. That helped refocus me. Fuck them, but thank you all the same for remiding me why I have to fight, asshat!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Today, it was the obvious fact that Trump does not want the press near the WH? what did me in. And the bullshit about having a bigger room for press conferences - how absurd - like he really wants more people shouting.
It is about he WH press room - where Mara Liasson said you could go to whenever you wanted and ask a question. THAT is what Trump is trying to dismantle. ASSHOLE.
herding cats
(19,566 posts)Thing is, I don't want that to effect me. I'm smart, I know it's all part of the psychodrama intended to rent room in my head. But, now and again it still works
Thank you, talking it out here helps. A lot!
Tomorrow I'll be tougher, more focused, and more ready. (I hope!).
We need each other, now more than ever!
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)I feel this country has gone totally, nut-jobbed whacked lead by the cowardly incompetent, Republican whipped and wholly unprofessional spineless media; an anti-humanity party of soulless, guttersnipe, misogynist, racist, bigoted, hateful moronic slugs who have been enabled for eight years in hideous and thuggish behavior without much of a damned fight from Democrats; a lying assed, lard brained, tanning booth addicted, billious comb-over, oaffish Cretin who disrespects every political and American tradition and only honors his own pathologically narcissistic ego and is in up to his slimy-eye balls in debt to our biggest enemies, and who will no doubt continue to commit treasonous acts because no one with any fucking power has any guts or courage to knock him on his pudgy, self-aggrandizing assssss.
The dregs of the wretched worst of humanity are soon to be the administration of what was once the greatest. most respected power on earth but is now not only a laughing stock, but a runaway lethal greed driven engine of disgust and reprehensible behavior towards our earth, our health, our livelihood.
My tears are dried out...but my rage is seething.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)What would be the point?
Sure I'm going to miss the Obama's and yeah, maybe cheeto face will fuck things up, but what the hell good would melting down do?
Get up in the morning, go to work or whatever and do your best to enjoy life
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,251 posts)has shaken me to the core. yes, i get up, go to work, and it seems a momentum might be building. just hearing John Lewis verbalize what i've been feeling helps a lot. I stand with John Lewis.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,376 posts)But I just don't get the endless handwringing about this election
Did it suck? Yes. But it's been said before, we get the government we deserve in this country.
We'll survive Trump. I frankly don't think he will make it through his first term but either way, there's bugger all I can do about it right now.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)actually cry over an election, but these are unique times.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)of America would be. It's like always thinking US safe until 9-11.
It will all be assimilated and tomorrow is another day. Just that the obvious
alienation of the press in the WH set me off.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)cry baby
(6,682 posts)Bur this last week, I haven't slept much and find myself either raging or crying.
I'm gonna March in Austin Texas and I believe that's going to soothe me some.
J_William_Ryan
(1,756 posts)Indeed, we must be stronger and show greater resolve.
We must fight the evil that is Trump and Congressional Republicans.
hibbing
(10,103 posts)Same talking heads, saying the same crap, living in the same elite Washington bubble,going to the same cocktail parties, regardless of political affiliation. I don't feel like I'm putting my head in the sand, I get more substantive analysis from DU in 20 minutes than I would watching the shows for 2 hours every night. It has slowed my meltdown some, but it is still hard to believe this is happening to the country I love so much.
Peace
elmac
(4,642 posts)greedy billionaires with religious fanatics. Something evil this way comes.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)I'm pissed. Never been so pissed off in all my 72 years.
Every day I send 2,3,4 emails to every Republican I know with articles describing Trump's lies and bullshit. Making them own him.
I've added to bumper stickers to my truck:
-- I'll show your president the same respect you showed mine; and,
-- He is NOT my President
I'm organizing a sit-in at our Republican congressman's office to protest his vote to repeal ACA . . . have rounded up 25 people who will lose health insurance.
Our local Democratic Party has organized a letter-writing committee that will put at least one anti-Trump, anti-GOP letter per week in our local weekly newspapers.
SunSeeker
(51,649 posts)You will see there are a LOT of people out there who will fight this abomination. It will give you hope. I'm going to the one in Los Angeles with two friends of mine. There are already 45,000 people who have RSVP'd to that LA rally. Another 200,000 have RSVP'd to the DC rally. And there are dozens of sister rallies all over the country. Now is the time to unite and roll up our sleeves, to fight for our country. We've done it before, we can do it again. Our opponent is the most unpopular president-elect in recorded history. We can do this. We will do this. We are the future.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)Perpetrated not just by the cretinous bully at the top of this shitpile, but by millions of Americans who support him. I can't even really allow myself to fully appreciate how tragic this situation really is.
So, to stave off such debilitating grief, I'm in an almost constant state of anger, which is debilitating in it's own way, but doesn't feel nearly as bad.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,771 posts)Personally, I have dealt with crippling depression, and I get very scared when I feel myself approaching those deep dark waters again.
Flatpicker
(894 posts)to see the positives from this.
The Press' access to the WH has made for complacent press.
We've had undignified POTUS before with Nixon and Bush2.
The inauguration is a joke and the announcer will find out that not being there is a good thing.
The golden shower incident is going to help damage this creeps image and destroy his name in history.
The POTUS and FLOTUS not living in the WH will just make it easier to remove all trace of them after DT is removed from office.
DT is giving us plenty of reason to make some drastic changes to the system. Even if it's just to make sure this never happens again.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)NY penthouse with a nuke button. Surely, surely, saner minds won't allow that, right?
Flatpicker
(894 posts)I don't get the impression that he's alone much.
He seems to be the type that needs people around to feed his ego.
hay rick
(7,636 posts)It's time to fight.
MontanaMama
(23,336 posts)and freaking crazy ass outrage. Any given moment.
Spent today home with a bad case of vertigo...haven't had a bout for years so I think I will blame that on Peetus. However, I was able to start my Pussy Hat knitting project for the women's march on Saturday so ended the day feeling okay. Then at 9pm, my 11 year old son wanted to watch the Brian Williams show about President Obama and the tears flow again. I'm heartbroken.
I'm envious hearing you all speak of gardening and tomatoes! We didn't get above zero today here in MT but I know that no winter lasts forever and no spring skips its turn. Metaphor for us perhaps?
Cheers my friends. Don't know where I'd be had I not found you two months ago.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)live in R strongholds more than those who do not. Perhaps this all will awaken our democratic leaders - who I haven't seen promote us and our beliefs since Teddy decided liberal wasn't a bad word.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)As a Buddhist, I believe in the law of karma. All actions have consequences. Traitor Trump and his band of criminals will get theirs.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)The Press hasn't had open access to the White House in decades. Even the more liberal mainstream media outlets have called POTUS Obama's White House the least accessible, least transparent in history.
We put way too much faith in our politicians.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)When Obama said there would be C-span televised meetings with healthcare providers. What changes people when they get in there?
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Maybe because I/we survived eight miserable years of Bush/Cheney. Or because I have close ties to NC and have watched the GOP destroy decades of progress in a matter of months. The state booted its Republican governor in November, so there *is* hope. Or maybe it's because I'm from the Rust Belt and have seen the decline, and knew this was coming. Or maybe it's because the Democratic Party seems to FINALLY realize something is terribly wrong as it fully controls a measly six states, an historic low. With Bernie Sanders working with party leadership, I feel optimistic.
We've survived pubic hairs on Coke cans, semen-stained blue dresses, diaper-wearing, prostitute-frequenting congressmen... we'll survive Russian golden showers.
I'm ready to fight.
csziggy
(34,137 posts)My husband and I were in Washington on election day and had a very nice day at the National Museum of the American Indian. After that it's been all down hill - the election, a train trip from hell (engine broke down and it arrived nine hours late), my husband's appendix burst Thanksgiving morning and he spent three days in the hospital, my mother in law went into the hospital New Year's Eve and we lost her last Thursday with the memorial service today. That's just the personal stuff!
I'm tired, my husband is tired (though thankfully he is now well), and the bad news just keeps going. I'm up at 3:30 AM because I crashed early, woke up and can't get back to sleep.
I'm tempted to climb into a bubble and avoid the news for the next four years - but I can't do that. Our country needs us all to fight for all our citizens.
Abq_Sarah
(2,883 posts)I'm too busy in real life to waste one more second obsessing over what might happen.
Whatever happens, we'll deal with it. I'd much rather focus on the mid terms and finding a candidate for '20 who isn't an old party retread.
BainsBane
(53,041 posts)I hate it, but I'm not crying.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)I'm not melting down. To me, "melting down" means throwing in the towel and giving up. Not going to happen here. Nope. No way. I wouldn't give that treasonous orange shitstain or his braindead rube cult followers the pleasure of thinking I gave up. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Skittles
(153,174 posts)I will FIGHT these fascist bastards
STOP CRYING
Rex
(65,616 posts)Trump is doing everything he can to insult the country as fast and hard as he can.