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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 11:08 AM Jan 2017

When Nixon resigned and Ford pardoned him...

it was not the best of times for America.

The Vietnam War was about to end.

Spiro Agnew had to resign as Nixon's VP and Gerald Ford was appointed to replace him.

Gerald Ford then had to get a VP to serve out the term, even as our troops were helicoptered off the roof of the Embassy in Saigon.

Nixon had resigned in disgrace over the Watergate scandal.

The American people were looking for some honesty and decency in the White House.

They elected Jimmy Carter, one of the most decent and honest people to ever serve as President of the United States.

For some reason, these times remind me of those times.

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When Nixon resigned and Ford pardoned him... (Original Post) kentuck Jan 2017 OP
watergate on steroids with no jimmy carter in sight. unblock Jan 2017 #1
Maybe I should run for president in 2020. In_The_Wind Jan 2017 #2
jimmy? is that you? unblock Jan 2017 #5
Well ... I was born in Georgia. In_The_Wind Jan 2017 #8
i have no doubt. unblock Jan 2017 #11
I'd vote for you! Aristus Jan 2017 #14
One vote from everyone is all I want. In_The_Wind Jan 2017 #15
Not too much to ask, I think. Aristus Jan 2017 #16
Back when I was ask to run for a local office I declined the request. In_The_Wind Jan 2017 #17
Even local politics can be nasty stuff. Aristus Jan 2017 #18
I ran for US Congress in '98... kentuck Jan 2017 #21
Thanks for all the hard work you did while you were campaigning. In_The_Wind Jan 2017 #22
Watergate on steroids with no Dem majorities in sight LeftInTX Jan 2017 #3
We were invaded, seized, and are about to be occupied in the first great cyber war. gordianot Jan 2017 #4
Oh, it's much, much worse. Baitball Blogger Jan 2017 #6
I know. kentuck Jan 2017 #7
Intelligence to use against Dems in the upcoming election Dave Starsky Jan 2017 #12
Carter got swiftboated before it was a thing. rickford66 Jan 2017 #9
I love Jimmy Carter as a person, but he wasn't an effective politician. MoonRiver Jan 2017 #10
Do you remember those times, MoonRiver? kentuck Jan 2017 #13
Yes. And it was an era is shortages: gas rationing, energy crisis... VOX Jan 2017 #19
Yes, I remember. MoonRiver Jan 2017 #23
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2017 #20

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
8. Well ... I was born in Georgia.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 11:46 AM
Jan 2017

As y'all know ... Southern Women are somethin' else.

I know I could do a better job of running this country than the guy being inaugurated on Friday.

Aristus

(66,437 posts)
18. Even local politics can be nasty stuff.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 03:57 PM
Jan 2017

Candidates often use campaign rhetoric to settle old personal scores with people in the community whom they know.

Lots of things get tossed around; higher class standing, the one who intercepted the otherwise game-wimming touchdown, whose daughter made cheerleader and whose didn't.

You were right to decline.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
21. I ran for US Congress in '98...
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 04:40 PM
Jan 2017

during the height of the Clinton "blue dress" scandal.

I ran against incumbent Joel Hefley, the Chair of the House Ethics Committee , and did similar to every other Democrat that had run up to that time, except for a professor at Colorado College that had once worked for JFK. (His name escapes me at the moment)

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
22. Thanks for all the hard work you did while you were campaigning.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jan 2017


And, thanks for everything you do here at DU.

gordianot

(15,242 posts)
4. We were invaded, seized, and are about to be occupied in the first great cyber war.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jan 2017

Much like the perfect crime one you do do not know was committed, this was the perfect bloodless war one many still do not know was committed by a hostile foreign power.

In comparison Nixon and the 70's were nothing.

Baitball Blogger

(46,754 posts)
6. Oh, it's much, much worse.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 11:24 AM
Jan 2017

America did not have a president that was colluding with a foreign country.

BTW, Watergate was much more than just a break in. Can someone recall the full story about what Nixon was after?

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
7. I know.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 11:39 AM
Jan 2017

And there is no Jimmy Carter campaigning in Iowa.

It reminds me of those times but it is much worse. You are correct.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
12. Intelligence to use against Dems in the upcoming election
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:34 PM
Jan 2017

In the DNC's office at the Watergate.

Nixon had a group working for him called CREEP (Committee to Reelect the President--I shit you not) whose purpose was to get him reelected by any means.

So it was basically a lower-tech, microscale version of what Russia just did in this recent election.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
10. I love Jimmy Carter as a person, but he wasn't an effective politician.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 12:00 PM
Jan 2017

We need somebody with more pizzazz and clout.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
13. Do you remember those times, MoonRiver?
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 03:35 PM
Jan 2017

When he came into office, it was the worst recession we had seen in a long time. The doubling of gas prices was a hard hit on everyone.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
19. Yes. And it was an era is shortages: gas rationing, energy crisis...
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 04:06 PM
Jan 2017

Meat shortages, water (in California, first-time water rationing), etc.

The fallout from the Nixon years was long and dreary. Who knows what misery a Trump administration can create.

H2O Man

(73,581 posts)
20. Recommended.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jan 2017

The connections between Watergate, Iran-Contra, WMD/yellow cake, et al, are links in a chain spanning the last half-century. The cancer has grown, and spread throughout the body of "politics." To fully understand exactly where we are today -- and why -- one needs to have a full understanding of that chain's growth. Otherwise, one can not fully fight back.

I had been working on an essay on this exact topic two weeks ago, until my computer shit the bed ......

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