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orangecrush

(19,633 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:32 PM Feb 2017

Trump: I will tell McConnell to 'go nuclear' if Democrats hold up Gorsuch nomination

President Donald Trump said he will urge Senate Republicans to scrap filibuster rules, or take the so-called "nuclear option," if Democrats in the increasingly tense chamber use them to block his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
After Trump appointed Gorsuch, the 49-year-old conservative appeals judge, to the top U.S. court Tuesday night, Democrats signaled they could delay the nomination. If they filibuster, Republicans, who have 52 Senate seats, would need 60 votes to confirm him unless they cut that rule.
Trump told reporters Wednesday that he would encourage Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., to take that route, which would require only a simple majority.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/02/01/trump-i-will-tell-mcconnell-to-go-nuclear-if-democrats-hold-up-gorsuch-nomination.html?client=ms-android-boost-us

Democrats must stand steady and firm

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Trump: I will tell McConnell to 'go nuclear' if Democrats hold up Gorsuch nomination (Original Post) orangecrush Feb 2017 OP
Well, screw you DT Rustyeye77 Feb 2017 #1
and they will... dhill926 Feb 2017 #2
Afraid orangecrush Feb 2017 #7
I believe the concept of protest is lost on Trump starshine00 Feb 2017 #12
National strike orangecrush Feb 2017 #19
sounds good to me starshine00 Feb 2017 #21
Their kids orangecrush Feb 2017 #26
they might not eat tomorrow without a job starshine00 Feb 2017 #27
I lived in shelters orangecrush Feb 2017 #30
I did not know this starshine00 Feb 2017 #32
Democrats have to fight this, tooth and nail. femmocrat Feb 2017 #3
The puppet's puppet will conform BSdetect Feb 2017 #4
I thought tanking the filibuster NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #5
That's what I thoughr orangecrush Feb 2017 #8
Fine, but if Dems take both houses in 2018 they should impeach Gorsuch Johonny Feb 2017 #6
That orangecrush Feb 2017 #9
Can you impeach a SCOTUS justice? Initech Feb 2017 #11
Yes orangecrush Feb 2017 #20
great idea starshine00 Feb 2017 #13
Just invoke the McConnell Rule gratuitous Feb 2017 #10
He'll Tell McConnell? ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #14
Mitch is Trump's errand boy now. C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #28
Turtle's his piss-boy and he's waiting for the shake. n/t woodsprite Feb 2017 #29
Brilliant. athena Feb 2017 #15
Exactly! mvd Feb 2017 #16
Yes, it should be an OP, athena Feb 2017 #17
Should be an op orangecrush Feb 2017 #23
Little Donald gets really excited over the concept of anything nuclear spiderpig Feb 2017 #18
Yeah orangecrush Feb 2017 #24
So he thinks he has a say? treestar Feb 2017 #22
Good. If this bozo is going into SCOTUS this is how it should happen Takket Feb 2017 #25
The executive is not supposed to give orders to the Senate malaise Feb 2017 #31
Clearly, no one's explained to you how Trump's New White Empire is going to work. Volaris Feb 2017 #33
True but for that to happen the clean up wil have to take place among Dems as well malaise Feb 2017 #34

dhill926

(16,370 posts)
2. and they will...
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:33 PM
Feb 2017

and then it's over. Only way to reverse this shit, is at the ballot box. And you better believe they're gonna try and fix that too.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
12. I believe the concept of protest is lost on Trump
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:48 PM
Feb 2017

the concept of the constitution is lost on Trump.

I think we need to ring the ears off our congresspeople's telephones for the next two years and make them fear for their political lives. Protestors are just the great unwashed to Trump.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
21. sounds good to me
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 02:10 PM
Feb 2017

but when you are talking about people with kids who can't afford that drastic of a measure...

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
27. they might not eat tomorrow without a job
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 02:17 PM
Feb 2017

I went to a food bank the other night and it was pure insanity. The organizers were running around sweating bullets, they had to give out tickets for a 'lottery' after the people who'd gotten places in line got their food because there were so many people, so not everyone was going to get food. I had gotten there just in time to get one of the actual line numbers. A woman sat down next to me frantic because she'd never been there before & didn't know what to do & now was late & didn't get a number, she was assigned to be part of the lottery for leftover food, I asked her if she had kids, she said 'just one' so I handed her my number and walked out. The whole situation was so depressing...I know how to survive and have eaten my share of dumpster-dived food. I don't think people like this woman are going to come out for a national strike. But a percentage will. I am not saying it is a bad idea at all, I just think people are so desperate now they can't take anymore losses.

orangecrush

(19,633 posts)
30. I lived in shelters
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:24 PM
Feb 2017

I know what you mean.

Unions,do have,strike funds though.

A week or two of all the major unions striking would bring Trump crashing to eatth.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
32. I did not know this
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 07:53 PM
Feb 2017

I have never been in a union. That is good to know, can they possibly have enough funds to cover a nationwide strike? Trump will probably just demand everyone be fired. I know so many of my railroad worker cousins who are in unions voted for Trump. They do this kind of crap all the time. My brother is a republican and he is in a union but votes for republicans all the time (though he hated Trump).

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
5. I thought tanking the filibuster
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:37 PM
Feb 2017

would be something that needs to be done at the start of a senate session?

Johonny

(20,895 posts)
6. Fine, but if Dems take both houses in 2018 they should impeach Gorsuch
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:40 PM
Feb 2017

because he was improperly vetted...

They want petty then get petty.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
13. great idea
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:50 PM
Feb 2017

I have never felt more optimistic about taking back Congress, this is why I don't think that the left should expend all our energy on protest at this admin who are tone deaf to it.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Just invoke the McConnell Rule
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:46 PM
Feb 2017

Remember that Sen. McConnell said that President Obama didn't represent the true will of the American people because his party lost seats in the 2014 election, even though President Obama had won re-election with a majority vote in 2012. President Trump, by the same token (no pun intended), similarly does not represent the true will of the American people, because not only did he fail to win a majority of the popular vote in 2016, he didn't capture even a plurality of the vote, and his party was outpolled in the national popular vote. Therefore, the Senate is bound under the McConnell Rule to refuse even a committee hearing for Judge Gorsuch.

That's how things work now, isn't it? We can't go against the ironclad rules laid down by the Senate Majority Leader can we?

ProfessorGAC

(65,228 posts)
14. He'll Tell McConnell?
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:50 PM
Feb 2017

He's giving order to Congress? And those idiots are ok with this? So much for co-equal branches of government.

Takket

(21,639 posts)
25. Good. If this bozo is going into SCOTUS this is how it should happen
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 02:12 PM
Feb 2017

Our Dem leaders will be judged by us in how helpful they are to the GOP. They don't need any help so don't give it. Make them go nuclear. It makes gorsuch less legitimate. Don't give anything Trump does legitimacy.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
33. Clearly, no one's explained to you how Trump's New White Empire is going to work.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:30 PM
Feb 2017

I say, if Senate Republicans are dumb enough now to cut their own throats 2 or 4 years from now by getting rid of the filibuster, then let's be smart enough to just let them do the bidding of the Madman. Yes, it will hurt between now and then, and yea, the Courts specifically and Justice as both a concept and a department will require a deep cleaning after but if we dig our feet into the real work that this Nation needs AND MEAN IT THIS TIME, we will still be better coming out the other side than when we started.

malaise

(269,202 posts)
34. True but for that to happen the clean up wil have to take place among Dems as well
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 08:36 PM
Feb 2017

I can't process this mess

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