On the "Hand over cell phones, social media passwords" drivel....

[TygrBright]

WHY?

It'll only annoy innocent people, and it won't inconvenience "bad hombres" in the slightest. Everyone knows how to set up dummy social media accounts. Everyone knows where to get burner phones, and how to pull and conceal SIM cards.

This isn't just "security theater", it's STUPID "security theater."

Are they trying to INVITE infiltrators with evil intent, as well as piss the otherwise-friendly people off?

WTF? This makes no sense.

bewilderedly,
Bright

(Oh, and P.S.-- THANKS to my heart donors!)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

1. it's about humiliating non whites and/or non christians

a lot of this admin is about that

[KewlKat]

2. just home from work. can you expand the details a bit or provide a link?

Who is it that has to hand over cell phones, etc.?

[TygrBright]

3. OH, sorry... Here ya go:

US could ask visa applicants for social media passwords

and

White House discussing asking foreign visitors for social media info and cell phone contacts

That's some serious stupid...

bemusedly,
Bright

[KewlKat]

4. pretty lame.....i suppose we're all next.

[TygrBright]

5. Yep... Pathetic, with a side of weak sauce. n/t

[crazycatlady]

6. There's a show on Netflix about Australia border patrol

(Note-- a reality show is not the best source). However, Australia also checks cell phones, emails, social media, etc for people crossing the border (ie looking for evidence that you're working on a tourist visa) if they suspect anything.

I also haven't traveled internationally since the age of 12, so I've never dealt with customs, etc.

[babylonsister]

7. I'm wondering, once it's determined that a

person isn't a 'fan' of dt, what excuse will be used to kick them out.


http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/us-visitors-may-have-hand-over-social-media-passwords-kelly-n718216?cid=sm_fb_lastword

U.S. Visitors May Have to Hand Over Social Media Passwords: DHS

by Alexander Smith

People who want to visit the United States could be asked to hand over their social-media passwords to officials as part of enhanced security checks, the country's top domestic security chief said.

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly told Congress on Tuesday the measure was one of several being considered to vet refugees and visa applicants from seven Muslim-majority countries.

"We want to get on their social media, with passwords: What do you do, what do you say?" he told the House Homeland Security Committee. "If they don't want to cooperate then you don't come in."

more...

[FormerOstrich]

8. I have not embraced social media myself..

so I may be wrong, but I suspect that sharing access is a violation of the Terms and Conditions of the accounts. Maybe they should read the fine print.

[politicat]

9. You do realize that DU is a social medium? Also email? And phone unlock code?

This has been happening for years - it is not new and it's a legacy of the PATRIOT ACT. Here's a 2011 document from EFF detailing the justification and how it happens, and what can be done to defend against it, and the case law citations used to support it.

https://www.eff.org/wp/defending-privacy-us-border-guide-travelers-carrying-digital-devices

Yes, it violates terms of service, but the service provider won't sue the Feds; they'll just terminate the user's account to add insult to the injury already done. Or if it's employer information, one loses one's job.

[FormerOstrich]

10. Thanks

I suppose I have an old world view of the internets . Damn...maybe even an Ostrich view! I must be slipping.

I think of DU as a Bulletin Board. Whereas, Facebook, Twitter, and those I don't use as Social Media.

Thanks for the link...I'll read up on that of which I spoke without the benefit of knowing. Then I'll know!

[politicat]

11. You're welcome.

I realize I sounded short -- but we geeks have been yelling about the Alt-right and governmental overreach for years. And we haven't been taken seriously, no matter how much we pointed out that Gamer gate really did pose a threat to a lot of people, or the 4th amendment was being deeply abridged.

[FormerOstrich]

12. I didn't think you sounded short

I was sincere.....I appreciated the input and the link.

Plus, I agree with your position on such

Have a great evening!!