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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSNBC says that Trump is planning on deporting 11 Million undocumented aliens.
Just let that sink in for a moment. Not just ones with a criminal history, ALL undocumented workers. Just wait until there are no farm hands to work the fields. No restaurant dishwashers, cooks, servers, etc.
This is new EO he is going to have a Mass Deportation Plan.
<sigh>
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Salviati
(6,008 posts)The US already has the highest rate of incarceration in the world, at over 2 million, how can people take seriously a plan to deport 5 times that many people without destroying the nation?
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)The only thing of comfort is I believe his time is limited. Damning evidence please be released on Presidents Day - or sooner.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)still_one
(92,192 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Decimated.
And then we'll all pay at the grocery store. That should sit well with voters in 2018 and 2020
CincyDem
(6,362 posts)I know we'll pay more for veggies but in the grand scheme of things, I can' say my heart bleeds for these folks.
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)fuck them, I hope they lose everything..racist, ignorant, xenophobic fuckers
CincyDem
(6,362 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Let ADM/CARGILL/some billionaire buy their land.
NickB79
(19,245 posts)And learn how to freeze and can produce, because there won't be a lot of it without millions of hired help to pick it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)foisting President Caligula on us.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)But I doubt it.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)Then cut all federal aid, all of it, food stamps, housing, medical etc and put all those people to work in the fields. No medical care will weed out the ones to sick or old to work. See? Problem solved. Fucking assholes.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,706 posts)Who does he think does most of the manual labor in hotels and restaurants, including his? Who does most of the landscaping? Who's maintaining his golf greens?
And how many rich people employ undocumented housekeepers, nannies and gardeners? Who's going to harvest the crops? In some states vegetables have already been rotting in the fields because there aren't enough people to pick them. Like it or not, many industries, especially hospitality, agriculture and construction, employ undocumented immigrants - often because they can get away with paying low wages and counting on them not to complain about labor law violations. But if those people are gone, we can all count on paying a lot more for food, services and construction. The reality is that kicking them out might create some more low-paying jobs for Americans, but the wages will have to be higher for those jobs to be filled, and the result will be higher prices for everyone.
There as always been a war in the GOP between the xenophobes who hate Mexicans and the business owners who want cheap labor. Looks like the xenophobes are winning, and the business owners, who are actually more powerful, won't like it.
salin
(48,955 posts)and it will hit Trump businesses, hard. But I doubt that he realized that when he signed it. He just isn't that deep or able to think about consequences of his actions- because being surrounded by sycophants never requires one to reflect. It is always confirmed that problems are someone else's fault.
kimbutgar
(21,153 posts)ARe going to take those below wage jobs in the meat packing industry. Or picking produce in the farm states. Yeah, I can really see those snowflakes are going to work those hard thankless jobs.
Or the rich people who have undocumented maids and nannies. I can't wait for the backlash towards the mf'er.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)suffering with all this too...but this is all that will get through to them since they have no empathy or compassion or understanding. I feel sad for them. And the ones who say they are Jesus lovers? No words.
kimbutgar
(21,153 posts)They seem to forgot who said that.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)He ran on this shit. I just don't see how it happens. Are the Russians going to help?
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Once they are finished they will no longer be able to hold us down.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)fuck you! You're a big part of the problem!!!
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)They can produce it for less in mass.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)This fucker is trying to start World War 3.
Initech
(100,076 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)NotThisTime
(3,657 posts)He doesn't want to be in a country which treats immigrants so poorly. He was not an underpaid farm hand by a long shot. 25% of our doctors and researchers are foreign born, this reaches every sector of the economy, never mind regular travelers who will go elsewhere. This is beyond bad.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Two French and one a Hong Kong born Briton.
The French said they would feel like prisoners living in the US fearing if they traveled abroad they might be refused re-entry. The British Hong Konger feared social unrest and violence.
Eugene
(61,899 posts)While I don't doubt Trump's intention to go through with this,
he will have to either convince Congress to fund it or
cut some very brutal corners.
Croney
(4,661 posts)I know! We can cull them out and find some means of transport like, say, cattle cars? They can be taken to places like, let's call them, camps! Problem solved.
But seriously... Trying to implement such a move would be totally insane. Even for the crazy orange cockroach.
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Trump is the worst disaster to ever be inflicted on the USA.
CountAllVotes
(20,874 posts)Worst thing one can think of. He's like a banshee!
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)He hasn't had an Iraq or 9/11 scale fuck-up yet.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)struggle4progress
(118,285 posts)Maybe 1.3 million were arrested in the interior of the country,, with the rest apprehended near the border
So to deport 11 million people from the interior of the US in the next 8 years must involve a budget around ten times the current deportation budget
In fact,it must involve a much heftier budget increase, since the current deportation backlog is around 500 thousand cases: if we try to ramp up to 11 million deportations, we might expect a backlog around 5 million cases
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)American immigrants. This is really just more of the same really. America has always hated others...even white others....but we have made progress and there are waaaaaay more of us than in the past- and more of them now!!!! ...so no matter what chin's up...we are on the right side and we MUST sleep well at night.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)Better get ready to pay a whole hell of a lot more to buy produce, Christmas trees, food at restaurants, hotel rooms, and yard work. These people may be here undocumented but they work hard and do work a lot of Americans think they are to good for. Hey, Trump these are human beings you are hurting!!
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)My students are already frightened about what's going to happen to their parents. Already a couple have been separated from their fathers and they fear they may not see them for years.
I hope Trump and his enablers rot in hell.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Share a Greenwich Village apartment with Vladimir Putin. Nuke Iran. Build the wall and make Mexico pay for it. Serve two terms. I doubt very much he will come anywhere close to doing any of those things. Deporting undocumented people is complicated and expensive. Unfortunately, he will go for the low hanging fruit to start out, and that probably means mostly farm workers.
Takket
(21,571 posts)True Americans would never let the military round up people and load them onto buses in the streets. They would block any attempt to do so.
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,799 posts)Just what he wants. Chaos.
Dallasdem1988
(77 posts)To round up 11 million people is either very ignorant or willfully denying the holocaust which is sick. This man and his SS are salivating at the chance to deport these poor people back to those horrible places.
PsychoBabble
(837 posts)...allow it. If he tries it, then >>
MASSIVE NON-VIOLENT RESISTANCE, every day, in every way, until they back down. Continue what the women of America showed us just a few weeks ago.
Most communities/cops are not going to kill their own legal citizens in order to deport.