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Native

(5,940 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:47 AM Feb 2017

Chris Matthews picked up on something very interesting about Cheetolini's therapy session yesterday

Matthews...discerned something revealing about Trump’s answer to reporters’ questions in the East Room of the White House. And Matthews put it into historical context.

Whenever answering (or dodging) inquiries about his campaign’s involvement with the Russians, Matthews said, Trump used phrases like “to the best of my knowledge” and “I don’t recall” to deflect questions without quite denying them.

Matthews compared Trump’s “weasel words” to those of Alger Hiss, an American who spied for the Soviet Union during the Red Scare of the Cold War.

“Those are ways to avoid perjury,” Matthews said of Trump’s word choices. “They’re not truth-telling, generally.”


Matthews also said the press conference was "manic" - like listening to a guy “on a couch explaining his problems to a shrink.”

http://observer.com/2017/02/jake-tapper-cnn-donald-trump-press-conference/
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Chris Matthews picked up on something very interesting about Cheetolini's therapy session yesterday (Original Post) Native Feb 2017 OP
Thanks for posting. Drumpf as they say has been "lawyered up." DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #1
Thank you, Native Cha Feb 2017 #2
Cha, did you see Hollywood Reporter's rundown of the presser? It was spot on. Native Feb 2017 #3
No.. but I've been enjoying the hell out of all Cha Feb 2017 #5
Don't know. But here's a link. Native Feb 2017 #7
Whoa.. "It was a rambling, bellicose affair that will be studied by psychology students for decades Cha Feb 2017 #8
First, he deflected the lie by saying, "I was talking about Republicans" world wide wally Feb 2017 #13
Well, he did get the most Electoral College votes... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #15
Which is still wrong - - HW Bush crushed Dump's EC total. Charles Bukowski Feb 2017 #31
The rest of the world knows that... but somebody told Trump something world wide wally Feb 2017 #33
That exchange surprised me - Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #38
Nice appetizers there, Cha! I just may have to find a vid now. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #19
It was painful to watch. Rambling, incoherent, angry, nasty, insulting. notdarkyet Feb 2017 #22
I wish we could get rid of all the puke propaganda mills---they're the reason this BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #25
How about they show his press conference but play the audio from Keystone Cops? LiberalFighter Feb 2017 #49
I've only watched it through Colbert, Trevor Noah, and reading this Cha Feb 2017 #36
Here, in a nutshell captures that insane presser: NastyRiffraff Feb 2017 #43
Trying to blame his Cha Feb 2017 #44
I actually texted my son during the presser mcar Feb 2017 #32
lol Cha Feb 2017 #37
Have made posters DK504 Feb 2017 #20
Have to say- Matthews own show is like HIS therapy session. He spouts off the whole time, KittyWampus Feb 2017 #4
I know, I can't watch him any longer. Haven't for over a year. Native Feb 2017 #6
Same here. notdarkyet Feb 2017 #23
And he reminds everyone, each and every broadcast that is Bohunk68 Feb 2017 #14
Or he interrupts everyone to compare some comment or situation to a movie... manicraven Feb 2017 #28
He spouts and sputters and then spittle goes flying... manicraven Feb 2017 #29
My hope: The enabling GOP will pay for their support of this mad man. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #9
If the Dems are smart enough to paint the GOP into Enoki33 Feb 2017 #12
Seriously.I have images in my mind of puke ryan beaming with joy BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #21
BIG DIFFERENCE...if you are on a couch in a shrinks office... angstlessk Feb 2017 #10
Michelle Kosinski was 4th reporter to ask same question, and still didn't get a straight yes or no wishstar Feb 2017 #11
He uses the inhaling snort much the same way. gordianot Feb 2017 #16
You can't be accused of perjury if you weren't under oath. thesquanderer Feb 2017 #17
Repeat after me... Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #18
I've posted this several times since the fall debates, seems appropriate more time than I'd like: George II Feb 2017 #24
drumpf is lying and using weasle words to do it. lark Feb 2017 #26
I have noticed myself Trump and the others are using those two phrases doc03 Feb 2017 #27
K & R BadgerMom Feb 2017 #30
"I don't recall" was Ollie North's go to phrase. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #34
An the "I was given that information" he used when confronted on his lie Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #35
Trump needs to fly onto an aircraft carrier deck and then Tweety Submariner Feb 2017 #39
Yup he's giving himself some wiggle room. Trump knows that he is fucked....THEY KNOW. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #40
He lawyered up??? elleng Feb 2017 #41
More weasel: "I don't have loans in Russia" Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #42
Standard technique malthaussen Feb 2017 #45
we need a new law: tomp Feb 2017 #46
He's following Spicer's lead Moosepoop Feb 2017 #47
It's the same language used The Wizard Feb 2017 #48

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
1. Thanks for posting. Drumpf as they say has been "lawyered up."
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:57 AM
Feb 2017

A good reporter would asked Drump this question for the record: "If somebody said you were aware of your associates collaborating with Russia they would be lying ? "

Native

(5,940 posts)
7. Don't know. But here's a link.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:07 AM
Feb 2017
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/trumps-press-conference-echoes-death-throes-watergate-i-critics-notebook-976876

And this is how I truly felt watching the presser:
During his rantings and ravings, you expected white-uniformed figures to burst in with a straitjacket and a rubber net.

Cha

(297,146 posts)
8. Whoa.. "It was a rambling, bellicose affair that will be studied by psychology students for decades
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:22 AM
Feb 2017
to come."

Weird he felt the need to say "..“To be honest.." right before he told one his stupid self-serving lies.

Wants to blame his stupid FUBAR on President Obama..




"His arguments might have carried a bit more weight if they hadn’t been accompanied by a slew of lies, such as when Trump boasted about his Electoral College win. “We got 306!” he crowed. “It was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan”… except, as several reporters pointed out minutes later, it wasn’t."

“There has never been a presidency that’s done so much in such a short period of time"


Never done so much harm in a short period of time.

trump is wasting the Country's time. he's so full of fucking bullshit.

Thank you for this, Native~

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
13. First, he deflected the lie by saying, "I was talking about Republicans"
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:31 AM
Feb 2017

You could cut the bullshit with a backhoe.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
38. That exchange surprised me -
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 06:45 PM
Feb 2017

It was the closest I've seem him come to admitting lying.
It was too polished - he offered the Republicans line without a fraction of a second of hesitation, and similarly no hesitation when they called him out on his fallback lie.

Usually he just gets angry or bumbles around for a bit. I've never heard him say the equivalent of "Some people say" in apparent recognition that he'd been caught lying before. It is generally a preface to an affirmative lie.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. Nice appetizers there, Cha! I just may have to find a vid now.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:21 PM
Feb 2017

A psychological study in Narcissistic melt down? Oh yeah, that's my cup of tea!

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
22. It was painful to watch. Rambling, incoherent, angry, nasty, insulting.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:33 PM
Feb 2017

That's why he never talks, he tweets. Because if you watch him more than a few minutes it's apparent he has lost his marbles. 77 minutes or close to, and said nothing of substance just bragging on himself. I think we should petition all the cable media to quit showing this ullshit everyday because it is propaganda. Same shit different day.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
25. I wish we could get rid of all the puke propaganda mills---they're the reason this
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:44 PM
Feb 2017

Trainwreck was possible. Didn't happen overnight. They've been GROOMING the public much like a pedophile grooms his target. Start small, build up, test limits, and keep the big prize in mind.


Cha

(297,146 posts)
36. I've only watched it through Colbert, Trevor Noah, and reading this
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 06:27 PM
Feb 2017

report from the Hollywood Reporter.

I kinda eased into it.. But, you're right.. it is a case of crazy talk on steroids from the pathological Liar in MF chief.

Blanche~

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
43. Here, in a nutshell captures that insane presser:
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:42 PM
Feb 2017

From the article:

It was a rambling, bellicose affair that will be studied by psychology students for decades to come.


Honestly, I couldn't sit through the entire trainwreck, but the almost universal verdict is that the man is barking mad. Dangerously mad.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
20. Have made posters
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:26 PM
Feb 2017

for family members and other idiots in area dumb enough to vote for the Agent Orange.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
4. Have to say- Matthews own show is like HIS therapy session. He spouts off the whole time,
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:04 AM
Feb 2017

asks his guests a question and then interrupts them after they say three words to tell the world what he thinks the answer is.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
14. And he reminds everyone, each and every broadcast that is
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:37 AM
Feb 2017

Irish, Catholic, and worked for Tip O'Neill. I call him the Mandibular Masturbater. Haven't watched in a while now.

manicraven

(901 posts)
28. Or he interrupts everyone to compare some comment or situation to a movie...
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:51 PM
Feb 2017

Stopped watching him a couple years ago.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
9. My hope: The enabling GOP will pay for their support of this mad man.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:27 AM
Feb 2017

He's truly crazy. And he's got virtually unlimited power. And he's willing to use it for craziness that puts ALL of us in peril. The GOP applauds.

The GOP is itching to contest Roe v Wade, to outlaw BIRTH CONTROL, to use ICE as a 21st. Century Gestapo, and among other things, run the government as a board room for corporate operations and windfall profits. Trumpy's Fanboys are happy with all this.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
12. If the Dems are smart enough to paint the GOP into
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:23 AM
Feb 2017

the corner where they have to publicly choose between Trump/Russia and country your hope will be realized. The prevailing Republican mentality says they will choose Trump. That will be a loosing hand.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
21. Seriously.I have images in my mind of puke ryan beaming with joy
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:29 PM
Feb 2017

Standing at little lord Fauntleroy'S side, and puke mcCONnell proclaiming he's very pleased with the dumpmeister's direction so far.


That comment from googlyeyes made me want to jump through the screen and puke down his short, flabby neck.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
10. BIG DIFFERENCE...if you are on a couch in a shrinks office...
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:36 AM
Feb 2017

you know you have a problem. That will never happen with trump!

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
11. Michelle Kosinski was 4th reporter to ask same question, and still didn't get a straight yes or no
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:39 AM
Feb 2017

She said on CNN this morning that it was apparent that DT dodged the repeated questions, changed the subject, and used qualifiers in answering whether his campaign was involved with Russia

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
17. You can't be accused of perjury if you weren't under oath.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:12 PM
Feb 2017

There is still a PR benefit to not being caught in an out-and-out lie, though that never seems to have bothered Trump before.

Blue Idaho

(5,048 posts)
18. Repeat after me...
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:18 PM
Feb 2017

"I have no clear recollection..."

It worked for the Nixon Administration... at least for a while...

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. I've posted this several times since the fall debates, seems appropriate more time than I'd like:
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:43 PM
Feb 2017

"Now that I recall", "might have said something, might not"

lark

(23,091 posts)
26. drumpf is lying and using weasle words to do it.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:48 PM
Feb 2017

He knows he (and Flynn and others in his administration as well) colluded with Russia and is just using weasel words because he's afraid the CIA will truly out him and just wants to claim "memory issues". In reality, it's treachery and greed issues that are the YOOGE, YOOGEST EVER, problem.

doc03

(35,325 posts)
27. I have noticed myself Trump and the others are using those two phrases
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:50 PM
Feb 2017

lately, "to the best of my knowledge" and "I don't recall." They were used a lot back in the Watergate hearings and
Iran Contra.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
35. An the "I was given that information" he used when confronted on his lie
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:38 PM
Feb 2017

about his electoral victory, claiming it was bigger than it actually was. Much about is speech is weasley. Just like him.

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
39. Trump needs to fly onto an aircraft carrier deck and then Tweety
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:28 PM
Feb 2017

will put on his best knee pads and glorify Dump just like he did Dumbya.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
40. Yup he's giving himself some wiggle room. Trump knows that he is fucked....THEY KNOW.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:30 PM
Feb 2017

And so the takedown begins in earnest.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
42. More weasel: "I don't have loans in Russia"
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:38 PM
Feb 2017

He may have loans from Russia.

Or Russian oligarchs may have loaned him money offshore outside of Russia.

Release the tax returns.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
46. we need a new law:
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:52 PM
Feb 2017

all people seeking public office or serving in public office are automatically under oath whenever they speak in public or in any official capacity.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
48. It's the same language used
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:37 AM
Feb 2017

by the Watergate conspirators. How'd that work out?
Trump is a nut who doesn't read and gets his info from cable news. He's very limited, and not a deep thinker, more of a reactionary.
Whatever school granted him a degree owes him a full refund.
Bankrupting casinos and being a cheesy actor on a reality TV show is not the same as being the President of the United States.
Something really bad happened on November 8, 2016. It fells like we've stepped through the looking glass.

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