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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe first casualties of Trump's trade wars are Texas cattle ranchers
Here in the rolling pastures of bright, green spring grass at the edge of the Texas Hill Country, the handful of large spreads prosper from a wet winter. The short-horned Charolais breed, imported from France via Mexico, grow thick and wide, their white coats bright in the sunshine of impending spring. The Charolais makes for some of the finest grass-fed beef in the world. Now that a years-long drought has broken, ranchers can count on trucking in less of that expensive coastal grass they require in the dry months.
But the Texas cattle rancher now faces a new threat: the Trump administration's blundering, blustering trade policy. By threatening a trade war with Mexico within days of inauguration, the president helped trigger a slide in cattle futures. Mexico is a major export market. By sinking the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the new administration cut off long-sought access to the Japanese market. Now banks have raised the conditions for collateral for loans for ranchers.
Texas ranchers, though, will not be alone for long. Beef producers from Nebraska to the Dakotas face the same problems. So do grain farmers in Kansas and the snow-covered corn fields of Iowa, just like tomato farmers in California and Florida and autoworkers in Michigan, longshoremen, truckers and railway workers in Miami and Houston and Long Beach. These will be the first casualties of a trade war.
http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/02/16/first-casualties-trumps-trade-wars-texas-cattle-ranchers
BSdetect
(8,995 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)...Hillary always preached leaving TPP in place with some mods.
Election is done and Obama is out of office. You wanted the job Don the Con (albeit you stole it), so do your job and take ownership. That's what true leader do - they own it -- that good and the bad.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,164 posts)They have a complete monopoly on RW hate radio in that State. And their mostly Republican voters have already been conditioned to accept any criticism of any Democrat as the Gospel truth. And that goes double for either Hillary or Obama.
They blamed Obama for the recession that BushCo. stoked to life....for years...and probably still do. And even though the Dow Jones and the employment rate both doubled under Obama, they still believe he was a 'disaster' economically. Because one of 'their' politicians or shock jocks told them so.
I think the biggest problem is repeated dis-information, the real 'fake news'. And the very real and successful method of 'the big lie'.
It is rapidly becoming two solitudes where it is traditional MSM, who have created in part the mess by abdicating their journalistic responsibility long ago for the lazy 'he said, she said' false equivalency MO, that are pitted against the alt-right fantasy 'news'.
I can see it only getting worse unfortunately, with more and more Republicans shutting out any station or network that tells them facts they don't want to hear, with encouragement from the POTUS, and tuning in to shows that lie to them to confirm their worst fears.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)cattle ranchers that loose their ranch, or the Iowa corn farmers and silo operators that loose the business, or the auto workers that get laid off because of a lack or parts, or the dock workers laid off because less is going out or coming in. They won't use timelines or logic, look at the 2010 and 2014 midterms, they gave republicans Congress despite republicans doing nothing to help the country recover from the Bush debacle.
Trump is already claiming he inherited a disaster, despite the evidence that he inherited a sound economy and an effective fight against terror. The MSM sits on it's ass and let Trump lie. So, when the shit hits the fan, Trump will blame Obama and the MSM will look for any shred of evidence to support Trump's baseless claims.
Initech
(100,038 posts)The GOP owns Trump, this whole fucking thing is their fault, and we need to make sure everyone running GOP is connected to Trump. We cannot let them keep getting away with this, or 2018 is lost. The time to fight back is now.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)the football league. It was doing okay in the Spring/Summer when it didn't have to compete with the NFL. However, Trump bought into the league and insisted they compete head to head with the NFL. They went along with Trump and the league tanked and quickly went out of business.
riversedge
(70,082 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,135 posts)looks horrible in practice.
JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)Things suck all around. Everyone has to take a hit during this admin - people who voted for him should have to take a hit too.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)Texas exports more to Mexico than any other state in the US.
Texas gets more imports from Mexico than any other country, roughly 33.2 percent of all of its imported goods.
A trade war wouldnt be likely to tip either country into an economic recession. The likelihood of a recession is quite slim for both countries since they have other trading agreements with other countries, and the U.S. economy is quite stable, Gonzalez said. However, a trade war with Mexico could impact U.S. agreements with other countries, as it could create global mistrust.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/local/article/Report-Texas-is-the-biggest-loser-in-Mexico-10915683.php
Thats worth remembering when President Donald Trump threatens a trade war over a border wall, as he did last week. Economically, theres more at stake for Texas than any other state in the country.
Mexico is our most important trading partner by far. In 2015, Texas exported over $92 billion worth of goods to Mexico, which was more than it exported to the next 10 countries combined. Texas imports from Mexico were almost as high, and were twice as high as from China, next on the list.
Perhaps the most impressive number: Texas exports supported over 1 million jobs in 2015, according to government estimates.
Thats almost 50 percent more export jobs than in California. And thats more jobs than in some of Texas major employment sectors, including construction, manufacturing, financial activities and local education.
Mexico is a huge part of the Texas success story, said James Hollifield, a political science professor at Southern Methodist University. The Texas economy stands to be hit hard by Trumps policies.
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2017/01/31/memo-president-trump-mexico-helps-make-texas-economy-first
blogslut
(37,982 posts)And our simpleton Governor, Lt. Governor, Atty General follow along with our ridiculous POTUS while our economy slips further down than it already has.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)I've shared these statistics with many people who simply refuse to accept them. I have managed to crack a few people's Trump veneer with them, though. So, there's that.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)is all that is needed to make a huge difference.
In November 2016, if 1 Trump voter in 100 had voted for Clinton, she not only has a huge popular vote win, but a bigger electoral margin than Trump had.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)I'm encouraged by the few who do listen.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)that they feel the pain first!!!
We need to make sure Obama and the Democrats are not blamed for Trump's picking a fight with Mexico, you know they will!
herding cats
(19,558 posts)I imagine they're pushing back pretty hard by now, but I don't know if Trump will listen.
The Sand Reckoner
(194 posts)to keep the next four years from being a nightmare. Hopefully they will experience enough pain and hardship to sour them to the Republican party forever, but I'm not counting on it. As long as the GOP is anti-black, anti-gay, and anti-immigrant, this ilk is likely to vote that way.
herding cats
(19,558 posts)That's a big one with them, too.
The Sand Reckoner
(194 posts)True that!
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)republicans have no one but themselves to blame
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)collapse of the Farm Economy. Our Grain Grower friends in the MidWest are facing a disaster as we speak. Here is a little factoid,Today's Corn Futures are $3.73 per bushel,now here is what it costs on average to replace that 3.73 bushel,with all the seed,fertilizer,fuel and land rent is north of $3.92per bushel. That number is two years old,so it most likely is some what higher.
As of this past week,two of our Farmer Friends are contemplating doing Auction in order to stave off a probably Bankruptcy. The felling among their Friends and Neighbors,who BTW all voted for Trump,are scared by canceled Mexico Corn Buys as well as the Canceled China Corn,Beans,and Wheat forward purchasing orders last week.
There was a Major Implement Dealer Auction last week in the Midwest,sounds like that sale was a financial bust for any and all used equipment even after extensive advertising and bringing in the so called Guru of Farm Auctions to run this Auction.
Just the tip of the looming Farm Crisis to come this year.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)We just need to make sure they don't blame it all on Obama.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)strategy is showing up in Letters to the Editor and Op Eds in local Papers.
You are going to see the Real SCROTUS at work when this blows up,and watch how he will ditch these folks big time. Reagan did it,Bush did it and of course Nixon never seen a farmer he liked.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)...as the republicans so blatantly suckered the heartland, and now are screwing the heartland.
Why do republicans hate America's farmers?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)they tend to be more Conservative/Religious and easily manipulated by Local Media. Spent decades doing campaigns in Rural Areas. What a interesting dynamic one encounters,if you grew up in a Rural Lifestyle that in its self makes entry in to discussions of Politics much easier.
Show up in a suit,you are either a Politician or Insurance peddler.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)They are going to buy from South America. Lots of cattle in Brazil and Argentina.
Canada just signed a trade treaty with the European Union and is eager to export beef there, and to China.
Lower demand for US beef means lower prices and lower futures prices.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)randr
(12,409 posts)I believe the article said the Mexico is a major importer of corn from the US.
Some of the impact will not be able to be stopped as Trump has already put us on every ones shit list already.
JI7
(89,239 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I guarantee over 90% of them voted for him.
Ever farmer and rancher I know did and I know several.
hatrack
(59,574 posts)Stupid fuckers.
dalton99a
(81,392 posts)Hekate
(90,556 posts)H.L. Mencken was right.
orwell
(7,769 posts)...International trade is a complex dynamic best left to professional politicians, trade economists, political scientists, professional diplomats...you know - competent professionals with experience.
Instead we now determine complex trade policy on bulletin boards, conspiracy sites, political forums, Cable News channels, Facebook and Twitter. The "dumberati" electorate are herded about like sheep braying in the wind, unaware of how they are manipulated by social media algorithms and professional marketing operations.
How else can you explain the rise of an incompetent con-man like Drumpf to the highest office in the land. We have never known a real trade war in our lifetimes. It ain't pretty folks. It is incredibly destabilizing both politically and economically.
We have met the enemy and he is us...
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Better for your health, better for the environment!
irisblue
(32,929 posts)tblue37
(65,227 posts)mvd
(65,160 posts)who doesn't understand the ramifications or know how to compose new trade strategy. Trade war alone is not the solution.
mvd
(65,160 posts)loss of national sovereignty, Wall Street benefit, environmental concerns and corporate world influence. Trump's other policies will cancel out any gain from dropping TPP.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The ones allowed to be out there.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)People get incredibly silly about this
mvd
(65,160 posts)I'll can go over it again, as I saw parts since it took a while, but my concerns won't magically disappear. I disagreed with Obama on quite a few things, so just because he was for it, doesn't mean it is good. I sure do wish he was back in power now though! Anyway I feel like gong back to Trump bashing instead of arguing this over and over.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)You'll see why Obama supported the TPP once that's enacted
mvd
(65,160 posts)I am not a fan of anything about it.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Or Malaysian workers to have a minimum wage? What the hell is the matter with you? How can you possibly be against those things?
mvd
(65,160 posts)That's just personal and wrong. We would lose jobs to those countries! And based on past agreements, no minimum wage is guaranteed. Corporations fly around any requirements. Please do not reply again.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)We would lose jobs to those countries!
Less than we are now without a minimum wage and independent unions.
And based on past agreements, no minimum wage is guaranteed.
OMG. Alternative facts on DU too?
Learn something about how past trade deals have operated before you form an opinion next time.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)To make up for the income shortfall?
MontanaMama
(23,295 posts)You bought and paid for this orange idiot. Somehow you'll figure out a way to blame PBO. Gah!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)apply for and get subsidies. We pay regardless of whether we eat beef or not.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Elections have consequences assholes!!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)be vocal about repealing subsidies for ranchers and farmers. They need to be forced to face the consequences of their voting behavior.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)No welfare for the rich!
CrispyQ
(36,421 posts)Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)If they had used their brains instead of their emotions, their lives would be better along with ours.
Squinch
(50,911 posts)(Point and laugh.)
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Hey all the farmers in the red states
The ones that voted for Trump!
The ones that did what the church told you to do!
The ones that want to send a special "fuck you" to Barack Obama and the rest of the nation but want to take the first few steps towards an America that worked for everybody.
Not only are you going to take a bath thanks to this, but the banks have absolutely no reason to save you, as foreign investors are already looking at your little farm and see the next drugstore with big-box market. You did this to yourself, because you got angry when Obama told the truth; you did not make it all by yourself, you needed the government to protect you from the sort of bankers and profiteers that Trump just made his cabinet picks.
I truly hate to sound vindictive, but this next part I can say as a former Pennsylvania resident. Pennsylvania, you gave 20,000 votes to Trump, which made all the difference, I hope you get hit the hardest. Nothing will go ahead and be a true harvest of your labors that you see the sort of people you supported when you voted for Trump take your land, take your money, then leave you some babbling fool will still find a way to blame Obama.
Enjoy your harvest, Trump voters.
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)Most of them likely voted for him. Bed. Made. Lie.
adigal
(7,581 posts)Screw them. karma
Recursion
(56,582 posts)They also are not happy with a President who seems to alienate Texas's biggest trade partner just for fun.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)I kept hearing that farmers and ranchers along the borders wanted a wall, were killing people trespassing on their land.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Texas ranchers know very well where their workers are coming from and where their cows are going.