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wiggs

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Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:25 PM Feb 2017

Trump: 'Truth is what you can get away with'

Really good speech by Bret Stephans on the political and social dynamics that have allowed Trump to rise. Stephens says that one of the underlying causes is a relatively recent trend Trump has taken to new levels: facts don't matter in political world, and that they may have become indistinguishable from and interchangeable with opinion.

He says the Trump administration is actively trying to substitute news with propaganda. The whole thing is interesting and maybe a bit deflating that so many are willing to go down a path of denying facts and denying their own principles. He lays out several reasons, mental pathways, why he thinks this is happening.

http://time.com/4675860/donald-trump-fake-news-attacks/?mc_cid=4c20cfe453&mc_eid=8f0db6cad6

In his 1953 masterpiece, “The Captive Mind,” the Polish poet and dissident Czeslaw Milosz analyzed the psychological and intellectual pathways through which some of his former colleagues in Poland’s post-war Communist regime allowed themselves to be converted into ardent Stalinists. In none of the cases that Milosz analyzed was coercion the main reason for the conversion.

They wanted to believe. They were willing to adapt. They thought they could do more good from the inside. They convinced themselves that their former principles didn’t fit with the march of history, or that to hold fast to one’s beliefs was a sign of priggishness and pig-headedness. They felt that to reject the new order of things was to relegate themselves to irrelevance and oblivion. They mocked their former friends who refused to join the new order as morally vain reactionaries. They convinced themselves that, brutal and capricious as Stalinism might be, it couldn’t possibly be worse than the exploitative capitalism of the West.

I fear we are witnessing a similar process unfold among many conservative intellectuals on the right. It has been stunning to watch a movement that once believed in the benefits of free trade and free enterprise merrily give itself over to a champion of protectionism whose economic instincts recall the corporatism of 1930s Italy or 1950s Argentina. It is no less stunning to watch people who once mocked Obama for being too soft on Russia suddenly discover the virtues of Trump’s “pragmatism” on the subject.

And it is nothing short of amazing to watch the party of onetime moral majoritarians, who spent a decade fulminating about Bill Clinton’s sexual habits, suddenly find complete comfort with the idea that character and temperament are irrelevant qualifications for high office.

The mental pathways by which the new Trumpian conservatives have made their peace with their new political master aren’t so different from Milosz’s former colleagues.
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Trump: 'Truth is what you can get away with' (Original Post) wiggs Feb 2017 OP
History, or rather what is taught as history, also aids in promoting a right wing capitalist agenda. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #1

guillaumeb

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1. History, or rather what is taught as history, also aids in promoting a right wing capitalist agenda.
Mon Feb 20, 2017, 10:39 PM
Feb 2017

US history textbooks are slanted/dumbed down, choose your preferred term, to indoctrinate children into what the proper approach to US history is.

It is not necessary for people to all literally change, it is only necessary to control what they are taught (and what is accepted by the sources of news and information) as being the truth. Control the information, control what is seen as acceptable information, and you control the outcome.

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