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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:19 AM Feb 2017

Revised Poll: Do the Trump voters who will lose their health insurance deserve to die because of

the policies they voted for?

They voted to repeal Obamacare, a law that many of them rely on. Now they will lose it, and the treatment for many ailments, including cancer, will not be covered. Many Trump supporters will die.

Do they deserve it?


15 votes, 2 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Yes. They should've thought about that and educated themselves before they voted. Idiots.
4 (27%)
No. Absolutely not.
11 (73%)
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Revised Poll: Do the Trump voters who will lose their health insurance deserve to die because of (Original Post) Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 OP
He said he was going to repeal their healthcare. They said YAY. They deserve to get what they want bravenak Feb 2017 #1
Of course apparently many of them thought the ACA and Obamacare were two different things Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #2
They should have LOOKED IT UP bravenak Feb 2017 #4
yup maybe next time the surviving dumbasses will gopiscrap Feb 2017 #17
they think being black or brown justifies death JI7 Feb 2017 #22
Does it justify death Afromania Feb 2017 #25
Stupidity is a terminal illness. milestogo Feb 2017 #3
They do RoadhogRidesAgain Feb 2017 #5
No one deserves to die because of their political views chef_cb5 Feb 2017 #6
Great RoadhogRidesAgain Feb 2017 #7
Wishing death upon people is cool in 90's Rap Music, but chef_cb5 Feb 2017 #8
Taking the moral high ground isn't the same thing as appeasement. meadowlander Feb 2017 #14
Lol no RoadhogRidesAgain Feb 2017 #16
Except the vast majority of them won't die. meadowlander Feb 2017 #24
you know Afromania Feb 2017 #27
thank you gopiscrap Feb 2017 #18
That's what we've been doing Bettie Feb 2017 #43
They should be shamed and shunned, but they don't deserve to die. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2017 #9
+++++++++ uppityperson Feb 2017 #12
should be gopiscrap Feb 2017 #19
That's sinking to their swamp level. torius Feb 2017 #10
How could even the dumbest trump voter chef_cb5 Feb 2017 #13
welcome to DU gopiscrap Feb 2017 #20
No Alice11111 Feb 2017 #11
Not a question of "deserving" but I'd reserve my sympathy OnDoutside Feb 2017 #15
they think all black and brown people deserve to die JI7 Feb 2017 #21
exactly Afromania Feb 2017 #29
we are not the ones calling for their health care to be taken away. JI7 Feb 2017 #23
No get the red out Feb 2017 #26
Perhaps instead of going to drumpf rallies and repeatedly chanting "lock her up" democratisphere Feb 2017 #28
Jesus Christ. ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #30
Lmao.. JHan Feb 2017 #31
A better question would be do they deserve more care, compassion and consideration... etherealtruth Feb 2017 #32
That's exactly what they believed and were hoping for. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #39
Like the woman who cheered on the repeal of Obamacare because she had the awesome ACA. JTFrog Feb 2017 #49
Probably not, but meh nt geek tragedy Feb 2017 #33
They will be in the same boat as the rest of us. NCTraveler Feb 2017 #34
They can't vote if they're dead. ileus Feb 2017 #35
... truebluegreen Feb 2017 #36
One more chance greymattermom Feb 2017 #37
That's pretty much what they wanted for millions of SammyWinstonJack Feb 2017 #38
What people deserve, and what I want to happen to them, are two different things. dawg Feb 2017 #40
Being a Deplorable means not knowing what you don't know Mr. Ected Feb 2017 #41
All life is precious. Yet people make life and death decisions all the time. jmg257 Feb 2017 #42
Deserved or not Bettie Feb 2017 #44
I believe if their CHILDREN died, they'd reconsider their vote. But ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #45
don't ask the Hillary voter who is also dying La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2017 #46
Dopey question. It's not a matter of "deserve." It's a matter of elections Squinch Feb 2017 #47
They don't deserve to die but they do deserve scorn for choosing ignorance and bigotry instead. LonePirate Feb 2017 #48
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
2. Of course apparently many of them thought the ACA and Obamacare were two different things
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:21 AM
Feb 2017

Does their ignorance justify death?

Afromania

(2,767 posts)
25. Does it justify death
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:38 AM
Feb 2017

no. But it does justify having all sorts of hell layered on you for being so fucking stupid. The fact that they are the same thing was not hidden from anybody. There was no secret language and hidden documents that kept this from these people. The information is everywhere and they choose, that is CHOOSE, to use none of it. Nothing except the drivel constantly spoon fed to them by Fox "News" and Co.

How exactly are the people that understood what was at stake and voted appropriately supposed to take this? They are going to the same death as these ridiculous voters. Do the people that took the time to understand the situation(all 10 minutes it takes to Google it and read the wiki page) deserve death because the willfully, and unapologetically, ignorant failed to do so? Should these same people then pat them on the head and say it's ok you killed me because you couldn't remove your head from your ass for 10 minutes anytime in the last year and a half? It would have left you with 788,930 of them to keep smelling your own shit.

If they were seriously willing to share in the burden of getting things on course again, today, not tomorrow, or sometime in the future after we turn the other cheek, a--fucking-gain, they would be completely ready to suffer the ignominy of what they've done. They aren't and we can't, because we've done nothing wrong here. Nobody we voted for was proposing to do something that would kill them. We're right, have been right, and will continue to be right. Now we need to cut this bullshit and marshal our own fucking forces so that we don't need the uninformed, or the gullible, or the stupid, or the fickle down right stomp down evil voters.

 

RoadhogRidesAgain

(165 posts)
5. They do
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:31 AM
Feb 2017

If people are too stubborn to understand fire is hot, then some people need to burn in order to learn their lesson, especially when they have the power to influence the quality of healthcare for other people.

 

chef_cb5

(12 posts)
6. No one deserves to die because of their political views
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:33 AM
Feb 2017

in America, 2017. We need more peace and understanding. Going Forward with Love.

 

RoadhogRidesAgain

(165 posts)
7. Great
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 01:38 AM
Feb 2017

Another appeaser. This behavior is why republicans keep walking all over us, because this pacifist mentality.

Republicans are traitors, they vote out of spite, fellow Americans my ass.

 

chef_cb5

(12 posts)
8. Wishing death upon people is cool in 90's Rap Music, but
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:15 AM
Feb 2017

our political environment is not East Coast vs. West Coast gangster rap.

Ours is real life.

In 2018, the democrats have a lot up for grabs in the midterm elections. They can have a mandate from the American people who are against the president.

In the meantime, make phone calls to your congressional representatives or donate to your favorite candidates or volunteer your time to your communities.
All of this will do sooo much to move America forward. Much more than wishing death upon our political enemies.

meadowlander

(4,358 posts)
14. Taking the moral high ground isn't the same thing as appeasement.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:21 AM
Feb 2017

Hopefully at least some of these people will wake the fuck up when the consequences of their voting catch up to them personally and when they do, we need their votes.

That's a better outcome than them dropping dead.

My uncle voted for Trump. I bet most DUers have family members that voted for Trump. Wishing them dead doesn't solve anything. It's the easy way out.

The actual work that we need to do is to educate and communicate so that people better understand the facts and the consequences of their choices. And you don't start that work by saying "I hope you drop dead. You deserve it, you moron."

 

RoadhogRidesAgain

(165 posts)
16. Lol no
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:47 AM
Feb 2017

Nobody will ever understand there are consequences for their actions if they always have appeasers taking the "high ground" ready to bail them out.

It's a vicious cycle, we always bail these people out by fixing the country for them then after 8 years they forget all about it and elect a worse rethug president than the last one because they want to piss us off.

Time to stop extending the olive branch and start extending the finger. To hell with these people.

They hate us. They want to destroy us.

If they die, they die

meadowlander

(4,358 posts)
24. Except the vast majority of them won't die.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:13 AM
Feb 2017

And they'll keep voting Republican because liberals are "mean" and "rude" and "don't care about middle/rural/working class America".

And they'll raise their kids to vote for Republicans and we'll have more generations of political gridlock.

We're in this mess because we spent the last 8 years not taking the tea party seriously and assuming they would just go away if we ignored them. They didn't.

They aren't an enemy, they are a cancer. And you don't beat cancer by giving it the finger or ignoring it. Treating cancer by locating it, understanding it and attacking it where it lives is not "appeasement" and it is not "bailing people out".

Afromania

(2,767 posts)
27. you know
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:47 AM
Feb 2017

with all this hand wringing about them raising Republicans. What about them hating us so much? Where is the hand wring about the "Liberal" hate they are always spewing? Why no mention of that? What you imply and all of the other "give them a chance' types is that they are voting this way because of something we did? What in Gods name have we ever done to them that constitutes voting for people that hate them as much as they hate us?

Seriously, what have we done to them that gives reason to vote for people want to deny rights to the gay community? Keep the black, brown and poor from voting? Clean air, clean water. A hand in just a hand in getting from point A to point B? What are they doing it for? and why do they hate us so much for not doing it? We don't claim to be their enemy but they sure as hell believe us to be theirs.

Bettie

(15,997 posts)
43. That's what we've been doing
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:29 AM
Feb 2017

and it has not worked out for us.

Unfortunately, with people who are filled with hate for nearly everyone, being kind and understanding will not work.

They do not understand compassion, to them it equals weakness.

In previous elections where we've lost, I could at least accept that the other side had a skewed (wrong) view of the best interest of everyone, but had overall basically human intentions. This time, I don't see that, Orange Man-Child and his many supporters just want destruction. Of everything that makes the US a society.

No understanding, no peace. No appeasement.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,704 posts)
9. They should be shamed and shunned, but they don't deserve to die.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:17 AM
Feb 2017

Being a Deplorable is not a capital offense.

torius

(1,652 posts)
10. That's sinking to their swamp level.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 02:29 AM
Feb 2017

They want us to die. They wanted people in Oroville to drown. Ironically, turns out those were Trump-won areas.
They think only liberals have Obamacare, because what they have is the ACA. I would not be sad if someone dosed their reservoirs with birth control so they would die out. But die, no.

 

chef_cb5

(12 posts)
13. How could even the dumbest trump voter
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:03 AM
Feb 2017

think that when they had to go to healthcare.gov to sign up for health insurance that they weren't signing up for that big thing called "Obamacare"?
The ACA came and millions of Americans signed up for health insurance when they had none before.

Barack Obama helped many people have access to a basic human right.
You get sick, we take care of you.
Being a woman isn't a preexisting condition.
We need to preserve the right of women's choices.

Don't like it? Pay a fine and thousands when you do get sick and need care.

I had a HealthCare.gov plan and enjoyed it. One year ago I had to quit my job at a Starbucks to take a job at a cafe. After that I had the benefit of health insurance. No more ACA for me. It really helped with having coverage after 26.

OnDoutside

(19,906 posts)
15. Not a question of "deserving" but I'd reserve my sympathy
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:24 AM
Feb 2017

For those who voted against Trump and will lose their health insurance.

Afromania

(2,767 posts)
29. exactly
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:59 AM
Feb 2017

They believe it so much they ignore the fact that white people are 75% of the population. There is no fancy math involved with understanding that most of the people utilizing these services they hate so much are going to be mostly white. That's the really funny thing to me. They hate us so much they are voting against their own neighbors, and in many cases against themselves. I can't speak for the ones that aren't doing that, but they are worse than the ones voting out of sheer hate. They aren't even voting with the conviction of unadulterated hate. They are just fickle windblown stands of grass .

get the red out

(13,458 posts)
26. No
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:45 AM
Feb 2017

"Let 'em die" is a conservative meme, and wrong IMO. If the Rs choose to let them die, well I didn't vote for that, so it is on the people who did vote for it.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
28. Perhaps instead of going to drumpf rallies and repeatedly chanting "lock her up"
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 06:50 AM
Feb 2017

they should have understood that "repeal and replace" meant they could possibly die.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
32. A better question would be do they deserve more care, compassion and consideration...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 07:23 AM
Feb 2017

... than the people they believed they were voting to take "things" like healthcare away from?

When you actually listen to the 45 voters that will lose health insurance ... they often believe they should be able to keep their benefits and the others that they appear to believe are less deserving should not (read PoC, immigrants, etc).

No one should die ... however, no one should receive more care, compassion and consideration than anyone else.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
49. Like the woman who cheered on the repeal of Obamacare because she had the awesome ACA.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 10:55 AM
Feb 2017

She literally wanted Obama supporters to lose their healthcare while she kept hers. Then lost it when she found out that it was her healthcare on the line.

But I'm not supposed to call her or think of her as deplorable.



greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
37. One more chance
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 08:40 AM
Feb 2017

This is what voting Republican did to you: You get no health care and you will die.
Do you still want to vote Republican? All that will do is make Trump and his Russian maffia friends richer.
If yes, well sign on this line that you want to die.
Ok, no health care for you.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
38. That's pretty much what they wanted for millions of
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 08:51 AM
Feb 2017

others that they didn't approve of, right? So really, I just don't care.

I do care about those who will die as a result of their vile votes. Definitely unintended consequences for them, I'm sure.

dawg

(10,608 posts)
40. What people deserve, and what I want to happen to them, are two different things.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:13 AM
Feb 2017

Lots of people deserve to reap what they sow, and to be judged by the same rule with which they judge others. Part of being a liberal means loving them anyway, and hoping they are spared that fate.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
41. Being a Deplorable means not knowing what you don't know
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:21 AM
Feb 2017

While simultaneously believing that you know it all.

I know bankers and lawyers and doctors who are well-educated and nevertheless are Trump fanatics.

It's not stupidity. It's willful ignorance.

They would punish each and every one of us based on this ignorance, without realizing that they, too, will suffer the consequences.

Hell no, they don't deserve to die. They deserve a boot firmly implanted up their asses. They die, we die. We're all in the class of victims in this scenario.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
42. All life is precious. Yet people make life and death decisions all the time.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:21 AM
Feb 2017

They were told they would have coverage, via 'repeal and replace'.

And - right or wrong, they made decisions based on those promises.

Who are we to decide whether they deserve to die, or not?


“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.”

Gandalf the Grey, JRR Tolkien

Bettie

(15,997 posts)
44. Deserved or not
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:32 AM
Feb 2017

they are literally getting what they demanded.

They demanded an end to "Obamacare".

Also, the vast majority of them only care about their own personal health care. They cheer when others die; it only becomes a problem when it is them.

So, do they deserve to die? No.

Will I have sympathy for people who actively chose this outcome? No.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
45. I believe if their CHILDREN died, they'd reconsider their vote. But ...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:40 AM
Feb 2017

... if the voter himself/herself died, then he/she wouldn't really care any more.

Few things are sadder than a child-sized casket.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
46. don't ask the Hillary voter who is also dying
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 09:47 AM
Feb 2017

To stop thinking of her own death to sympathize with his.

No one deserves to die, but there are many
Of us who are or will suffer from trumps policies and are being asked to offer sympathy to those who voted for the man who clearly told us what he was going to do once in office. That's expecting far too much for victims of the trump administration and those who made this happen.

Trump did not lie about getting rid of aca, Muslim ban, refugee ban etc.

Squinch

(50,773 posts)
47. Dopey question. It's not a matter of "deserve." It's a matter of elections
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 10:17 AM
Feb 2017

having consequences.

We fought with all our might not to have this happen to them. They laughed in our faces as we did so and then they voted FOR this to happen to them.

Not a lot we can do about it now.

We're busy trying to save our own lives, ruined by them.

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