Paul Ryan really needs some feedback from us on an Obamacare tweet he sent...

[riversedge]

I think it would be great idea to reply to him. If you have a twitter account. He needs to hear from us. Thanks


Paul Ryan Verified account?@PRyan 18h18 hours ago

Freedom is the ability to buy what you want to fit what you need. Obamacare is Washington telling you what to buy regardless of your needs.

Link to tweet

Replies*********


Charles Gaba ✡️Verified account?@charles_gaba 9h9 hours ago

@PRyan “buy what you want to fit your needs??” The ENTIRE POINT of health insurance is that you DON’T KNOW what your needs are going to be.
26 replies 424 retweets 1,741 likes




☪️ Charles Gaba ✡️Verified account?@charles_gaba 9h9 hours ago

Technically speaking, no one “needs” insurance *right up until the moment they get sick or injured*. That’s the entire point of having it.
5 replies 175 retweets 943 likes





☪️ Charles Gaba ✡️Verified account?@charles_gaba 9h9 hours ago

At the moment, I don’t “need” chemotherapy or expensive prescription medications…but some day soon I *might*. This isn’t rocket science.
3 replies 132 retweets 739 likes




☪️ Charles Gaba ✡️Verified account?@charles_gaba 9h9 hours ago

If you left it up to people to “only buy what they need” re. health insurance, most would probably choose crappy mini-meds like this:

Link to tweet

20 replies 184 retweets 551 likes


☪️ Charles Gaba ✡️Verified account?@charles_gaba 9h9 hours ago

…so you end up with most people being severely underinsured, then not having any meaningful coverage at all when they actually need it.


****Lots more***

[LAS14]

1. Done. Twice. Thanks for the heads up. nt

[riversedge]

22. You are welcome.

[Freethinker65]

2. Anyone mention him using social security provider benefits for his education?

Yep. Social security acted like insurance that was there for him as a child when he needed it.

[TBA]

3. Please... Someone who tweets

Go tell him to give up his free health insurance and go out and buy what he and his family "needs" on the open market. And then tell someone making a median income how much it cost.

[Scarsdale]

21. Bought and paid for.

Smarmy creep need to be reminded that "freedom" means voting for reps. who KNOW how their constituents really feel about such things as health care. He refuses to answer phone calls, or attend town halls. Cowardly. Once Wis. gets rid of gerrymandered districts, he might be out of his cushy job, like his buddy Eric Cantor.

[Cosmocat]

4. Am I "Free" to get what you get?

No.

Are you free to go fuck yourself?

Yes.

[flamingdem]

5. this

[rickford66]

6. We need Universal/Public Option Medical Insurance, but make it voluntary.

Oh, you say people will only buy it when they need it then ? Well, after the initial completely sign up period, if you turn it down , you have to wait three years before being eligible again. If you turn it down again, you wait another three years. That gives everyone freedom to either buy into it or throw the dice. The GOP will never allow real universal coverage.

[Wounded Bear]

9. Nice libertarian offering there....

the problem, of course, is that 3 year waiting period. I suppose people should just suffer and die if they get sick then, right? Problem with that is that when they get sick, they will use services such as emergency rooms for treatment and bill the rest of us for the 'coverage' that they get for free.

Everybody needs to buy into the pool, or it doesn't work. Insurance is like that.

[rickford66]

11. FYI I am not a Libertarian

I was just suggesting something different that some GOPs could possibly agree to. Hopefully most people would come to their senses and sign up. Of course everyone has to participate or it doesn't work. That's the fact that has to be driven into the right wing brains.

[Wounded Bear]

13. OK, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt...

but offering things the Repubs would agree to is what got us here. Obamacare IS a Repub plan, basically devised by the Heritage Foundation and passed in Massachusetts by a Repub Gov. We managed to shoehorn in some progressive features, but the mandate was always at the core of the plan from the start. Without it, you cannot finance it.

Frankly, I'm not worried too much about offering alternatives right now. The Repubs are getting raked over the coals right now and I'm not in to giving them any easy outs.

It's nice that people are finally waking up to the real Repub agenda. I hope it isn't too late.

[rickford66]

16. Dear friends of ours, liberal at heart, but vote Republican at lunch one day.

I asked Frank, why do you vote Republican? You're pretty normal other wise. He said in a serious tone, "I don't want my money going to someone else." Ya gotta overcome that type of thinking.

[logosoco]

7. I sent two tweets in reply to this.

I have been on Twitter a while now but just the past month or so really started using it. I am not even sure if any of my tweets are seen, but it feels really good to send them out there.

[Glimmer of Hope]

8. I find it a bit gratifying too. I have one follower. Ha!

[TexasBushwhacker]

18. I sent some replies too

One was "Freedom is knowing you can get your heart disease diagnosed and treated so you don't die in your 50s."

[Cryptoad]

10. Funny , u never hear them talk abt,,,,

how people who buy only what they need end up costing the Health Care providers way more than those that do have insurance , and this cost is passed on to all that do have insurance in the form of higher premiums.

[elmac]

12. I just replied

and it wasn't nice like before but real baaaaaaad.

[riversedge]

24. I lkie Nasty!!

[videohead5]

14. Junk Insurance

That's what they are going to propose.look we got you insurance that's cheaper and will not cover a pimple.

[riversedge]

23. Yes, they are pushing it.

[Stonepounder]

15. I was healthy as a horse.

I had my annual checkups as required by my employer. Blood Pressure in the really healthy range, low cholesterol numbers, and so on. Aside from being a couple of pounds overweight everything was hunky-dory. Right up to the night I passed out in the garage, had an ambulance ride to the hospital and had open heart surgery less than 36 hours after I arrived.

Total cost: ~$125,000. Luckily I a) believed in insurance, b) had access to a great insurance plan from my company, and c) could afford it. Total out of pocket: $350. However, as I said I could afford the insurance. My insurance cost about $6K/yr (including the HSA of $3500 which covered the entire deductibles for the year). How do you afford $125K without insurance or $6K/yr without a damn good job?

Why is the US the only industrialized country in the world that doesn't include basic health care to all?

[phylny]

30. Very poignant story, and so glad you're here! n/t

[Deb]

17. Obamacare lets the Dr tell me what I need.

Washington wants to keep me from the Dr.

Sorry, I don't tweet

[nolabear]

19. As a wise half human once said,

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or one."

Logical.

[defacto7]

20. How can anyone be...

as devoid of the realities real live non-wealthy human beings deal with where health and survival is concerned? Someone needs to blast the foundation out from under that crystal tower he lives in.

[riversedge]

25. Ryan has lived off the gov dime all his life. In fact, his

father died while he was young (? age). His mom got SS and Ryan went to college on it. would not wish a father dying on a young boy. But, fact is, he and his mom had a social net in place for a long time. Now he seems to have forgotten that fact.

[Miles Archer]

28. He's FULLY aware, he just doesn't care

He sold his soul to Ayn Rand.

He embraced her "the suffering are best left to die" ethic (even though the realities of her death are that she died in the cradle of the "safety net" she so despised).

[uponit7771]

26. Paul Ryan is officially Benedict Donald level fuckin stupid.

[Else You Are Mad]

27. Just because I have the "freedom" to buy insurance...

it doesn't mean I can afford it nor does it mean the insurance company has to offer me insurance if I have preexisting conditions that make me too expensive to insure. For example, I have the freedom to buy a Lamborghini but that doesn't mean I can afford it or afford the insurance for it. I think if we frame it that way, 'freedom loving' conservatives would understand what Ryan is offering.

[phylny]

29. Done n/t

[Cicada]

31. Some insurance is mandatory for good reason

Car insurance is mandatory because otherwise other motorists will have to pay their car repair costs when you crash into them. Someone without medical insurance transfers his medical costs to the rest of us when he gets huge medical bills. So it is fair to require everyone to have medical insurance. In cases where someone can not afford medical insurance it is reasonable to subsidize their premiums.
Freedom is good but sometimes other considerations outweigh it.