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highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 04:45 PM Feb 2017

Bernie Sanders tweets congratulations to Chairman Perez




I congratulate Tom Perez on his election as chairman of the Democratic National Committee and look forward to working with him.



And he adds:




It's imperative Tom understands that the same-old, same-old isn't working and that we must bring in working and young people in a new way.




I'm sure Tom does understand that. He IS a progressive.

And I hope Bernie's statement might shut down some of the idiotic "Draft Bernie for a People's Party" tweets I'm seeing from people who'd guarantee more GOP victories with their nonsense.
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Bernie Sanders tweets congratulations to Chairman Perez (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2017 OP
K & R JHan Feb 2017 #1
Could have done without the preachy second part... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #2
I Concur Me. Feb 2017 #3
I agree, but that's Bernie being Bernie, and I'm sure Tom can handle it. highplainsdem Feb 2017 #4
Yes, I'm sure Tom Perez can handle it, but stuff like that emboldens the dissidents. George II Feb 2017 #50
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #5
I see that as more of a realistic move to promote unity Tom Rinaldo Feb 2017 #6
You don't lecture the new DNC Chairman as as "move to promote unity". George II Feb 2017 #43
eh, it wouldn't have felt sincere without that part, Bernie gonna Bernie nt geek tragedy Feb 2017 #8
The question is, why does "Bernie gonna be Bernie"? George II Feb 2017 #44
That's exactly what makes me crazy about him nini Feb 2017 #19
I agree with you metroins Feb 2017 #27
As I said.. The Winner Tom Perez doesn't need Cha Feb 2017 #23
Because isolation from alternative views works so well for the DNC? aikoaiko Feb 2017 #29
Tom Perez, a Latino, Civil Rights Attorney Does Not need any empty Cha Feb 2017 #30
We all need lectures, Cha. We lost to Trump. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #32
Nope.. not from him Cha Feb 2017 #34
Good luck with that. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #35
I could use a lot more of it. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #28
Me too. LisaM Feb 2017 #38
Amen. He wouldn't be bernie if he's not being a nudge and a scold. nt Kahuna7 Feb 2017 #52
Good grief, Bernie. That wasn't necessary. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #7
And I Think It Was Necessary ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #14
Why? What purpose did it serve? NurseJackie Feb 2017 #15
NOPE.. it was decidedly Unnecessary. Cha Feb 2017 #25
YEP! It was decidedly necessary ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #45
See.. you're putting words in our mouths.. no one is claiming Cha Feb 2017 #46
This has nothing to do with what he actually said. Kentonio Feb 2017 #53
Tom Perez and Keith Ellison are quite able to forge ahead on Cha Feb 2017 #55
We're a party of millions of people each with a voice Kentonio Feb 2017 #57
I'm with you, GAC. Buddyblazon Feb 2017 #47
I pretty much stayed out of the chairman fight threads once Dean dropped out Warpy Feb 2017 #9
I listened to some of the speechifying after the vote... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #36
Glad he didn't wait eight weeks. joshcryer Feb 2017 #10
. BainsBane Feb 2017 #18
... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #22
I thought about that part, too... Wounded Bear Feb 2017 #37
*dead* Thread winner! grossproffit Feb 2017 #39
He understands it, the guy is a longtime worker rights lawyer. nt Blue_true Feb 2017 #11
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #12
Yay, Tom Perez Won and the Winner.. guess what? Cha Feb 2017 #13
It was a cheap shot, and he owes Perez an apology. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #16
What's Cha Feb 2017 #20
Best to ignore it BainsBane Feb 2017 #21
Bernie is the same old same old. Classy as usual. nt LexVegas Feb 2017 #17
Bernie, what do you mean "we"? George II Feb 2017 #24
Yeah, Tom Perez is only a Civil Rights Lawyer and worked as Cha Feb 2017 #26
What's imperative here ... NanceGreggs Feb 2017 #31
As an invited member of Democratic leadership he is in the best position to lecture. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #33
Leading isn't lecturing. George II Feb 2017 #42
Perhaps to those who refuse to listen. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #49
He wasn't appointed Public Scold but I think Perez can handle bernie issues. delisen Feb 2017 #51
You're so right that he wasn't appointed Public Scold. aikoaiko Feb 2017 #54
To paraphrase a Vietnam war general-In order to save the party we had to destroy it. nt delisen Feb 2017 #58
Same-old, same-old, isn't working. azmom Feb 2017 #40
I stand with Bernie! MelissaB Feb 2017 #41
Why not say, like me Tom understands... Justice Feb 2017 #48
Exactly.. you hit on it. Cha Feb 2017 #56

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. I Concur
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 04:52 PM
Feb 2017

His job is to focus on the Senate and what can be done there...Perez and Ellison will take the DNC in hand

highplainsdem

(49,041 posts)
4. I agree, but that's Bernie being Bernie, and I'm sure Tom can handle it.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 04:55 PM
Feb 2017

At least Bernie did congratulate him, which was very important given all the stupid separatist talk I've been reading from some of his supporters, with their Ellison-or-else posts.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
6. I see that as more of a realistic move to promote unity
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 05:01 PM
Feb 2017

Like it or not we do have some internal divisions as a Party, if not in leadership than certainly at the grass roots level - and often along generational lines. Here Bernie is throwing his own credibility behind Perez by expressing his support of the new Chair and his desire to cooperate with him. And he is retaining that credibility with those who might have reservations about supporting Perez, after Keith lost, by reiterating something that is important to that constituency in his followup tweet. There is always some politics inside a political process. In this case it's all good.

nini

(16,672 posts)
19. That's exactly what makes me crazy about him
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 08:09 PM
Feb 2017

I really want to embrace Bernie more but that kind of stuff is not helping.

We're not going to agree on every issue in this big party, but we certainly are all on the same side and need to do the best we can under the situation we face now. Public chastising our leaders is NOT productive.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
27. I agree with you
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 08:25 PM
Feb 2017

I'm trying to embrace Bernie supporters more but that kind of stuff doesn't help.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. Good grief, Bernie. That wasn't necessary.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 05:06 PM
Feb 2017

Why does he want to behave like that? Why couldn't he be a gentleman about it? In three minutes flat, he went from being gracious to being a scolding nanny... insulting Perez's intelligence.

Things like that really don't help. Personally, I believe when he says things like that, it does more harm than good. It creates (or reinforces) the wrongheaded belief that Perez is unqualified and incompetent, or that he doesn't deserve the position.

If anyone else were to be saying such things, people would see it as creating doubts and stumbling blocks so that Perez will fail. But I know Bernie wouldn't intentionally do such a thing, so I have to wonder why it is he'd want to go down that road of negativity.

Weird.

#NoFilters

ProfessorGAC

(65,191 posts)
14. And I Think It Was Necessary
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:36 PM
Feb 2017

So there we are. Is the primary over or not. There's one enemy, and nobody here is among them

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Why? What purpose did it serve?
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 07:46 PM
Feb 2017
So there we are. Is the primary over or not.
Ask Bernie, after his backhanded tweet today, I'd be very interested in hearing his views on that subject.

There's one enemy, and nobody here is among them
Define "here".

14. And I Think It Was Necessary
Why was it necessary for him to scold and finger-wag and insult? What good comes from that? Why treat Perez like he's clueless or undeserving? Why treat Perez like he's the "enemy"?

ProfessorGAC

(65,191 posts)
45. YEP! It was decidedly necessary
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:24 AM
Feb 2017

See how easy this is? If you like Jackie see scolding there, I can't help and convincing is pointless
If you are determined to see insult where none exists, we are doomed because disunity already has had consequences
It is an accurate statement because targeting the top and ignoring the real ground game (state assemblies, House, Senate) has not worked out for anyone but the R's
I want DNC leadership to be reminded every damned day that they better be trying different ideas
BTW: I'm good with Perez, but he's not a messiah

Cha

(297,686 posts)
46. See.. you're putting words in our mouths.. no one is claiming
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:32 AM
Feb 2017

Tom is a messiah.

But he doesn't need any lectures from BS.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
53. This has nothing to do with what he actually said.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:36 AM
Feb 2017

It's purely your own reaction to Bernie. Those same tweets could have come from someone you actually liked and you'd have nodded along and gone 'yeah that's fair'. But no, because it's Bernie suddenly it's some big insult.

Cha

(297,686 posts)
55. Tom Perez and Keith Ellison are quite able to forge ahead on
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:43 AM
Feb 2017

their own. Brilliant caring leaders.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
57. We're a party of millions of people each with a voice
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:50 AM
Feb 2017

No-one, however good or caring gets a free pass to do whatever they want in a leadership position. Perez is there to represent as well as lead, and that means representing both sides of the party. I don't see any problem with the losing side reminding him of that.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
47. I'm with you, GAC.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:09 AM
Feb 2017

100% necessary. Not only was Bernie correct...folks need to be reminded repeatedly that "same old" is what lost this election. They'll forget in a matter of
weeks if not reminded constantly what happened.

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
9. I pretty much stayed out of the chairman fight threads once Dean dropped out
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 05:33 PM
Feb 2017

I knew Perez and Ellison were both good. I just hope they're smart enough to drop the DLC's losing strategy of spending money only in safe races. This is not the way to expand. It's the way to lose.

I also hope he manages to shift the emphasis away from business as usual, but that will be a harder sell since the cash flow is still positive at the top. When it isn't, we'll see.

Wounded Bear

(58,713 posts)
36. I listened to some of the speechifying after the vote...
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 08:57 PM
Feb 2017

they made all the right statements about localizing and getting out into the rural areas.

I think someone asked about the money, too. There have been some talk about spending unwisely on consultants and such.

We'll see. It's easy to chatter on in a room where everybody is all kumbaya. Let's see when the rubber meets the road.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Cha

(297,686 posts)
13. Yay, Tom Perez Won and the Winner.. guess what?
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 06:33 PM
Feb 2017

He doesn't need any damn lectures.

WINNER Tom Perez!!!!

Cha

(297,686 posts)
26. Yeah, Tom Perez is only a Civil Rights Lawyer and worked as
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 08:22 PM
Feb 2017

the Sec of Labor under President Obama.

I think BS needs to understand that.

NanceGreggs

(27,818 posts)
31. What's imperative here ...
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 08:32 PM
Feb 2017

... is that Bernie understand that as a self-declared NON-member of the Party, he is in no position to lecture Democrats about anything.

If Bernie wants to lecture about something, maybe the topic should be how the "same old, same old" rhetoric from an outsider is as tiresome as it is inappropriate.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
33. As an invited member of Democratic leadership he is in the best position to lecture.
Sat Feb 25, 2017, 08:40 PM
Feb 2017

It's is his reason for being in Democratic leadership.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
49. Perhaps to those who refuse to listen.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 09:50 AM
Feb 2017

Fortunately, there are many in the party who are waking up and are now listening.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
54. You're so right that he wasn't appointed Public Scold.
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 10:38 AM
Feb 2017

His job is to help keep the 45% of Democratic primary participants involved with the party.

Justice

(7,188 posts)
48. Why not say, like me Tom understands...
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 09:13 AM
Feb 2017

Why act like you are communicating only by twitter? Has Bernie never spoken with Tom?

Turns me off

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