Rachel - dropping the bomb tonight..

[pkdu]

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Money-laundering...THATS why ...follow the money.

e.g. Wilbur Ross , just confirmed , was Vice chair of Bank of Cyprus...who?...what do they do?...OMG I think the lid is coming off.

[Jane Austin]

1. It's very interesting and

really reckless of the republicans to confirm Ross.

She sourced some of it through David Remnik's article in the latest New Yorker.

The Bank of Cyprus is famous for laundering money for Russian oligarchs.

It's one of Rachel's great first segments where she explains everything.

[DK504]

31. It's reckless for any of these psychos to have been confirmed.

This admin is so deep in the shit, it will explode (hopefully) in their faces and bring down EVERY single Congressional critter.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

113. I vote for this! +++

That would be the best possible scenario!!!

[Achilleaze]

73. + 1,000

republicans have no morals, ethics or loyalty to America - as they keep demonstrating.

[lagomorph777]

88. The Reputin party is marching over the cliff.

Assuming we can still vote in 2018, it will be a massive wave.

[Norbert9]

2. I think she and Eichenwald get the Pulitzers after he's impeached.

[Blue_playwright]

81. My thoughts exactly...

I think if anyone can do the investigative reporting and deep research needed for the take-down, it's Maddow.

[Alice11111]

92. ,,,but it's mostly the chior thats listening.

I wish she were mandatory for fox news watchers. They really believe DTs shit. Plus, fox takes things out of context, only reports half the facts and only part of the stories...tornadoes, shootings, leaks are Obama's fault (but they report it like it is true).

[C_U_L8R]

3. It's getting juicy

[ButSeeYa]

4. It's like we're living in a spy novel.

How is it that Rachel often has these in-depth reports? Is no one else doing their jobs?

[Jane Austin]

6. Not with the depth

Rachel goes into.

[Hortensis]

75. She's a late-night show with an elite audience. :)

Generally speaking, daytime cable puts up low-cost, low-information, low-ethics talking heads to keep those addicted to political chat generally satisfied with whatever the producers believe they want to hear. Yes, there are points of some exception, but look at whole shows and whole daily programmings.

[uponit7771]

10. No, the rest of them are too worried about being called fat or ugly or being left out of pressers

[nolabels]

64. Or not having a job anymore

Most people are not independently wealthy but many of those that are wealthy will turn on a dime if things look too spooky and this is just because of conditioned response of how they got there.

[pnwmom]

11. She's got the PhD. History, I believe. nt

[murielm99]

40. Doctorate in political science,

from Oxford no less!

[csziggy]

42. She earned a Doctor of Philosophy (DPhil) in politics at the University of Oxford

Maddow earned a degree in public policy at Stanford in 1994.[20] At graduation, she was awarded the John Gardner Fellowship.[21] She was also the recipient of a Rhodes Scholarship and began her postgraduate study in 1995 at Lincoln College, Oxford. This made her the first openly gay or lesbian American to win an international Rhodes Scholarship.[22] In 2001, she earned a Doctor of Philosophy (DPhil) in politics at the University of Oxford.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Maddow#Early_life_and_education

[kstewart33]

70. Her dissertation is considered the model for Oxford dissers.

She is brilliant and brilliantly interesting. Last night's show was a huge eye opener into just as deep and widespread illegal activities are among the people who are connected to Trump.

No one vetted the Commerce Secretary. If they had, this huge can of worms would have been opened, if just a bit.

[csziggy]

77. She is completely brilliant!

She left out the part about the Trump casino being assessed a $10 million penalty for money laundering. But that is probably another of Trump's debts that will never be paid.

Trump Taj Mahal casino settles U.S. money laundering claims
Wed Feb 11, 2015
By Jonathan Stempel

Feb 11 The parent of Trump Taj Mahal, one of Atlantic City, New Jersey's struggling casinos, has settled U.S. government charges that it violated federal laws designed to thwart money laundering, court filings show.

Trump Taj Mahal Associates LLC agreed to the assessment of a $10 million civil penalty by the Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, according to a proposed consent order filed on Tuesday with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Wilmington, Delaware.

The penalty will take the form of a general unsecured claim in Trump Taj Mahal's bankruptcy.

In exchange, Trump Taj Mahal admitted to have willfully violated reporting and record-keeping requirements under the federal Bank Secrecy Act from 2010 to 2012.
http://www.reuters.com/article/trump-ent-trumptajmahal-moneylaundering-idUSL1N0VL2L120150211

Of course, there is only so many facts that can be fit into an hour long show. If Trump's shady business dealings were all documented and explained it would probably take a year or more of twenty four hour a day programming to cover it.

[Justice]

87. The penalty will take the form of a general unsecured claim in Trump Taj Mahal's bankruptcy.

That means the government probably got pennies. So lots of money laundering, no real accountability.

[babylonsister]

14. It is like a novel, and I can't look away. She must have

a crackerjack staff. Who wouldn't want to work for her?!

And welcome to DU!

[2naSalit]

60. If I could stand to live in a big city...

I would have applied years ago. I truly admire her from an academic perspective, as a political science advanced degree holder myself. She's really well informed and able to piece together complex issues all while retaining the perspective of the legal connections to events. She does it well and I also like that she is willing to explain why a "thing" matters/is important in our lives to educate her audience, many of whom lack knowledge of civics, or don't get the multiple layers of policy. I think she gets stifled by the network at times, I'm sure she has to pick her battles carefully.

I am glad that she is on top of this story, it matter to the whole world and she knows it... could turn out to be her finest current events reporting.

[ButSeeYa]

62. Thank you!

[LeftInTX]

15. Rhodes Scholar - She's smart

[pangaia]

19. You mean she's a foreigner?

[LeftInTX]

21. No

You gotta be smart to be selected a Rhodes Scholar.
You get to study abroad at Oxford for a year.

[pangaia]

25. Sorry, guess I left out the sarcasm thingy

I actually had a Fulbright.

[LeftInTX]

28. Aww!!!!!

My sister was a Rhodes Scholar. I think she applied for a Fulbright.

Me....I was on the UW-Oshkosh (also known as UW-Zero) Dean's list...whooppee!!!

[pangaia]

29. By gosh !

[UCmeNdc]

66. No one else is doing there jobs. They are all looking away to not see the facts.

[jodymarie aimee]

107. Dictionary?

we are supposed to be the smart ones here.

[denbot]

111. A dearth of journalists perhaps?

Welcome to DU.

[ButSeeYa]

117. Thank you!

[dalton99a]

5. Makes perfect sense.

[Adrahil]

7. It's jaw-dropping stuff! NT

[SummerSnow]

8. This is a good segment. Connecting the dots to Trump and Putin

[Ccarmona]

9. Watching and Wondering

If she can connect the dots in 40 minutes, what's holding up....Congress, FBI, Justice, the Democrats, Repubs, etc, from doing the same?

[mnmoderatedem]

43. republicans

but I get the feeling you already knew that

[mucifer]

56. Greed Power Evil

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Here's graph of connections & excellent in-depth article about Ross & Bank of Cyprus, et. al.

.

Wilbur Ross Comes to D.C. With an Unexamined History of Russian Connections

Trump’s Choice for Commerce Secretary Holds a Top Post With a Mysterious, Russian-Controlled Cyprus Bank

https://www.dcreport.org/wilbur-ross-comes-to-d-c-with-a-long-and-profitable-history-of-russian-connections/?preview_id=944

(diagram not from article)

[pkdu]

20. This needs its own OP please? nt

[Gabi Hayes]

27. this could keep anyone interested tied up for the rest of your life, I'd guess

https://www.bing.com/search?q=trump+russia+wilbur+ross+deutsche+bank&FORM=HDRSC1

https://www.google.com/#q=+trump%2Brussia%2Bwilbur%2Bross%2Bdeutsche%2Bbank+&*

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. Own thread and another resource

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028708862

https://wearethisamericancarnage.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/the-matryoshka/

[Gabi Hayes]

24. Trump, into it for mega millions to Deutsche Bank, sells the mansion he bought

in FLA from some crooked creep for 40 mil, sells it to a russian oligarch for a hundred million after two years. neither ever lived there, and it's being torn down.

the guy was involved in a 4.5 billion dollar divorce settlement, and was hoovering up properties like this (and the Ari Onassis island for 150 mil), and the most expensive apartment in NYC (88 mil, for his 22 year old daughter), all to keep it out of the hands of his wife....it just goes on

the oligarch was tied to deutsche bank, who was fined by the US==630 mil over a 10 BILLION russian money laundering scheme, leading to the exit of the head of DB, who ended up at the bank in Cyprus, whose first or second biggest stockholder/investor is none other than....Wilbur Ross!

not making this up.....all off the top of my head from listening to the show

absolutely mind boggling stuff

this circles back to why Manafort is a major player, and why his little blackmail contretemps last summer led to his leaving the campaign

that complicated web posted above needs to be explained in words, and god knows how many text pages it would take. where's that diagram come from?

don't think I've ever seen anything like this before!

[Gabi Hayes]

37. check this out.....who knows how accurate, but some of this was repeated by Rachel:

my favorite section:

The Bank of Cyprus is just one of more than 100 direct and indirect investments that Ross listed on his U.S. Office of Government Ethics financial disclosure form last month. [2] He recently promised to resign as Vice Chairman of the Bank and disinvest from it within the next 90 days if his nomination is approved.[3]

Mere divestiture will not suffice here, even if it was immediate. Exiting a brothel in a hurry doesn’t explain what you were doing there in the first place.

https://www.dcreport.org/wilbur-ross-comes-to-d-c-with-a-long-and-profitable-history-of-russian-connections/?preview_id=944

Rachel must've seen this....or Remnick, cause this is very similar to what she discussed tonight, with much more detail, and lots of sourcing, which can be verified/disputed.

well worth a read

[madamesilverspurs]

33. Can you source the graph, please? Most interesting,

to the right, Comey -- deeper info?


.

[Achilleaze]

74. Yes - this does warrant its own OP

[Hortensis]

79. "So this is the fundamental question:

How did a prospective U.S. Commerce Secretary come to play a lead role in what turns out to be one of the world’s leading haven banks for laundering Russian money, precisely at a time when the U.S. Government and the EU have been trying so hard to enforce economic sanctions against Russia and Putin’s wealthy allies?"

I'll say!. Thanks, Bernardo.

[neohippie]

86. I would like to see Kushner and his connections added

Seems to leave out Jared Kushner's connections to Russia and Israel money

[Amaryllis]

13. Russia connections are a prerequisite for a cabinet post.

[Alice11111]

95. Maybe Putin's picking them

I would have thought that to be the stupidist of conspiracy theories a few years ago, but we know he forgave millions, or perhaps billions of Trump's loans. Maybe the forgiveness was a contingency. DT would rationalize.it as being good for the country or obamas fault.

[Amaryllis]

106. Finding I am entertaining many things I would have thought conspiracy theories a few years ago.

[Gabi Hayes]

16. remnick (sp?) talking about buyer's remorse in russia over trump winning...

they didn't really expect him to win....they were setting up a long game to destabilize the projected HRC presidency....as they've been doing all over the world>>>just like they're doing in France, and did in the Netherlands (causing a hand count of ballots in some sort of upcoming referendum, IIRC), and apparently turning the vote in Sweden against doing some sort of NATO deal.

this was all in the story tonight, and those who've compared this to a complicated spy novel couldn't be more spot on.

makes Le Carre look like a simple, Venus Paradise tale spinner

If you don't know Alan Furst, check out his stuff for some dense, richly detailed accounts of Russo/European political intrigue, spanning the time period of WWI through WWII, concentrating largely on the interregnum:

start here.....
http://www.alanfurst.net/Book/night-soldiers

from his site:

“America’s preeminent spy novelist”

—The New York Times

Alan Furst is widely recognized as the master of the historical spy novel. He is the bestselling author of Night Soldiers, Dark Star, The Polish Officer, The World at Night, Red Gold, Kingdom of Shadows, Blood of Victory, Dark Voyage, The Foreign Correspondent, Mission to Paris, Midnight in Europe, and A Hero of France.

but I digress>>>>if you have cable, you MUST see the rerun later, or go to the website and watch the show, which deals up until the last two minutes on this blockbuster story

[octoberlib]

17. Remnick also told her that Russia is having buyer's remorse concerning Trump

They think he's too unstable.

[dhill926]

18. repubs won't do anything about this....

so what's next?

[cstanleytech]

23. While I doubt they would impeach Trump I have to say that this is not evidence or atleast nothing

that any reasonable judge would not throw out of court in a heartbeat if a prosecutor did not have evidence to back it up.
Dont get me wrong, I want Trump out of office as I think that he is mentally unfit to be President but wild claims without evidence will not accomplish this.

[KT2000]

54. not just tRump

as someone said on Lawrence O"Donnell- we need to make sure the people surrounding him are not tied up with Russia - advisors and cabinet. This is a matter of national security. This is a tangled web that needs to be investigated quickly and anyone with intimate ties to Russia needs to be thrown out. These people have access to classified info that could be shared with Russia which is a threat to American lives.

[cstanleytech]

57. Thats true but on the other hand we need to be careful about not turning this into a

modern day McCarthy style witch hunt either.

[KT2000]

61. that is what Nunes said today

but this is not the same thing. Some Cabinet members and some advisors have close ties to Russia, combined with the interference of Russia in this election and the suspicion that tRump is hiding his connections to Russia are enough to investigate - our government.

[nolabels]

65. Even if do make some kind of FAKE attempt to investigate..........

things will just get dragged into ad nauseam. We will probably have to wait for some caving of the economy and with no saber-rattle-lin conflicts going on before any real force will be applied

[Hortensis]

85. All the forces included are huge, ours included.

If nobody seems to be trying to move an 80-ton boulder off a road, maybe it's because they're waiting for equipment big enough to arrive, or for dynamite.

Time is a huge factor in itself in almost everything. Every parent gets to explain to their little ones after mixing the cake batter that now it has to spend time in the over, and then out to cool, before they can have some.

[Alice11111]

96. FAKE is right. Listen to these guys. They are fighting legit

investigations, like they would fight a war. The only investigations that will be done are those completely controlled by the people with a vested outcome. There are so many of them to get rid of, before things could proceed fairly. You know it is a strange day when i agee with Lindsey Graham on anyrhing.
Turtleman, Chaffetz, Sessions, Comey, almost ALL of the Republicans in the Senate or congress . They may not all be involved in the russian stuff, but they are aggressively going to protect trump and the Repub agenda.

[nolabels]

109. I wonder how many times it takes for the average Joe or Jane to find out...........

they have been lied to and used before they start to wise up. I know it isn't alway wasn't gospel when some our of our last presidents were in office but here with this new guy, he is on like a whole other planet. In my fifty-eight years have only met a couple of habitual liars that I can remember off hand, but this DT guy, he eats their lunch. The dude lies just to be lying for no particular purpose other than to prove he is a liar

[Alice11111]

112. New category of liars. Condescending. Agenda is why he

gets away with it. Only half of the US is as stupid as DT and the Repubs.
Stupid, uninformed, proud to be ignorant. In many cases, they know he's lying, and they want him to get away w it because they have the same agenda.

[TrollBuster9090]

22. I'm actually starting to worry about Rachel's safety. I hope she'd got bodyguards.

Because reporters who expose Putin's corruptions tend to end up dead. And it's probably even easier for Putin to hire and ARM hitmen in America than it is in Russia.

[cstanleytech]

26. Unless she has evidence of money laundering rather than a suspicion of it I doubt she is anymore

danger than usual and if she had such evidence I suspect she would have published it already.

[cilla4progress]

30. She has circumstantial evidence

At least.

[cstanleytech]

59. Very circumstantial at that as all she has is one rich guy knowing other rich guys which isnt

a shocking thing to find but hopefully the varies intelligence agencies will of course check into it though to make sure.

[kstewart33]

71. TB, last night, watching the segment, I was thinking the exact same thing.

Perhaps I'm paranoid, but the thought crossed my mind.

[TrollBuster9090]

118. After watching Putin have his critics murdered in every city from Moscow to LONDON...

why should New York be any different? This isn't paranoia at all.

Ironically, up until now the west has seemed to have a 'gentleman's agreement' with Putin when it comes to assassinating his political critics. For some twisted reason, the agreement seems to be: "we won't make a fuss about you killing your critics on our soil, as long as they're RUSSIAN critics." So far, he hasn't ventured out of that agreement, but there's a first time for everything. (I mean, heck...the old agreement with Putin used to be: "we won't make a fuss if you only f@#k with the elections in countries that used to be part of the Soviet Union." But he seems to have stepped over that line pretty dramatically.)

[Botany]

32. I learned from Rachel tonight

That Putin and company used Deutsche Bank to launder their money ...

not on Rachel tonight

and after no other bank would loan Trump money what bank
loaned him money? Deutsche Bank.

[Gabi Hayes]

35. how in HELL did the dems let this slimeball Ross glide through without so much

as a fare thee well?

they must've had access to the info Rachel put out there tonight.....

what's the deal?

are they tied in somehow, as well, and can't dig into this miasma because enough of their own hands are too dirty to withstand scrutiny?

wouldn't surprise me. hope that's not the case.

just imagine the firestorm that would've been created if one tiny fraction of this concatenation of circumstantial evidence had been thrown at Hillary

[Demsrule86]

83. The Democrats have no power to stop anyone.

So please why not ask...how could the Republicans nominate such a person...that makes more sense.

[femmocrat]

94. Why did 20 dems plus King vote for him?

Makes me crazy.

[Alice11111]

97. She or Obama would be burned alive...still may be

He's blaming everything from his fucked up yemen strongman show to the leaks, on obama, when trump wasnt even around to plan or watch Yemen

The leaks are Obamas fault focuses the story of course, not on the illegal acts underlying the leaks, but on the Rebubs irrational HATE of Obama. Then, they think it is all just Obama fake news and refuse to listen. Therefore, these people aren't listening to RM, other that a few smart ones who want to get the info and circumvent it to take RM down or her stories.

[drm604]

34. I missed her show.

Anyone know if there's video online yet?

[femmedem]

44. Here it is.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/new-commerce-secretary-at-nexus-of-lucrative-trump-russian-deal-886220355575

[drm604]

58. I'm watching the midnight rerun of her show now.

But thank you for the link anyway. I'll need to watch it several times to absorb it all.

[Alice11111]

98. Me 2, but im going to try to watch the recorded version

Sometimes its great and others not as much. Mondays are usually the best. She works all weekend for those big ones.

[lordsummerisle]

36. k&r n/t

[colsohlibgal]

38. Threads All Over

It would seem there are just too many leaks in the Chitolini Dam. He is going down, the only question is how soon. Of course that would lead to right wing religious wingnut Pence.

Millennials need to show up at the polls in 2018 as well as 2020.

[Alice11111]

100. Pence is awful, but not as certifiable crazy, not as agressive,&

easier to beat. DT is going to have us in WWIII b4 the end of a year. If he can't pick it w Mexico or Iran, hell go for someone stronger. Of course, he wants the weakest to bully and claim his might.

[Kimchijeon]

41. I guess I will record it and watch it later, missed it

ty for the heads up

[Grammy23]

45. There are almost too many pieces of the puzzle to keep track.

It is dizzying to try to put it all together and there are so many people seriously trying to make a coherent story. Thank goodness for serious journalists and our intel and security people digging and hunting for the connections in this saga. The books that will be written after this is over will probably be staggering.

When (not if) tRump goes down, many others will go with him. I just hope it happens soon before tRump and the despicable Republicans and/or spineless Democrats do more damage. Democrats who do not go after this attack on our government are part of the problem. There is no excuse for them not going after this full throttle. Enough of the evidence has been shown, leaked and revealed to know we were invaded and manipulated by the Russians and tRump was a big part of their strategy.

[triron]

49. I feel similarly

[kentuck]

46. This was posted on DU a few days ago...some good links

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028690063#post13

[meadowlander]

47. Is there some way to prosecute money laundering and/or election tampering through the ICC/UN

or some other global organisation?

[Sebasdad22]

48. Slime on Slime

The Trump Presidency.

[triron]

50. kick for visibility

[Danascot]

51. It's up on You Tube

[anneboleyn]

52. Excellent -- I am really looking forward to this!

[Danascot]

55. That is the first 20 minutes. Here's the whole hour.

More fascinating parts of the story.

[Kimchijeon]

53. It's on now as a repeat so am watching

seems like she's laying out the deets.

[DeminPennswoods]

63. DCReport broke the story

DCReport is a new news/info website established by David Cay Johnson. Here's the link their story about Ross: https://www.dcreport.org/2017/02/25/another-cabinet-pick-with-secret-ties-to-putin-and-oligarchs/

[DFW]

67. Cyprus has been the Russian Cayman Islands for a long time

A colleague of mine from southern Germany once told me he had a Russian call him up wanting to make some six figure purchase. The Russian gave as a reference a bank on Cyprus. He called the bank asking if they knew the Russian, and they laughed. Yes, they knew him, and his credit was impeccable. You see, he OWNED the bank.

[Mike Nelson]

68. Yet...

...I see nothing about this story on the news this morning... Is this where Joe & Mika store their money?

[Vinca]

69. I hope Rachel has a bodyguard. She's getting dangerously close to exposing the whole plan.

[Alice11111]

101. Odddly, she& Flynn. Russians want to keep him quiet

RM would have already been taken out in Russia. Hopefully, NBC offers protection. Evidently, kelly got it after she took on trump, but it was mainly from crazy trumpsters. Those people don't watch RM, but i think people like Bannon and the Russians probably do.

[Achilleaze]

72. k & r

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

76. Fox news quotes their prime time hosts as if gospel but

Msnbc fails on a regular basis to bring up anything from Rachel or Lawrence's show the morning after?

[annabanana]

78. This show (Monday 2-27-17) is a MUST WATCH.

There are ins and outs here not even hinted at during primetime network TV

[INdemo]

80. Well thre were 20 Democrats that voted for Ross to be confirmed

so the Corporatists are sticking together on this one

[Demsrule86]

84. You know I am getting pretty sick of those that refuse to undersand

Dems have no power and can do nothing.

[JudyM]

89. They can vote for or against.

[Demsrule86]

90. And it matters not which one they do in most votes.

[JudyM]

91. Party line voting won't carry the day, but it makes a statement.

[oldcynic]

115. It matters a lot

Next time one of the Dems voting for Ross comes up for reelection they would never get my vote. First thought would be, why did they collaborate with fascists? Dems can show the flag and unity if nothing else and stop behaving like Vichy govt. Go along to get along? Bah humbug!

[Demsrule86]

82. This is going to be huge and it shows how deeply Trump is embedded with the Russians.

[They_Live]

93. K & R

Amazing that my congresscritte(R)s don't seem to care about anything. Complicit.

[gopiscrap]

99. saw a tape of some of that

she was really good last night...it's hard to keep up I am nine hours ahead right now

[triron]

102. knr

[triron]

103. knr

[triron]

104. knr

[democratisphere]

105. Rachel's bloodhounds are hot on the Russian trail of drumpf and co..

[red dog 1]

108. K&R

[44fan4life]

110. Rachel is the only thing keeping me sane!

Been watching her for years now. If you want the truth, she's the one to watch!

[ProudProgressiveNow]

114. K&R nt

[triron]

116. knr