Student loan debt relief, we aren't talking about it anymore.

[redwitch]

And I guess we won't be in the foreseeable future what with the giant wall, Pentagon budget, tax cuts and the coming war in Syria. At least I think it will be Syria.

[TexasProgresive]

1. Did anyone think that the pukes care about destroying young lives

with enormous debt? Issues like immigration reform, student loan relief, health care for all and anything that actually helps the general populace are not even on the back burner but have been dumped into the trash bin.

[former9thward]

16. Student debt did not happen in the last few weeks.

What has anyone doing about it? It has been a severe problem for decades.

[nikibatts]

2. We do not need to "talk" about it. We need our Dems in the House and Senate to "do" something

about it. I think they will try. Budget reconciliation and other means of sticking an amendment in legislation and bargaining for votes etc. I trust our side to know and do what is right on the matter of student debt.

[Demsrule86]

4. Your Dems are in the minority and will be able to do nothing...elections have conseqences...

so please let's not blame Dems...but those who didn't support them during the election.

[NBachers]

12. "those who didn't support them during the election" helped spawn this atrocity we're living in.

[Demsrule86]

26. Yes they did and for some who will face consequences like

increased student debt, they will begin to understand why you have to support Democrats. The Greens and the rest can do nothing but act like spoilers...and nothing is worse than putting Republicans into office...certainly not fake outrage about emails....which as it turns out they all do.

[nikibatts]

31. Where did I blame Dems?

[Demsrule86]

33. Expecting those who are in the minority with the worst numbers ever to 'fix' what happened

in the last election..." We need our Dems in the House and Senate to "do" something"...

[OnDoutside]

5. They don't have the numbers, so you can forget about that until the midterms.

[Demsrule86]

27. I've seen wave elections in midtermns with unpopular presidents...

so I disagree. It is what we must work towards...we especially need to work to take governorships and legislatures who may be vulnerable ahead of the census.

[OnDoutside]

30. No, I said UNTIL the midterms i.e. they can't effect change at least until they re-take the Senate

but more importantly the House.

[Demsrule86]

34. I know I was just being hopeful...we have to keep working...

[OnDoutside]

35. Definitely. No harm to put that pressure on the likes of Toomey and Collins.

[JCinNYC]

6. I swear

Those that are quick to bash dems over lack of action or some purity contest have just a wee slight problem with basic MATH.

We dont control squat. SQUAT. Actually, less than squat.
All we can do is try to gum up the gears a little

It drives me crazy to see people who wonder why dems havent push thru their favorite unicorn and are quick to bash them are the same ones who make sure they are in the minority in the first place by fighting over the purity of someone like..lets say...Manchin

Who gives a bleep about Manchin....if having him there and counting his name in the dem column allows you to set the tone and control the levers of power.

If dems had control of at least one house of congress right now, I guarantee you that millions would be sleeping better at night and the orange one's blubberings would be laughable instead of inflaming the country and the world into ruins.

But let's keep fighting eachother over whos the best progressive, like theres some kind of award prize to win.

[kcr]

14. That and how our government and political system work.

I know. It's Crazy Pills time.

[Demsrule86]

19. It doesn't work that way....the Dems have no power.d

There is nothing nothing they can do except talk about issues and hope for better days...maybe we might get a crumb with the debt ceiling...but unlikely.

[Demsrule86]

3. On election day when Hillary lost...so did doing anything about student debt.

She was the only hope to get anything like that done.

[Hoyt]

7. I'm sure a bunch of students saddled by debt voted for Trump, didn't vote, or went third party.

Our education system is failing us, and it will just get worse.

[redwitch]

8. Yup.

I have to stop banging my head against the wall before I do some serious damage. I cannot imagine voting against myself like that but so many do either by voting for a selfish bastard or not voting at all.

[butdiduvote]

9. Yep. Student debt. Gun control reform. Advancing women's rights. Improving police/minority relations

All put on the back burner thanks to the idiots who couldn't vote for Hillary/downticket Dems because they "just didn't like her," she "didn't earn their vote," etc. The same people will be asking in a few years where their revolution is and why the Dems are doing nothing to advance it.

...because you fucking idiots removed their power to advance the issues you care about. Some revolutionary you are.


It makes my heart sick. I was so looking forward to living in Hillary's kind-hearted world. My anxiety can't take this. It's like I have to find a way to delude myself into thinking the world is different for the next four years to avoid getting physically sick over and over.

[elmac]

10. Guess students and parents need to take to the streets

raise some hell. Study up on the 1960's student revolts, prey that tRump doesn't deploy the nation guard on them.

[Demsrule86]

20. And if they do all that...it is still unlikely student debt will be fixed...

although look for the GOP to try to end student loans...they don't want non-rich people to have access to college.

[delisen]

11. We need a Plan and a Demand. Many people will back. Trump will fall, we need to be ready.

The crisis is our best opportunity but not how the republicans were not ready to change health care. They did political theater for eight years, devised no cogent plant, and when their hour came they had nothing.

[Demsrule86]

22. And then we get Pence...and consider that they did not advance their issues

with Obama president either...oh happy days.

[highplainsdem]

13. How many for whom this was the #1 issue didn't vote for Hillary because they'd wanted Bernie?

Now, I suppose, like the infinitely deluded and self-righteous Susan Sarandon, they can try to delude themselves into thinking Trump's election will lead to a revolution and they'll get their ideal candidate next time...

[Johnny2X2X]

15. They'll reverse it all

Obama took the loans away from private corps to administer. They'll give them back too. And their goal is to eliminate federally subsidized loans all together. In their view, college is only for the ultra rich.

[former9thward]

17. Taking loans from the private sector did not solve anything.

The loans are still there and getting bigger.

[Demsrule86]

23. Not for long...and consider the government makes money on these loans.

[former9thward]

37. Not for long?

Exactly what is going to happen? So the government makes money on loans which take away the ability of graduating students to buy anything which would improve their quality of life. Is the government making money the only thing you consider?

[Demsrule86]

29. As a parent, I can tell you taking the loans from the bank was huge...you truly

don't understand what was happening. First of all, the GOP was redlining districts based on zip code...less wealthy areas got fewer student loans or none at all...even though the loans are guaranteed, they were forcing parents to co-sign loans as well...the interest rates were way higher than today...and you could begin your loan months before school started and still walk into school with no money on the first day...Obama's order was huge for kids. Also, there is this misconception that poor kids can get a free ride for school....not true anymore $6000 limit in Pell grants for all four years. So you fight for scholarship money. We made too much to qualify for much but not enough to put three kids through easily...and of course we used their college fund to put a roof over our head and eat in 2008,2009 and 2010. My kids are bright, they have received scholarships...but still they go to a state school and live at home...I am sure they wanted to go away...but after the losses during the Bush years, we couldn't afford it. Those, who gave the GOP the keys to the car after they ran it into a ditch did a terrible thing...they can't govern. Honestly right now student loans is the least of our problems.

[former9thward]

36. It might be the least of your problems.

It is not the least of problems for graduating students. They are burdened by this debt. The interest rates were higher because the interest rates on everything was higher. As the Fed moved interest rates down to help the economy the rates came down on everything including student loans. You may think it is great that students with the least ability to repay got huge loans, I don't.

[delisen]

18. What is the plan for student debt relief? Be happy to get on board if there is a destination and

an itinerary.

Mostly I am hearing nothing will work because they won't let us.

If you write a viable plan people have something to back.

Student debt relief has to be one of the easier issues to deal with; outrage needs to be channeled to effect change that is positive.

[Demsrule86]

24. Oh please...you write a viable plan that can't be enacted gives

people exactly nothing....same as they had before. That is the truth...channel your outrage into voting this year and in 18 and 20...vote for every person with a D next to their name...now that is channeling you effort into something useful. Until we get a majority and/or a president...probably both... student loans will remain the same...if you are lucky. They could get worse.

[Demsrule86]

25. Elections have consequences and many kids didn't vote for Hillary .

They didn't like her...and student debt is not easy to deal with...get to work electing Democrats...student debt relief like every other progressive piece of legislation is years away now...and that is the truth.

[Bengus81]

21. And...weed legal in all 50 States,and Trump NEVER taking a vacation,Mexico paying for the wall...n/t

[Ilsa]

28. I saw a news report where a city (or state) was offering

A percentage of student debt relief with the purchase of an existing home. Debt reduction enable the buyerrs to qualify for a good home. They have to keep ownership for at least five years. The report was days ago, so I don't remember where.

[briv1016]

32. The only way we're going into Syria is if we back Assad.

Do you really think Putin would would allow Don to back the rebels? Now going back into Iraq "for the oil" is another matter.