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OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 07:10 PM Mar 2017

The Media Just Attacked Bernie For Calling Trump A Liar. His Response Is Epic

Oddly, the Washington Post didn’t question the accuracy of any of Sander’s facts regarding Trump’s adversarial relationship with the truth. Phillips simply felt that it was inappropriate for a sitting Senator to refer to the president in such disrespectful terms. Sanders responds with the perfect questions:

"But how do we deal with a president who makes statements that reverberate around our country and the world that are not based on fact or evidence? What is the appropriate way to respond to that? And if the media and political leaders fail to call lies what they are, are they then guilty of misleading the public?"

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/03/08/media-just-attacked-bernie-calling-trump-liar-response-epic/

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The Media Just Attacked Bernie For Calling Trump A Liar. His Response Is Epic (Original Post) OxQQme Mar 2017 OP
If you don't call it lying, you are complicit... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #1
+1,000!!! Right on! AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #23
long held in common law for centuries that silence implies consent vlyons Mar 2017 #26
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #44
Well done Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #2
Wish we had Bernie Alice11111 Mar 2017 #37
I hear you Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #40
I agree with you too. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #42
Agreed Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #43
Yep bravenak Mar 2017 #3
And responding the Keebler elf comments DK504 Mar 2017 #8
Exactly. He lied about his lies bravenak Mar 2017 #10
For sure.Only Repubs are allowed to amend their lies Alice11111 Mar 2017 #38
Phillips must assume that Trump deserves respect simply because he's the President Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #4
Tell them Bernie! BlueJac Mar 2017 #5
What the Fuck,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2017 #6
Not all... paleotn Mar 2017 #11
Also, he's the III. I wouldn't want to slight the liar. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #39
Wow. I looked up her original post. logosoco Mar 2017 #7
The standard no-win situation gratuitous Mar 2017 #9
Dissent will soon be illegal, literally. GOP is passing laws NOW making it so. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #52
Thank you Senator Sanders KewlKat Mar 2017 #12
I am so glad we have someone like Bernie ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #13
If the media doesn't call out his lies FORCEFULLY TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #14
we all know 45 is a bdamomma Mar 2017 #34
Bernie Sanders is a Statesman not a politician FakeNoose Mar 2017 #49
No argument here. n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #53
Where was the media when Congressman Joe Wilson called President Obama a liar at Obama's address to zwyziec Mar 2017 #15
There is no media in this country elmac Mar 2017 #16
Hooray for Bernie! Plucketeer Mar 2017 #17
You mean senators aren't allowed to say, "You lie!" to a white president? nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #18
!! Exactly. Excellent point. That moment was disgusting. anneboleyn Mar 2017 #20
I took it that way as well. nt Rex Mar 2017 #36
Miss Amber...who do you think is being protected by not criticizing a liar for his lies? Tikki Mar 2017 #19
Good for Bernie gopiscrap Mar 2017 #21
RESPECT HIS AUTHORITAH!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2017 #22
On point, per usual. Thank you Senator Sanders! demmiblue Mar 2017 #24
Just this one writer pundit editorialist? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #25
Good for Bernie Sanders underthematrix Mar 2017 #27
Trump, through his lying, mendacity, & neglect, disrespects the Presidency more than Sanders does. NBachers Mar 2017 #28
If this is what we get from the Washington Post then they can fuck off. BeckyDem Mar 2017 #29
Love Bernie!! zentrum Mar 2017 #30
Teddy Roosevelt The Wizard Mar 2017 #31
You tell em Senator Sanders! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #32
Keep up the fight Bernie LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #33
Bernie has been bdamomma Mar 2017 #35
Lead us forward, Bernie! We desperately need a leader! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #41
One reporter's opinion is not "the media." Let's stick to the facts. That's what we want them to do. Nitram Mar 2017 #45
Why can't politicians leave the questions out? Perseus Mar 2017 #46
In the article, "the media" appears to be 1 article by 1 opinion writer. Oh, the drama! FSogol Mar 2017 #47
"... inappropriate for a sitting Senator to refer to the president in such disrespectful terms." rock Mar 2017 #48
Yes, Bernie should wait until the STOU and scream "You lie!" from the floor. nikibatts Mar 2017 #50
Bernie rules. ghostsinthemachine Mar 2017 #51
Well, I still Feel the Bern. I'm proud of him for being the ONLY consistent libdem4life Mar 2017 #54

Wounded Bear

(58,677 posts)
1. If you don't call it lying, you are complicit...
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 07:12 PM
Mar 2017

it's a RW axiom that we're for them or against them. I'm against them.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
37. Wish we had Bernie
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:44 AM
Mar 2017

I voted Hillary. We underestimated the irrationality and lunitic ferver of the Hillary Haters. Of course, im sure the Repubs would have disembowelled Bernie too

Both hillary and Bernie have in common that they are/ were willing to call out the truth and lies. Hillary called out Putin, which is one reason she isn't president. Bernie was better at it than Obama. I love him, and I certainly understand if he stays out of it now, but I wish he had put some of this stuff out there when it mattered. My Guess is he thought Hillary would win and take over.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
40. I hear you
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:55 AM
Mar 2017

We took a lot for granted. I know some people think Hillary did enough with her message to the Midwest but I disagree. And she was hardly here campaigning. That put a lot of people off. Young people were pissed at Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem. My son worked hard for Bernie. This was his first election to vote. He loved the honesty and approachable nature of Bernie. It's tough because of the divides in the party right now. We have to work on unity and a clear vision. We also have to work grassroots and generate some excitement.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
42. I agree with you too.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:03 AM
Mar 2017

Not going into Wisconsin, so they wouldn't stir DT up was perhaps the most neophyte decision ever. It was also disrespectful. Sorry the young ones who poured their hearts out weren't heard.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
43. Agreed
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:24 AM
Mar 2017

It was so stupid. Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania were neglected. They assumed too much. My son was excited by Bernie and heartbroken because of the outcome. He predicted Trump winning early on. He was so angry at the DNC. Here in Minnesota, Bernie won the caucus. There is much to learn and much work to do.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
8. And responding the Keebler elf comments
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:17 PM
Mar 2017

aren't a correction. They are a fucking lie. It is fucking perjury. So damn sick of these assholes being able to "amend" their statements. You or I would never be allowed to do that if we were ever on trial.

F these guys.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
38. For sure.Only Repubs are allowed to amend their lies
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:47 AM
Mar 2017

Over and over and over, every time they are caught.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. Phillips must assume that Trump deserves respect simply because he's the President
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 07:49 PM
Mar 2017

Bullshit. Tell that to the pigshits that defamed President Obama each and every day of his presidency.

Trump deserves our scorn. He deserves a prison cell, actually. Calling him a liar is a fact.

paleotn

(17,937 posts)
11. Not all...
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:21 PM
Mar 2017

...remember the love fest after the state of the union address? The shit stain can actually read a few complete sentences, the the bulk of the media thinks he's "presidential". Well, that lasted until the Keebler blow up.

Speaking Jefferson Beuregard "Keebler" Sessions, this is what I'd like to see on the evening news.....

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
7. Wow. I looked up her original post.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:13 PM
Mar 2017

She seems to be saying that maybe tRUMP believes his own lies, so we should too!

She also is saying the Dems. changed the rules and are going to make things harder for the Reps. to pass anything. She has already forgotten that the R's are totally and opening responsible for blocking Obama's SC pick. (Some of us remember the things from past news cycles, perhaps she does not!)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. The standard no-win situation
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:19 PM
Mar 2017
"Oh all you Black Lives Matter people shouldn't be disrupting traffic and marching in the streets and stuff!"

So Colin Kaepernick takes a knee during the pointless playing of the national anthem before a football game.

"Well, don't do that, either!"

"It's inappropriate to be so disrespectful to the president!"

Then what do you suggest? Just letting his patent lies slide by?

{Silence}


There's never a prospective suggestion for acceptable behavior; it's always "Whatever you're doing is wrong!"

zwyziec

(173 posts)
15. Where was the media when Congressman Joe Wilson called President Obama a liar at Obama's address to
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:36 PM
Mar 2017

Congress? Trumps lying needs to be called out each and every time. No disrespect for the office but plenty of disrespect for the troglodyte occupying it and making the lies.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
17. Hooray for Bernie!
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:06 PM
Mar 2017

OF COURSE, he's just a lowly (I)-guy. So where's the Democrats with statements like this? I've been led to believe he's not as good as them. Or is there something I still don't understand?

Tikki

(14,559 posts)
19. Miss Amber...who do you think is being protected by not criticizing a liar for his lies?
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:16 PM
Mar 2017

Your delicate sensibilities?!!!!

The REST OF THE WORLD thinks trump is a horrible person and a liar so
do over half of the voters in the USA.

So what exactly are we protecting with someone like trump?

Tikki

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
22. RESPECT HIS AUTHORITAH!!!!
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:30 PM
Mar 2017

jeeezzzus h kkkrist, what a load of crap.


I'll respect your position if you're worthy of my respect.
That's the way it should be everywhere.

Conversely, anyone who consistently proves they're a lying POS should be treated thusly. No respect just because you put on some frikken uniform. This guy's uniform was made in Russia.

NBachers

(17,130 posts)
28. Trump, through his lying, mendacity, & neglect, disrespects the Presidency more than Sanders does.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:45 PM
Mar 2017

No one has abused the Office of the President more than Trump. And he's just getting started.

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
29. If this is what we get from the Washington Post then they can fuck off.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:55 PM
Mar 2017

Phillips is calling LIES, eye brow raising comments. Using a false equivalent reaching back to when Obama was called a liar is also baseless. If this journalist has such a hard time deciphering the truth then find another job.

Democrats will argue that it's Trump who has torn up all the rules and sent Democrats into resistance overdrive. Since becoming president, he's tweeted several eyebrow-raising claims about widespread voter fraud or potentially earth-shattering wiretapping of his phones. He's refused to provide any evidence to back up those claims, and he and the White House are demanding that Congress investigate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/03/06/the-sorry-state-of-political-discourse-right-now-in-five-bernie-sanders-tweets/?utm_term=.59f5c167580c

Bernie was being polite, Trump is a fucking liar.

The Wizard

(12,546 posts)
31. Teddy Roosevelt
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 10:55 PM
Mar 2017

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

― Theodore Roosevelt

bdamomma

(63,913 posts)
35. Bernie has been
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:38 PM
Mar 2017

calling out the truth for a while. He did call 45 a pathological liar. I agree with Bernie.

Nitram

(22,845 posts)
45. One reporter's opinion is not "the media." Let's stick to the facts. That's what we want them to do.
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:34 AM
Mar 2017
 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
46. Why can't politicians leave the questions out?
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 09:45 AM
Mar 2017

This is what Sanders said:
"And if the media and political leaders fail to call lies what they are, are they then guilty of misleading the public?"

Why not say instead:
"When the media and political leaders fail to call lies what they are, they are guilty of misleading the public, they too are liars."

rock

(13,218 posts)
48. "... inappropriate for a sitting Senator to refer to the president in such disrespectful terms."
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 10:43 AM
Mar 2017

So imagine how distasteful it is for a sitting Senator to have a president that is so disrespected.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
54. Well, I still Feel the Bern. I'm proud of him for being the ONLY consistent
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 03:44 PM
Mar 2017

oppositional force in the Non-Trump-Madness. Impeach the Bastard for all of his Russian friends and prostitutes and pussies-in-waiting to be grabbed. We don't want "your kind".

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