Obamacare repeal must be stopped. Don't be confident that they won't get it through

[flamingdem]

It may be delayed but it will pass unless something happens to stop that. Just saw Michael Steele say as much, he knows his party, they'll vote together or be ostracized. It may take another few months but they'll pass something.

Meanwhile we're all involved with Russia and prayers for the GOP to meet their just rewards. But they may implement ACHA and screw us in the meantime.

Then they'll be after Medicare, and they can pass that too with the congress as it is.

Don't get overconfident, this is in many ways MORE important than the Russia story that may lead to exactly nothing.

The GOP must FAIL at this or we'll have trouble getting back ground. ACA will be forgotten!

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Oh yes, it is gonna pass, for sure.

And yes, they will take Medicare and Soc Sec next.

It will piss me off if anybody is surprised by any of this.

[flamingdem]

4. The rational people out there think this horror cannot pass but the history of GOP insanity

about Obamacare shows they'll do it no matter what.

They may make some changes just to get the votes needed by a handful of the recalcitrant.

In the meantime the Dems are not doing enough, are not messaging enough and are unfortunately all caught up with Russia. That is needed but what we really need to do is make them FAIL at their number one stated goal.

[Eliot Rosewater]

5. People will start dying, becoming homeless, personally I will die from a stress related

heart attack because of all this.

By the time the GOP finds ONE patriot to help stop this, it will be WAY past too late.

[flamingdem]

7. We know this can really happen but we are a small percent compared to the majority

who are on work related health insurance and medicare. Even medicaid will survive in some form but those of us who depend on ACA and are older know we are f**ked.

What people aren't feeling fully right now is that if they push this through we'll be looking at Medicare vouchers

[AJT]

2. Let it go through. It's the only way Trumpsters will

get that the GOP doesn't give a crap about them. The negative repercussions may even usher in a better health care bill.

[flamingdem]

3. No, you are wrong to think that way

We are losing ground that could take decades to recover.

We must make them fail at this effort as a way to set the stage to win in 2012 2020

[AJT]

9. If it doesn't pass then anything that that happens

will be the dems fault because their fabulous health care bill didn't pass. Most Trumpsters won't pay any attention to what is really going until something negative affects them, something 45 is responsible for, Trumpcare.

[flamingdem]

12. They'll explain it away

Meanwhile they'll be turning the USA into a third world country, which is basically the plan

[Eliot Rosewater]

6. No, it will only get worse. You see the needs of the trump voters dont matter.

Koch bros decide who runs and who doesnt run for office. Once they get the numbers, as they did here by stealing elections, having the Russians help them, once they get that power, it is ALL over.

They have been planning and dreaming of this their entire lives.

They HATE social security. They HATE Medicare.

[flamingdem]

8. And they play the long game. The Dems just don't see the degree of danger

and how this needs to be the focus.

A win for Ryan is also a path for his Presidency. Hard to believe but Trump won, right?

[Eliot Rosewater]

10. Trump stole the election, including in the rust belt states.

But that aside, elections wont matter in the future especially if there is ONE person out there threatening the 3rd party game again.

They need to be told and explained to what a two party system is, how in such a system voting 3rd party always helps the other side, always.

[AJT]

11. They hate representative democracy.

[Hoyt]

13. The repeal will pass. Question is whether a decent replacement is enacted. Medicare will be tougher

because people have been paying taxes designated for Medicare.