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I've written several timees about my husband's coworkers. Today they were a regretting their Trump votes or were pretending they hadn't voted for him. The most hotheaded burst in at breaktime yelling that he would "never vote for another fucking Republican again. You don't fuck with my money!" That was before they started paying attention to Comey.
In the hospital waiting room following my hand therapy, I met two rows of silent people with their attention fixed on the hearing. These people all know each other and most of them are Republicans. Not a peep from any of them, and they couldn't seém to make eye contact with those of us they knew to be Democrats.
Both of us stifled the urge to tell all that we had told them so. Let the deceit of the right soak in.
lpbk2713
(42,755 posts)They have four long years to think of how gullible they were. Not
just for voting for Trump but for voting rethuglican in the first place.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)why doesn't he have a REAL tan?
gopiscrap
(23,757 posts)sheshe2
(83,748 posts)It has only just begun.
Hope you are doing well with your therapy Skidmore.
furtheradu
(1,865 posts)I HOPE( ! ) You feel as enCouraged as I do, after today's hearing!
sad & scary as all this is, today is a goood day!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)We can always say "We fucking told you so," to these knuckleheads. For now, let's just validate their feelings of being had, and explain why the Democrats offer (and have offered) something better. "You know how Obama was suppose to take your guns? Never happened, did it? You know how glad you were to have basic medical coverage, even with pre-existing conditions and without lifetime caps on benefits? That was the Affordable Care Act, brought to you by the Democrats."
Should they already know this? Of course. Do they already know this? Maybe, maybe not. Should we enlighten them? Why not? Better information leads to better decisions.
Paladin
(28,254 posts)barbtries
(28,789 posts)that some are waking up to the truth. i'm anxiously awaiting the day even one person here at work, or a family member, admits to me they made a huge mistake. i may die waiting for that day.
others will be drooling over him in person later today. or they are right now or whatever. good thing his job isn't keeping him too brusy to get out on the campaign trail...4 years too soon.
lindysalsagal
(20,679 posts)So it remains to be seen if they want to let me know they've discarded the Don. They might. Sadly, I'll have to be niiiiiiice.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Chemisse
(30,809 posts)It puts them in defensive mode and will delay acceptance of what a really horrible mistake they made.
calimary
(81,220 posts)Any smirking or "is it wrong that I'm smiling?" references will just push them back into cold, locked-down denial. It'd be counter-productive, especially if they're just barely starting to see and grope around in the light. Their eyes will take some time getting used to the light, anyway, after being so deeply in the dark.
REMEMBER: It's mighty hard to admit you were wrong. Particularly when it means you may also have to admit you've been HAD. That's a tough realization to have to face. Especially when you're facing your own face in the mirror. So let them find their way. They might even remember you were a class act around them, which might help render them more favorably predisposed toward you. Zen, and maybe also the Law of Attraction, I think.
I'd want to crow, too. So I'd do it right here!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Hard not to rub it in but...good practice. Basic Liberal Ethics.
montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)That's what I was thinking would be the best way to go about it for now.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)We don't have to hold them to the fire, they are doing it themselves. Give them a way out of the corner they pinned themselves into and they'll be our advocates for life. Try to make them bleed and they may fight reason just for spite.
That excludes the idiots that refuse to see their fault.
Augiedog
(2,545 posts)musicblind
(4,484 posts)This is what Republicans have always done!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)just wear a t-shirt that says "I told you so". Flash it at them every once in awhile.
dalton99a
(81,465 posts)Meanwhile there is no point arguing or reasoning with them
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)Do you really thing this will make us any less smug? This entire presidency is an amalgamated "told ya' lol..." from 65 million people
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)(I mean the "never vote R again part)
Initech
(100,068 posts)And I was but a mere teenager then! And that was before I found out the guy who bullied me in high school voted republican.
liberaltrucker
(9,129 posts)Yeah, I'm old.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)A month into the administration it was replaced with a lawn sign that was about a quarter of the size of the banner.
Last week I noticed the lawn sign was gone, and there was a little Trump bumper sticker on the front door.
I'm guessing next week that'll be replaced with a Trump lapel button on the mailbox.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)No that will screw you too fool
Initech
(100,068 posts)Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! The GOP has done more to fuck with people's money than anybody. But it doesn't matter because, democrats are going to take your guns away!
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)another baby on the way. He's all about money.
Boomerproud
(7,952 posts)Cha
(297,180 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)I wish I could type without so much difficulty to really keep i touch. I haven't figurred out the voice to text feature yet.
Cha
(297,180 posts)Will it get better with time and nurturing ?
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Getting them off the R train is the first step towards gently bringing them closer to our side. Insulting them or gloating will just make them defensive. Shaming them for being stupid can be satisfying but it will make them dig in their heels and they will feel better about throwing us into the camps later so it's not worth it.
They are starting to see that Trump's administration is not here for them. This doubt needs to be given sunlight, water, and nutrients to let it grow organically.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)That was the starting point, followed by the slashing of workers' rights by Branstad. Trump's dropping of the Asian trade deal did not sit well with those who also farm sine it gutted markets for them.
murielm99
(30,736 posts)very, very quiet.
A few of them are beginning to say they did not vote. Ha! THEY made enough noise before the election, running around in their red hats.
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)The RW'ers I work with (I hear them over cubicle walls) re-affirm and rejoice in their Trump votes and are still talking about Hillary and all the other RW conspiracy nonsense going around. And this is in a white-collar environment with salaried folks who are supposed to be smart.