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bigtree

(85,992 posts)
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:32 PM Mar 2017

This is disturbing

Maggie Haberman? @maggieNYT 1m1 minute ago
Tillerson will miss NATO meeting, travel to Russia in April

U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson plans to skip an April 5-6 meeting of NATO foreign ministers for a U.S. visit by the Chinese president and will travel to Russia later in the month, U.S. officials said on Monday, a step allies may see as putting Moscow's concerns ahead of theirs.

Tillerson intends to miss what would be his first meeting in Brussels with the 28 NATO members to attend President Donald Trump's expected April 6-7 talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, four current and former U.S. officials said.

The decisions to skip the NATO meeting and to visit Moscow risked feeding a perception that Trump may be putting U.S. dealings with big powers before those of smaller nations that depend on Washington for their security, said two former U.S. officials...

"It feeds this narrative that somehow the Trump administration is playing footsy with Russia," said one former U.S. official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

"You don’t want to do your early business with the world's great autocrats. You want to start with the great democracies, and NATO is the security instrument of the transatlantic group of great democracies," he added.


read: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tillerson-idUSKBN16S04I?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social
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This is disturbing (Original Post) bigtree Mar 2017 OP
I think Rachel's going to ask Adam Schiff about this after the commercial... Cooley Hurd Mar 2017 #1
this must relate to what Rachel just said mnmoderatedem Mar 2017 #2
It's in your face.. and this with an investigation going on Cha Mar 2017 #3
Gosh, they aren't even trying! nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #4
It disturbed me when I read it a few moments ago, too. herding cats Mar 2017 #5
Probably going to open the Russian WH! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2017 #6
Well at least Haberman isn't obsessed with Hillary's emails anymore like she was still_one Mar 2017 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #8
Trump has re-defined "ethical." As in, removed the word from government's lexicon. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #12
Basically a signal to NATO Johnny2X2X Mar 2017 #9
It says he missing it for a state visit from china yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #15
It can say anything, yeoman6987. Kingofalldems Mar 2017 #16
Their shit is in your face and they do not care. They think Lint Head Mar 2017 #11
Exactly, he boasted about it when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of NYC Rhiannon12866 Mar 2017 #17
Is the whole game about greedy *CASH* or what does PU-TEEN *have* on these dudes?!1 n/t UTUSN Mar 2017 #13
"playing footsy with russia"?? honey, we're way past that and close to making babies. unblock Mar 2017 #14
Trump's downfall is his delusional narcissism Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #18
So far, his delusional narcissism seems to be working for him. Beartracks Mar 2017 #23
It's happening right now Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #24
No, you're absolutely right. Beartracks Mar 2017 #29
there isn't a single thing or person in or associated with this administration that is NOT! NRaleighLiberal Mar 2017 #19
This is a provocation to sanity grantcart Mar 2017 #20
I would like to know if there are any R's waiting in the wings ... SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2017 #22
Maybe the Trump gang feels the noose tightening,... LudwigPastorius Mar 2017 #21
This is really strange. Vinca Mar 2017 #25
everything is disturbing about this so-called administration spanone Mar 2017 #26
Tillerson has to represent U.S. branch operations at Kremlin Inc.'s executive review meeting dalton99a Mar 2017 #27
But there's no connection between Trump and Russia, they tell us! Initech Mar 2017 #28

mnmoderatedem

(3,727 posts)
2. this must relate to what Rachel just said
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:34 PM
Mar 2017

claimed to have breaking news regarding Trump vis a vis NATO and Russia

Cha

(297,180 posts)
3. It's in your face.. and this with an investigation going on
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:35 PM
Mar 2017

for Russian meddling in a US election.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
5. It disturbed me when I read it a few moments ago, too.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:35 PM
Mar 2017

They don't even care about the optics. I've never never seen anything like this before.

still_one

(92,183 posts)
7. Well at least Haberman isn't obsessed with Hillary's emails anymore like she was
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:39 PM
Mar 2017

every chance she had before the election to slam Hillary

Too bad she wasn't as critical toward trump before the election


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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #10)

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
9. Basically a signal to NATO
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:44 PM
Mar 2017

The US is now with Russia. He could have visited Russia any other time, or he could have missed the NATO meeting for any other reason. He is missing it to visit Russia to basically signal the end of US support for NATO.

This is a massive story.

Kingofalldems

(38,453 posts)
16. It can say anything, yeoman6987.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:23 PM
Mar 2017

We all know what the real reason is, Trump has sold us out to Russia.

Rhiannon12866

(205,251 posts)
17. Exactly, he boasted about it when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of NYC
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:15 PM
Mar 2017

Is that next on his agenda??

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
18. Trump's downfall is his delusional narcissism
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:45 PM
Mar 2017

He can't stop until stopped. He needs to be stopped, like straightjacket stopped.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
23. So far, his delusional narcissism seems to be working for him.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:26 AM
Mar 2017

When will this downfall finally happen?

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Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
24. It's happening right now
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:13 AM
Mar 2017

Only two months into his presidency, he's a lame duck under investigation for collusion (treason). His paranoia is only exceeded by that of rational American people fearful ofvhis actions and mental instability. His popularity is at 37%, the lowest of any historically. All his supporters have now is "what's wrong with Russian collusion?". There's a great campaign slogan. "We're with Russia, the former USSR."

Am I missing something? I know it can't happen quickly enough, but there's no precedent in US history where a president has become so politically toxic so early.



Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
29. No, you're absolutely right.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 07:02 PM
Mar 2017

When I heard downfall, I was thinking actual resignation or impeachment.

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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
20. This is a provocation to sanity
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:15 AM
Mar 2017

I would like to hear what Senator McCain has to say about this.

This is a big FU to the "Security Wing" of the Republican Party.

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
21. Maybe the Trump gang feels the noose tightening,...
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 12:21 AM
Mar 2017

and he's there to negotiate their status in their new homeland, after they steal as much as they can in cash and intel and flee the U.S. to evade prosecution.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
25. This is really strange.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:16 AM
Mar 2017

Either there is no one with even a trace amount of common sense in the White House or Pootie is calling the shots.

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