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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsnytimes: All the President's Lies
The ninth week of Donald Trumps presidency began with the F.B.I. director calling him a liar.
The director, the very complicated James Comey, didnt use the L-word in his congressional testimony Monday. Comey serves at the pleasure of the president, after all. But his meaning was clear as could be. Trump has repeatedly accused Barack Obama of wiretapping his phones, and Comey explained there is no information that supports the claim.
Ive previously argued that not every untruth deserves to be branded with the L-word, because it implies intent and somebody can state an untruth without doing so knowingly. George W. Bush didnt lie when he said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and Obama didnt lie when he said people who liked their current health insurance could keep it. They made careless statements that proved false (and they deserved much of the criticism they got).
But the current president of the United States lies. He lies in ways that no American politician ever has before. He has lied about among many other things Obamas birthplace, John F. Kennedys assassination, Sept. 11, the Iraq War, ISIS, NATO, military veterans, Mexican immigrants, Muslim immigrants, anti-Semitic attacks, the unemployment rate, the murder rate, the Electoral College, voter fraud and his groping of women.
The director, the very complicated James Comey, didnt use the L-word in his congressional testimony Monday. Comey serves at the pleasure of the president, after all. But his meaning was clear as could be. Trump has repeatedly accused Barack Obama of wiretapping his phones, and Comey explained there is no information that supports the claim.
Ive previously argued that not every untruth deserves to be branded with the L-word, because it implies intent and somebody can state an untruth without doing so knowingly. George W. Bush didnt lie when he said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, and Obama didnt lie when he said people who liked their current health insurance could keep it. They made careless statements that proved false (and they deserved much of the criticism they got).
But the current president of the United States lies. He lies in ways that no American politician ever has before. He has lied about among many other things Obamas birthplace, John F. Kennedys assassination, Sept. 11, the Iraq War, ISIS, NATO, military veterans, Mexican immigrants, Muslim immigrants, anti-Semitic attacks, the unemployment rate, the murder rate, the Electoral College, voter fraud and his groping of women.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/opinion/all-the-presidents-lies.html
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nytimes: All the President's Lies (Original Post)
spanone
Mar 2017
OP
Most of us did get to keep our doctors but Bush's WMD lie was a deliberate deception
wishstar
Mar 2017
#9
Skittles
(153,160 posts)1. BUSH INC *DID* LIE ABOUT WMD
THEY KNEW DAMN WELL THERE WAS NO WMD
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)3. His lie was believable
I guess that's different to the NY Times
Skittles
(153,160 posts)4. believable to IDIOTS
Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)2. Yeah, look at that contrast between Bush's lie and Obama's lie
And people still vote republican....
wishstar
(5,269 posts)9. Most of us did get to keep our doctors but Bush's WMD lie was a deliberate deception
cilla4progress
(24,728 posts)5. The question for me is
Why are people willing to be lied to? It's so obvious and repeated, no one can claim surprise with a straight face.
Obama didn't lie; it was wishful thinking and possibly careless.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)6. The size of crowds and the size of his very own Johnson....
Granny M
(1,395 posts)7. He lies are ridiculous.
They gain him nothing. They are easily disproven. He just does it because he is pathological, can't help himself. Maybe can't differentiate the true from the false in his orange head. Just stupid, pointless babbling lying.
wishstar
(5,269 posts)10. No amount of overwhelming evidence or facts deter him from his lying
Not sustainable for a President
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)11. Great editorial