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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:07 PM Mar 2017

Art of the Deal UPDATE: Freedom Caucus tells master debater Trump to go "F" himself



House Conservatives Remain Opposed To Trump’s Health Care Bill With Hours To Go
The deadline is near, but no deal has been struck.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trumps-bill_us_58d4085ae4b0f838c6307f45?

A last-minute attempt by President Donald Trump to corral conservative votes for his health care overhaul has fallen short.

The chairman of the House Freedom Caucus ― a band of conservative lawmakers who have opposed the bill ― said that “no deal” had been reached after a White House meeting on Thursday.

Should the Freedom Caucus continue to oppose the bill, its fate would be in serious jeopardy. House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) can afford to lose no more than 21 votes. And with conservatives opposed, the number of House members unwilling to back the bill looks to be well above that total.

“There aren’t enough votes as of 1:30 p.m.,” said the Freedom Caucus chair, Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.).
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Art of the Deal UPDATE: Freedom Caucus tells master debater Trump to go "F" himself (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2017 OP
Ruh Roh Raggy Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #1
The people of this country need to know WHY the Freedom Caucus opposes Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #2
I think that most people... Miles Archer Mar 2017 #4
The only way Trump supporters will wake up is two-fold mreilly Mar 2017 #7
I've shared this several times on DU, but... Miles Archer Mar 2017 #8
Uggh, he sounds fun at parties. mreilly Mar 2017 #9
My stupid cousin keeps saying the same dumb thing "If it doesn't affect me ...." womanofthehills Mar 2017 #11
truer words were never spoken renate Mar 2017 #12
I hope their waking up.... Bengus81 Mar 2017 #5
Yes mzteaze Mar 2017 #6
Bingo Johnny2X2X Mar 2017 #13
On another note C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #3
still not stingy enough. pansypoo53219 Mar 2017 #10

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
2. The people of this country need to know WHY the Freedom Caucus opposes
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:12 PM
Mar 2017

Because it does not do ENOUGH harm to citizens in need of healthcare, does not harm Obama legacy ENOUGH.

God dammit, they want to

K I L L

you, me, them, when in the FUCK will we start saying that on TV and across the dinner table?

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
4. I think that most people...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:19 PM
Mar 2017

...outside of places like DU, where people are politically aware and educate themselves daily on these matters...simply refuse to believe that something like this could happen.

Trump supporters are only recently, and S-L-O-W-L-Y, coming to the realization that they were sold a false bill of goods, and that Trump's definition of "helping them" is a mixture of lining his own pockets, getting a free, taxpayer-paid $3 million golf weekend 52 weeks a year, plus another $1 million a day to keep his wife ensconced at Trump Tower, and that's about it.

People are going to have to get hurt...really, really hurt, and in large numbers...by his policies, before this all becomes "dinner table conversation."

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
7. The only way Trump supporters will wake up is two-fold
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:43 PM
Mar 2017

1. They have to be directly harmed by Trump's policies. That's clear. They give zero shit about anyone else. He could round up and execute liberals via gas chambers and THEY WOULD CHEER. Guaranteed.

2. They have to believe the harm they suffered was by Trump. That's why he's screeching endlessly about fake news and never, ever, ever takes responsibility for anything. He knows as long as the rotten dummies blame someone else other than him he'll skate away without consequence.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. I've shared this several times on DU, but...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:07 PM
Mar 2017

...my brother in law, who says "Trump may become the greatest president of all time," also said "If it doesn't affect me personally, I don't care what he does."

He has no idea how close he is to being "affected personally," and he won't listen if you try to tell him. He tells me I listen to too much "fake news."

So I stopped trying to tell him.

 

mreilly

(2,120 posts)
9. Uggh, he sounds fun at parties.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:14 PM
Mar 2017

The fake news crap really irks me. It's nothing more than the equivalent of a toddler sticking his fingers in his ears, closing his eyes and chanting "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA. I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LA LA LA LA LA LA LA! I WIN!"

I can't decide whether they're more ignorant than cowardly or the other way around. Or maybe it's purely equal!

womanofthehills

(8,657 posts)
11. My stupid cousin keeps saying the same dumb thing "If it doesn't affect me ...."
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:17 PM
Mar 2017

they care so little for anyone but themselves - but it will affect them.

Bengus81

(6,927 posts)
5. I hope their waking up....
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:21 PM
Mar 2017

Many fully believe Rand Paul and those thugs oppose Trump and his AHCA because of the pain it would inflict on millions of people on ACA. FACTS are that in their opinion it doesn't do ENOUGH to inflict pain and DEATH.



Johnny2X2X

(18,968 posts)
13. Bingo
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 06:21 PM
Mar 2017

I wish the media would start calling them out for this. Trumpcare will kill people, but the Freedom Caucus wants it to kill more people. They aren't fighting for more, better, and less expensive care, they're fighting for less, worse, and more expensive care.

C_U_L8R

(44,983 posts)
3. On another note
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:15 PM
Mar 2017

What's with the alien head behind Trumpster.
Maybe they're here to take him back to Planet Orangeputz?

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